Major WinXP Sharing Issue / Annoyance

**bilemke** · June 29, 2005

I installed my XP with RyanVM's hotfixes and i still have the same problem.
So did kb895900 replace kb885250? Am i suppose to uninstall kb895900 now?
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I wouldnt say 895900 replaces 885250 yet.. It might as it contains newer versions of most if not all the files in 885250. But, 895900 is a hotfix designed to fix the problems resulting from the install of the 885250 fix. 885250 is an official supported fix.. 895900 is a hotfix to solve the issues some people have had with win9x shares accessed by 2k/xp machines.

I would install 885250, as windows update suggest, and then 895900 if you have prblems getting to files shared on win 9x based machines.

Again, I can not confirm or denie that the hotfix is even effective for sure as I do not use any 9x machines at all for sharing or every day use. I looked for it for the sake that customers of the business I work for may need it in the future if they still use win 9x mixed with 2k/xp in their work place.

Edited June 29, 2005 by bilemke

**Pat57** · June 29, 2005

Hi,

just to confirm, my host PC is running XP pro SP2.

The clients are running XP pro and home SP2 and all the ones that had the hotfix on it KB885250 had issues accessing some sub folders or files on the shared drives. Always the same files.

I did remove the fix on each of the clients and the problem is gone. I did this 3 times yesterday. I also reinstalled the fix on one unit and the problem was back again. I've disabled the automatic updates and do a manual update every second week (I disable this specific update until I'm sure there is a new update that fixes this problem.)

Did someone else try to just remove the hotfix?

**earthsfate** · June 29, 2005

For people who used RyanVM, only kb895900 was installed. kb885250 was considered "obsolete".

How do i uninstall kb885250?

**bilemke** · June 29, 2005

Hi,
just to confirm, my host PC is running XP pro SP2.
The clients are running XP pro and home SP2 and all the ones that had the hotfix on it KB885250 had issues accessing some sub folders or files on the shared drives. Always the same files.
I did remove the fix on each of the clients and the problem is gone. I did this 3 times yesterday. I also reinstalled the fix on one unit and the problem was back again. I've disabled the automatic updates and do a manual update every second week (I disable this specific update until I'm sure there is a new update that fixes this problem.)
Did someone else try to just remove the hotfix?
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So it does have a problem with non-9x systems too then.. Interesting.

For people who used RyanVM, only kb895900 was installed. kb885250 was considered "obsolete".
How do i uninstall kb885250?
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Not sure I would call it obsolete.. But run this file (in invisible folder under windows dir) to remove it.

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB885250$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

Oops.. didnt notice you used ryans pack and integrated it.. Nope.. No uninstall.. Just install the newer hotfix and it should replace the other files.

Edited June 30, 2005 by bilemke

**Cartoonite** · June 30, 2005

For people who used RyanVM, only kb895900 was installed. kb885250 was considered "obsolete".
How do i uninstall kb885250?
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You would have to check with Ryan on this. However, my best guess is that you can't. My understanding of Ryan's update packs is that they don't install the hotfixes. Rather, the fixes are actually integrated into the source files on the CD. This, I believe, would make uninstalling them impossible. Do a check in your Add/Remove Programs with the checkbox for Show Updates checked. Any updates installed via Ryan's pack will not be listed. Any that have been installed since the OS was installed with Ryan's pack will be.

**Blam-O!** · June 30, 2005

This topic is full of very interesting solutions and work arounds....

But I didn't see this one: (please don't flame me if I am wrong )

I too have had issues with WinXP Pro and Home sharring files and folders over a network. Even after checking everything 6 times, restarting all the PC's on the network, and even tried disabling and then re-enable the network, .... all without luck.

But this Quick Fix worked for me, and I tested it at work a few times too. Both have fixed the problem at Home and Work!!

Computer Info: (just in case)

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- I have 3 PC's linked together via a NetGear Firewall/Rounter using all CAT6 hardware.

- 2 PC's are WinXP Pro SP2 + current updates (the first PC has Win2003 Server). Also all 3 PC's have a software firewall as well.... can't be to shur these days. lol

(all 3 PC's have multiple user accounts with different permissions for each)

The Problem:

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The server has all the sharred files and folders; games, music, back up files, ect....

The other two PC's connect to the server to play music, copy over files and what not depending on the users right.

The server has all the info right? Lets say PC 1 is the server. Well PC 2 happens to get currpt or someone does a really stupid thing forcing me to re-ghost that PC. After ghost is finished and windows boots up again, that PC can no longer access the Server???? What the *&^$**$T*% is up with that. When I made the Ghost Images of each PC, all settings where done correctly and fully functional, including the network settings and security for each user. But know it does not work? The PC I just ghosted sees that a server has files and folders to share, but has no access to them.??? this is a glitch in Windows if you ask me.

The Quick Fix:

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- Log into the server. (PC1)

- Go to "sharring and security...." on one of your shared folders.

- Un-share the folder completely.

- Log Off. Then Log On.

- Go back to the folder you just Un-shared, and simply "share it" agian the way you had it before.

- Log Off. Then Log On once more.

* Works everytime for me.!!!!!

Hope this helps

my 2 cents worth, if worth anything....

**durex** · June 30, 2005

For people who used RyanVM, only kb895900 was installed. kb885250 was considered "obsolete".
How do i uninstall kb885250?
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You would have to check with Ryan on this. However, my best guess is that you can't. My understanding of Ryan's update packs is that they don't install the hotfixes. Rather, the fixes are actually integrated into the source files on the CD. This, I believe, would make uninstalling them impossible. Do a check in your Add/Remove Programs with the checkbox for Show Updates checked. Any updates installed via Ryan's pack will not be listed. Any that have been installed since the OS was installed with Ryan's pack will be.
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Holy christ... I found this solution (removing that kb hotfix) as one of my 1st searches, before even starting this thread! but because I didnt see it under my add/remove progs I figured it didnt apply to me (I almost even referenced it in my 1st post, but again, didnt think it applied to this situation)

I use the RyanVM pack and just didnt even put 2 and 2 together to think that the hotfixes integrated from his pack wouldnt show up there. dammit!

So someone clear this up for me... if I used the RyanVM pack is there a hotfix that needs to be removed or since he didnt actually include the kb885250 hotfix, my problem something entirely different.

Thanks... and hopefully we're making some headway on this.

**Pat57** · June 30, 2005

Hi Folks,

Did a clean install with RyanVM pack and got the same problem as with the hotfix, so something is still not right.

If someone has the kb895900 fix I would like to try and reinstall it over kb885250 and see if it really fixes the issue.

From what I did read kb895900 fixes kb885250 if installed but to my understanding kb895900 in not included in the RyanVM pack?

Can someone confirm?

**Pat57** · June 30, 2005

Theses are the files included in the kb885250 hotfix

The English version of this security update has the file attributes that are listed in the following table. The dates and times for these files are listed in coordinated universal time (UTC). When you view the file information, it is converted to local time. To find the difference between UTC and local time, use the Time Zone tab in the Date and Time tool in Control Panel.

Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1, Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, Windows XP Media Center Edition, Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2, Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, and Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005:

File Name Version Date Time Size Folder

Cscdll.dll

5.1.2600.1599

28-Oct-2004