MCT Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 i wonder..is oembios needed if u run a program that uses your hardware footprint for an activation code? would this still work ok?
duminas Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Hey guys, mpatton posted this same question on the mp3car forums and I posted one solution that may interest you guys. Go here: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=37724 It's how to use the minlogon component from XP embedded. Just like EWF, it may not be for everyone, but at least it gets rid of this freaking 12.5MB file.Later,FritoNow this could be really kewl !!! I wish that site would work for me; I can't get any sort of response from it.Could someone quote the relevant post off of their board, please?
bigman1 Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Well I tested it out and it's working without a problem now
Jeremy Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 It mentioned faster boot time. Mine is 17 seconds.
SFiorito Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 woah!!! 17 seconds?? compared to what beforehand?? ****, i'm stuck with this s***ty old drive (my 2.5" drive died so i'm using an old maxtor) so I can't really get a feel for how much faster it is.
Jeremy Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Well, I can't remember what my boot time was under a normal XP install. Probably 40+ seconds. I don't have a RAID setup or anything. I just use nLite and disable Services. That's all. 17 seconds.
MCT Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 what files r u guys deleting? the 4 oemfiles in i386 on cd?& what entries r u removing from where
iwod Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Has anybody try this on a Productive system?Does it actually work? And no confilicts with other software?Will you still have to logon like you do in WinXP.Honestly this sounds really interesting, because not only you get rid off a 12.5 Mb file. We also get faster startup time.
Acheron Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Well, just removing the files will disallow you to login again You need some XP Embedded components to do the trickEDIT Just tested it:+Startup time improvedNo more user profilesget rid of the oembios files-No hibernationNo standby
minigun Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 i got improved shutdown time too (its only tested in vmware... but it took like 1-2second from hitting the shutdown button) but i wonder what the security issuse of this would be?? would the system be less secure or more
nuhi Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 While i was testing this oem thingy it corrupted activation in many ways...so drop the subject even it is big and we want to see it out.Sorry...but i want to keep this proggy as legal as possible.
Jeremy Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 Nuhi, that is really unfair just to blow our effort-stressed attempts out of the water like that. I don't even DO activation on my system and neither do Corporate users. It gets rid of several things and makes things faster. Why would THIS particular thing make nLite illegal??? I see no difference between this and when someone posts about codecs not working for WMP because nLite "did something not quite right somewhere"...so then things get debugged and you fix things just like you fixed the startup lag from removed Event Log Service. So what gives?PS: There are already like half a dozen components in nLite that make it so you can't activate, so I see absolutely no difference with this...
Acheron Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 By using XP embedded components on an Windows XP installation you need to have an XP embedded license. This tweak isn't necessary for nLite, but meaby someone knows how to manually adjust the unattended cd to have minlogon used also during installation, so all software is installed on the SYSTEM account B) Please let me know
SFiorito Posted December 5, 2004 Posted December 5, 2004 The only reason I'm looking at all these XPe components is for my carpc system, that's why I say that stuff like EWF and minlogon might not be of interest for nlite users that just want to slim their XP installs. I don't think I'd use minlogon for my desktop. A lot of us are using nlite for our car systems. MinLogon and EWF give us more choices for what media to install to (flash, cd, etc.), decrease footprint, and improve cold boot performance. I'm not looking to try and circumvent MSFT's activation features.On a side note, someone above mentioned that hibernate and standby don't work with minlogon. That's incorrect. They in fact do work with minlogon from XPe SP2. If it's not working for you make sure you got the right minlogon. I've tested both without a problem.
iwod Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Can any body tell me the disadvantage of Minlogon?SO far we know a lot of Adv ...... but no problem / disadv has been said
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