erpdude8 Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Alpha 5 of Gran Paradiso now available:http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a5/releasenotes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 SeaMonkey switched to the toolkit back-end on the trunk recently. That's extra incentive for me to get back to work. Just one more exam to go, and I'm free for two months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erpdude8 Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Gran Paradiso (Firefox 3) alpha 7 now available:http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a7/releasenotes/the next major version of Seamonkey (2.0) will also be using the Gecko 1.9 runtime. I may be testing the alpha versions of seamonkey 2 later this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpatrick Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Just out of curiosity. Did anyone get 3.0 to work on Windows 98se? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanbuto Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) Hi BenoitRen,any progress on your end? We are probably nearing Gecko 1.9 Beta stage soon, and the more delay, the less of a chance that Mozilla folks will provide help (at least that's my fear). Edited August 20, 2007 by ivanbuto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Nope, no progress, sorry. Exams keep bugging me, and I'm always distracted by other pet projects of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I was bored, so I figured I could continue with the documentation. I got updated on the state of things by the developer that offered help last time.Almost everything got its Win9x support code ripped out. At this point, the shim library idea that was proposed a year ago likely wouldn't do the trick. The way to go would be to make a Win9x-only build. To do this, I'd have to go through bonsai and revert the changes.The real work will be making Cairo, the new rendering front-end, compatible with Win9x. I have the impression that emulating the SetWorldTransform API would be crucial in doing this.I still haven't got room for my new PC to do all this on, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webworm98 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) I have been doing some reading.Is it possibly to use the windows xp application program interface in windows 9x?This way to fool firefox3 to install thinking it is xp, when it is really windows 9x?What got me thinking of this is if Axcel216 has a program that can replace windows 98 with the windows me shell without installing windows me it called 982se2mehttp://www.mdgx.com/ By using the program, he was able to install windows movie maker to run in windows 98se thinking it was windows me.I do not see why you can not do this with api.This program can also replace other windows 98se files with windows me files. My complaintI have at least a 10 year old computer. It is still working.It could be upgraded to xp pro but I would rather stick with windows 98se. Vista would not work on this computer.I never did like xp when I had it. That computer broke down after 1 year of service. Edited August 27, 2007 by webworm98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awergh Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 well the thing about 98se2me by mdgx on this forum is that 98se and me are of the same windows line where as xp is part of the nt line.the problem isnt fooling the installer to install that can be done fairly easy it is the apis that are important and they have to be implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analada Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 As it is probable that developing Firefox 3 for win98SE is going to be more difficult than originally envisaged, would it not be an idea to look into extending Firefox 2 as a parallel activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galahs Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 As it is probable that developing Firefox 3 for win98SE is going to be more difficult than originally envisaged, would it not be an idea to look into extending Firefox 2 as a parallel activity?My thoughts exactly What gains will we get from Firefox 3 that makes us really want it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanrs Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 As it is probable that developing Firefox 3 for win98SE is going to be more difficult than originally envisaged, would it not be an idea to look into extending Firefox 2 as a parallel activity?Honestly I think it would be a better idea to make a list of APIs Firefox 3 needs that are unavaliable in Windows 98, and then help Xeno86 implement them in KernelEx, so there would be no need to maintain a special Firefox version for Windows 98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analada Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 As it is probable that developing Firefox 3 for win98SE is going to be more difficult than originally envisaged, would it not be an idea to look into extending Firefox 2 as a parallel activity?My thoughts exactly What gains will we get from Firefox 3 that makes us really want it?There's a whole bunch of stuff scattered around on that topic. Here's one reasonably comprehensive link:http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a3/releasenotes/My thoughts are (roughly) as follows:1. Firefox 2 does everything one could wish for (at present).2. Assuming official support for it drops in 2009 (?) there's still at least nearly two years of using it left.3. Need to keep an eye on any emerging "must have" feature being brought into Firefox 3 and see if FF2 can be adapted to support it -- much like the approach to win98SE in this forum.4. Security updates...what happens when official support ends?5. Conclusion: If (3) and (4) can be dealt with/resolved adequately, there's no reason I can see why FF2 might not be used for a number of years yet.6. FF3 for win98/win98Se/ME is a great idea. But has anyone looked into the feasibility? Who would be responsible for security aspects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpatrick Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 (edited) 6. FF3 for win98/win98Se/ME is a great idea. But has anyone looked into the feasibility? Who would be responsible for security aspects?On a old system. Which would be a better bet use an insecure Firefox2 or an insecure IE?I would go with a insecure Firefox.Technically all browsers are not secure and neither is any operating system. No mater how many updates or patches are installed. Edited August 28, 2007 by gpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenoitRen Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 It's not about Firefox, it's about Gecko.Gecko.GECKO.Gecko 1.9 will bring a lot of new things to the table, the most important being a better rendering engine.Security vulnerabilities are in Gecko, Mozilla will be responsible for security, as always. This doesn't need to be a concern for the people who want to maintain a Win9x-compatible build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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