about MSJVM... it's not installed together with xpsp2 so... can i use Sun Java as a replacement or it's stupid?

so as a conclusion i must think if i want a full xp i need to add to sp2:

Journal Viewer

DotNet Framework 1.1

HighMAT

Sun Java

*DX9c WM9 and Messenger 4.7 are included, aren't they?

about MSJVM... it's not installed together with xpsp2 so... can i use Sun Java as a replacement or it's stupid?

so as a conclusion i must think if i want a full xp i need to add to sp2:

Journal Viewer

DotNet Framework 1.1

HighMAT

Sun Java

*DX9c WM9 and Messenger 4.7 are included, aren't they?

you can, it's more secure and stuff, but runs awfully slow on both my Celeron 2.0 GHz self-assembled machine and a 733MHz P3 Dell OptiPlex GX110.

Where are you guys able to get SP2 from? i'm searching all over and no luck, only the beta site, but i have no access to that.

Where are you guys able to get SP2 from? i'm searching all over and no luck, only the beta site, but i have no access to that.

It will be on Microsoft's Download servers tomorrow, wait till then

Thanks for clearing that up, sandman_qc. To re-iterate, the only recomended updates Windows Update shows for me (all non-critical)  are:

Journal Viewer

DotNet Framework 1.1

HighMAT

np man!

Same as GreenMachine... Only these 3 show-up. Windows Messenger WILL appear if you have it disable during install...

Where are you guys able to get SP2 from? i'm searching all over and no luck, only the beta site, but i have no access to that.

It will be on Microsoft's Download servers tomorrow, wait till then

A certain someone was kind enough to send it to me

maybe i'm asking a stupid question but... why they didn't include updates like HighMAT Framework or Journal Viewer?? are they "unsecure"??

Where are you guys able to get SP2 from? i'm searching all over and no luck, only the beta site, but i have no access to that.

It will be on Microsoft's Download servers tomorrow, wait till then

A certain someone was kind enough to send it to me

maybe i'm asking a stupid question but... why they didn't include updates like HighMAT Framework or Journal Viewer?? are they "unsecure"??

they're recommended updates, and not really considered part of the OS.

why they didn't include updates like HighMAT Framework or Journal Viewer??

they're recommended updates, and not really considered part of the OS.

Not part of the OS, like .net framework?

Well!  I did a clean install with my new unattended SP2 cd and the only fixes available at windowsupadte were these 4 (all in Optionnal):

-Microsoft Windows Journal Viewer

-Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1

-Windows Messenger 4.7

-Update for Windows XP HighMAT Support in CD Writing Wizard (KB831240)

Note that my cd didnd't contained ANY hotfixes (type 1 and 2)... I emptied the folders before burning the ISO just to see how many I would get at windowsupdate.

So there you have it.  An unattended SP2 cd containing NO hotfixes whatsoever should give you the same results.

I have Slipstreamed SP2 on my unattended and cleaned up my svcpack.inf to load .net & highmat. But windows update still shows them. Is there a different method needed

My svcpack.inf

[Version]

Signature="$Windows NT$"

MajorVersion=5

MinorVersion=2

BuildNumber=2600

[setupData]

CatalogSubDir="\i386\svcpack"

[setupHotfixesToRun]

DOTNETFX.EXE /Q:A /R:N

HMTCDW~1.EXE /QN

QCHAIN.EXE

[ProductCatalogsToInstall]

Thanks

Are you guys sure that DiectX9c is included in SP2? Also I myself don't understand why Microsoft did not include ,NET Framework and Journal Viewer in SP2.

Are you guys sure that DiectX9c is included in SP2?

Yes!

Are you guys sure that DirectX9c is included in SP2?

Yessir!!!!

In fact, we are also sure WMP9, and MovieMaker 2.1 are included.

I don't understand why Microsoft did not include .NET Framework and Journal Viewer in SP2.

I don't know that reason for sure, but it might have something to do with the fact that not everybody who uses XP (Svr2k3 has .NET integrated) has a necessity for those - and those who do, can download/install it themselves.

I have Slipstreamed SP2 on my unattended and cleaned up my svcpack.inf to load .net & highmat. But windows update still shows them. Is there a different method needed

My svcpack.inf

[Version]

Signature="$Windows NT$"

MajorVersion=5

MinorVersion=2

BuildNumber=2600

It should be MinorVersion=1