ripken204 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 i know that there have been alot of p2p users that have been sued for it but for bittorrent ive only noticed that the sites that let you download the torrent files have been shut down, no one sued. does anyone know if anyone has been sued for downloading files using bittorrent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thauzar Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I never heard of anyone being sued for downloading from a torrent, but keep it quiet, don't give them that kind of ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakatu Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I Think A Lot Of Bittorent sites now have username and password methods, And Invitation Methods, So To Make It More Difficult For The Would be suers ( Or Better Word Sewers )to get at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 but do you know if any1 has been sued yet for downloading torrents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 but do you know if any1 has been sued yet for downloading torrents?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>In order to be sued you'd need to commit a crime, and I as far as I know, using any sort of protocol online to transfer information isn't illegal. So I doubt there is such a thing as someone being sued for downloading files over the internet.And another thing, how can one person be sued for downloading whatever it is? Let's say you buy a warez copy of a product, who is breaking the law? You or the person who sold it to you?I have no knowledge of the law so whoever can answer these please do and enlighten us all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 well for p2p like kazaa(which sucks), there have been thousands of people that have been sued for dloading copyrighted material. this is in the usa so that probably why you wouldnt have known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomizer Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) well for p2p like kazaa(which sucks), there have been thousands of people that have been sued for dloading copyrighted material...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>protection...methlabs - peerguardianah, should also warn that this is NOT bullet-proof protection. like an anti-virus, it can only block what it knows about. Edited September 5, 2005 by atomizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I see... And how can one know if it is protected content before downloading? Yeah I know its the play dumb defense but it could happen, but setting that on the side.What kind of evidence can one present to prove that user X downloaded Y file from Z computer and what does exacly the US law state on that? If those files were exposed on purpose isn't that "creating" crime? Why should the person who downloads the file pay when the real responsible is the person who has it on their computer allowing it to be "shared"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 well thats what was happening with the torrent sites that host the torrent files, they are being blamed and being shut down. and im not sure if the people that were being sued actually we sued, i think that they lawsuits never went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 well thats what was happening with the torrent sites that host the torrent files, they are being blamed and being shut down. and im not sure if the people that were being sued actually we sued, i think that they lawsuits never went through.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think some of them went through, but like it has been said the RIAA has been using some really orthodox practices. This side market exists for a reason don't you all think? I mean if food was extremely pricy many would probably try to grow their own, the ones who knew and were able to would most likely try that.No company should be able to close down a website for any reason, only the police or government officials of the country where that site is hosted at should be able to do that, what I think that has been done by the RIAA is the purchase of torrent trackers giving us the impression that they were removed due to a legal fight in a public court room.I know this isn't a good argument but how can a software companies expect one person to pay 500 US dollars for a product like Photoshop when in a country like Brasil, a teacher will only earn 60 US dollars a month. I don't see it as stealing, everyone knows that it isn't the normal domestic user who pays or supports a software company, it's the big bucks companies who can afford to buy corporate licenses of their products, and those companies are usually in the US, Europe and Japan. Maybe that is one of the main reasons why China is where they are today, open source OSs are big there.Now music and movies... Well it's sort of the same thing, I download songs from the Cocteau Twins online, and why? When I went to the store to look for their CD it costed 40 euros, and movies... Well I don't download movies to burn from the Internet, when I do its because I can't find them anywhere else, but last I heard when a person goes to the movie, they will pay for a ticket and still be forced to see ads in the movies, people will obviously feel cheated, and then after paying for the ticket they are forced to see an ad saying no to piracy and movie downloading.Just some contradictory visions of the world, not everyone lives in countries with a big minimum wage, in Portugal the min. wage is around the 375 euros a month, thats a gross value, it's hardly enough to survive, no one in this country has a legit piece of software that they buy unless it comes with the computer, it is a question of culture and of income, it also depends on the person.Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomizer Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 ...No company should be able to close down a website for any reason, only the police or government officials of the country where that site is hosted at should be able to do that, what I think that has been done by the RIAA is the purchase of torrent trackers giving us the impression that they were removed due to a legal fight in a public court room...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>no offense at all, but i strongly disagree with that. i think it would be nice if there just ONE medium that were unregulated. freedom of information. to my knowledge, that's what the internet was all about before i even knew of its existence. freedom however has a price and that price is your decision to allow the posting of information like "how to build a bomb", or child pornography, or anything else you disagree with. it you want freedom, then you have to be willing to tolerate what it is you hate most. that's the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 freedom, ya right. the government takes away so much of our freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 @atomizerThat's why this is a forum, we can agree to dissagree, I just have a bit of problem understanding what you ment by freedom. If you're saying that the internet shouldn't be regulated then I agree one hundred percent, but it is regulated and by who we least expect, not the government but Internet companies, there is only one way for us to find out information quickly (Search Engines) and the companies who own them have the power to regulate what you can or can't find.The internet will not be free ever again, that stopped once it became comercial, if we want a free Internet we better start creating our own wireless world wide community like CB radio lol.@Ripken204You're right ripken204 the government takes away our freedom, if you have polital parties, books and songs which are considered illegal then where is the freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperHacker Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 when a person goes to the movie, they will pay for a ticket and still be forced to see ads in the movies, people will obviously feel cheated<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Agreed. Radio is free because it's paid for by advertising. Same with TV over the air. Why do I still have a constant, annoying barrage of ads in the cable TV I pay 50 bucks a month for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatefulsorrow Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 So true. I hate that I have to see so many ads when all I pay for is the show/movie. I had to sit through about 20 ads just from the company that provides my cable. I already pay for cable so why should I have to watch ads about that company?It's not like I'm gona pay them twice just to see the show once.I feel that this is the reason that piracy is so big. When you dl a program or a movie it is rare that you see the ads. In my optinion, no one wants to see ads for a movie or program that they have already paid for.It's one thing to advertise a different product or movie. It's the reason that a democratic society works in terms of economics. But it is a completely different, and unjust, thing to advertise about the product that has already been bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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