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Athlon XP 3200+ VS Athlon 64 3000+


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I just got a new Athlon 64 system to replace my old Athlon XP but which one is faster? does the 64bit make any difference? well I put it to the test with PCMark04 (v1.3.0)

Athlon XP system

Athlon XP 3200+ @ 2200Mhz (Aero 7+ heatsink with delta 8cm fan on top)

Asus Radeon X800 XT PE AGP (Omega 2.6.25a) Arctic Cooler

2GB of DDR400 (4x 512MB) - MATRIX

2x 80GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache Striped Boot! on VIA SATA

Asus A7V880 (Bios v1.08, Dual Channel)

Levicom 420Watts

Athlon 64 3000+ system

Athlon 64 3000+ @ 1809Mhz

MSI Radeon X700 Pro PCIe

2GB of DDR400 (4x 512MB) - Elixir

2x 160GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache Striped Boot! on SI3114

2x 160GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache Mirror on NF4

2x 300GB Maxtor D/max 10 7200RPM 16MB Cache Striped on NF4

MSI Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Bios v1.40, Dual Channel) - SLi, Why bother? sorry I don't like NV GFX Cards, HL2 ALL THE WAY!

TT PurePower 680Watt

Athlon 64 4000+ system

Athlon 64 4000+ @ 2400Mhz - Cool & Quite Enabled & Minimal Power Management

MSI Radeon X700 Pro PCIe

2GB of DDR400 (2x 1024MB)

2x 160GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache Striped Boot! on SI3114

2x 160GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache Mirror on NF4

2x 300GB Maxtor D/max 10 7200RPM 16MB Cache Striped on NF4

MSI Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Bios v1.40, Dual Channel)

TT PurePower 680Watt

---NEW---

Sempron 64 system

Sempron 3000+ @ 1800Mhz (Stock Cooler)

Asus Radeon X800 XT PE AGP (ATI CCC 6.2 set to Optimal Performance) Arctic Cooler

2GB of DDR400 (4x 512MB) - Elixir

1x 80GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache boot! on SiS 965L

Asus A7S-MX (Bios v1.014, Single Channel Memory)

LINNCO Model HL-300K...not sure on Wattage :blink:

acer Aspire 5102WMLi

Turon64 X2 TL50 @ 1.6Ghz x2

acer 'Navarro' with xpress 1100 (CPU-Z 1.38 reports it as Xpress 200)

1GB of DDR2-4300 (1GB - Single Channel for the time being)

1x 120GB Hitachi 5400RPM 8MB Cache Boot

acer 'Navarro' (Bios 2.60, Single Channel Memory)

PCMark04 Settings

Test = All

Other open apps

NOD32 2.50.19

ActiveSync 4.0.0

DAEMON Manager 3.47

Results

Athlon XP system

OverAll = 3814

CPU = 3581

Mem = 2299

GFX = 8233

HDD = 5034

Athlon 64 3000+ system

OverAll = 3707

CPU = 3438

Mem = 3777

GFX = 5006

HDD = 5707

Athlon 64 4000+ system

OverAll = 4526

CPU = 4019

Mem = 4638

GFX = 4370

HDD = 5280

Sempron 64 system

-----NOTE-----

This system is NOT setup the same dure to it being alot newer aswell as verious bits of software being updated..IE NOD32 2.50.25, Daemon Tools v4.03, .NET Framework v2.0....ATi CCC Drivers...diffrent reg tweaks..or the lack of.

The boot drive is not a Striped

--END-NOTE--

OverAll = 3663

CPU = 3332

Mem = 3332 <-- beats the AthlonXP 3200+ running DDR400 Dual Channel....while only having DDR400 Single Channel

GFX = 7679

HDD = 4511 <-- NOT Striped, single drive

New laptop

Turon64 X2 TL50 acer laptop

OverAll = 3958

CPU = 4262

Mem = 3397 <-- beats the AthlonXP & Sempron64, see what it can do with Dual Channel running on 667Mhz (DDR2-6400)

GFX = 1192 <-- Xpress 1100 around the same as my old laptop with a Radeon Mobility 9000 Pro 64MB

HDD = 3471

My thoughts on my new system

If the Athlon 64 was a 3200+ it would have between the Athlon XP in everything but GFX but that figures seeing it was X700-Pro PCIe VS X800-XT-PE AGP.

The NForce4 currently help the Athlon 64 on its way when it comes to memory and HDD RAID

My Athlon 64 computer is not for gaming, the Athlon XP 3200+ has that position now replacing my Athlon XP 2800+ mini pc which had a Radeon 9600 Pro, 1GB DDR400, 185GB Hitachi 7200 8cache

Now I have a computer that has a MASSIVE amount of potential (64-4000, FX55, FX57?)for the future instead of a MAX out Athlon XP system :thumbup

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The Athlon 64 is much better for handling multitasking meaning that if you do several things at the same time, Athlon 64 will win as it's 64-bit. Gaming performance is a completely another thing as the graphic card makes the big difference here. Athlon 64 isn't the best way to go when gaming but, since your CPU is at such a high speed compared to the Athlon XP I would most certainly choose 64.

Of course, I assume that you already use XP 64-bit version which is needed to assure maximum performance.

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i personally preffer the 32bits setup, the cheapest.

i've a 3000+ (2,3ghz). in sandra 2k5, results show a better perfomance than for example a p4 3,2ghz extreme edition.

at the moment there's no program that can take full advantage of a 64bits processor.

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yeah, that's true except win 64 of course :). And that on the other hand, can be pretty nice. I mean, to have 64 bit support when you to several things simulanously in windows. I agree with you SiMoNsAyS, that XP is so much cheaper. I also have a Athlon XP (2400+) and it's great and so cheap but, if you compare those systems that codejunkie was telling us about, 32-bit don't stand a chance in "combat" :D When it comes to P4, Athlon XP owns those CPU's.

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Exactly, that's what I mean. I didn't mean that it's faster than the XP, just that It's pretty close and besides, it's a 64 which means that a 1800 mhz is most certainly faster than a 32-bit running at 2200.

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Also, think about SSE3 witch comes with a new cored AMD 64 (Venice and up). Soon there will be Semprons with it (or they are already out? :blink:;) ). PCI-E isn´t faster then AGP, it seems to be a bit slower in Benchmarks...

But replacing a 2800+ with a 3200+, I would wait a few months more... :yes:

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  • 8 months later...

I have recently built a new AMD64 mechine...this time in a Micro ATX case...man what a squize!

Sempron 64 system

Sempron 3000+ @ 1800Mhz (Stock Cooler)

Asus Radeon X800 XT PE AGP (ATI CCC 6.2 set to Optimal Performance) Arctic Cooler

512MB of DDR333 CL2.5 (1x 512MB) - TwinMos

1x 80GB Maxtor D/max 9 7200RPM 8MB Cache

Asus A7S-MX (Bios v1.014, Single Channel Memory)

LINNCO Model HL-300K...not sure on Wattage :blink:

Sempron 64 system

OverAll = 3619

CPU = 3326

Mem = 2854

GFX = 7644

HDD = 4506

I'd try it with better memory but I cant get to the sockets verywell there hidden under the DVD-RW :wacko: .... Need some more PC3200 Elixir DDR SDRAM... I have pulled all the Matrix DDR400 from my Athlon XP and replaced it with half the memory from the Athlon64 (Elixir DDR400)...not realy tested it much but was a little unstable before

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64-bit isn't really the deciding factor here, as software is still predominantly 32-bit. My opinion is that 32-bits is going to stay for a long time, since only large mainframes and supercomputers have 64-bit data widths. Many other supercomputers are still 32-bit.

The deciding factor is how efficiently the CPU processes instructions. It's slightly better on the Ath64, that's why it runs at a lower clock speed and can still compete closely with the AthXP.

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