dazkrlauwste Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Firefox Optimized is da best!!! [url="http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/firefox.htm"]http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/firefox.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un4given1 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 [quote]I don't give a s*** what anyone else picks, unless they choose it for reasons that can't be justifiable.[/quote] I understand the forum "beeps" out a lot... but be a little more careful in your word choice. You say you don't care and it's everyone's preference... yet when I posted a simple 1 line post about it you woulnd't let that be my choice. Everything I said was true... IE opens almost instantly, and Firefox takes 3-5 seconds. You coudln't accept that as my "preference" and had to chime in with the normal arrogance that usually follows you "I hate MS" kids. My preference is IE, end of story. You may gladly voice what you would like to tell me to try to make me switch, but don't be so tactless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Un4given1, I don't swear very often on the forums and when I do, it gets *'d out so I am not worrying over my choice of words at all. I really don't care if you use IE, but IMHO if you or anyone else doesn't like Firefox primarily because it takes those precious seconds to open, that is just sad to me. I assumed it was your primary reason because its what you mention in your one line statement. You didn't say anything about how you've used it for years and its never given you trouble and you're happy about it. You just went to what you think is the negative side of Firefox. If you had of said that, I wouldn't have gone further in the debate. It's usually silly to debate certain people because regardless of what anyone says, they won't change. I don't want you to change, thus not caring what you use for browsing. I use Firefox and I love it and can't wait for v1.5 and for IE's market share to from 87% to 86% and so forth. You use IE and you're sticking with it. The world continues to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunil Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 [quote name='Jeremy' date='Mar 17 2005, 02:51 AM']Nanaki, I take offense to the "good sense" remark you made. Firefox is a great browser. It has its flaws and that why we have version updates. Now, Sunil, your comments really p*** me off. Firefox bloated??? ROTFLMAO IE is bloated. Where was that screenshot I found on these forums that showed 80% of the IE window consumed by useless spyware toolbars and 114000+ had been detected? Take that and compare it to Firefox with the toolbars customized to have only menu names and address bar. One colum compared to what... 25 of various column widths? And yes, I know this is only interface-related. Firefox is not bloated. You can have as many or as little plugins and you want and the configurations are very straight forward. And the whole "role reversal" comment, as far as that goes, under those cimcumstances, people would be saying "Hail IE" instead of "Hail Firefox or Opera". Simple as that. It's best not to think about it, though, it's too weird. And the whole thing about it being tied into the system, well I use nLite and remove Internet Explorer and it hasn't affected my computing abilities at all. There will be some people who use the excuse of system-integration to backup their preference for IE. Then you have people like me who go the next step and actually find out... IE sucks baby. I feel very sorry for anyone who uses IE. The POS hasn't had an update in what... 4 years? [right][post="289276"][/post][/right][/quote] Now, i said it was only my view i meant no offence.. And by saying bloated i was speaking about the numerous plugins that i am sure that you use, all those little things you add USE RAM. If you use 10 plugins at 10 megs ram each... do the math.. what makes it so different.. as you have surely seen that firefox is not immune, the end user is the "catalyst" behind spyware, the user makes the choice of what he she does on the internet... How long have you used ie, and how long have you used FireFox.. that is my question to you.. Sunil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 [quote name='Sunil' date='Mar 18 2005, 10:33 AM']Now, i said it was only my view i meant no offence.. And by saying bloated i was speaking about the numerous plugins that i am sure that you use, all those little things you add USE RAM. If you use 10 plugins at 10 megs ram each... do the math.. what makes it so different.. as you have surely seen that firefox is not immune, the end user is the "catalyst" behind spyware, the user makes the choice of what he she does on the internet... How long have you used ie, and how long have you used FireFox.. that is my question to you.. Sunil [right][post="290006"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] You are sure I use a dozen plugins, eh? I use 2. Thanks for your absolute certainty, congratulations, you're a psychic. One thing I know about Internet Security is that today's spyware is coded to attack a particular vulnerability in IE and that's why Firefox and Opera and many others may seem more secure. However, in the time that it takes a minority of coded spyware to attack something in one of those browsers, I think they will have a pretty strong wall to fend off whatever tries to attack them. I know the user makes the choices, please continue to state the obvious. I can take IE and Firefox and go to 10 sites that I know will infect with hijackers and spyware. If I use IE and scan with Ad-Aware and HijackThis, I will get a lengthy list of infections. If I do it with Firefox... [b]ZERO![/b] How do I know? I've done it, that's how. I've used PCs for 10 years. I haven't used Firefox for a year yet, so that says it all right there. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunil Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 [quote][b]Jeremy[/b] You are sure I use a dozen plugins, eh? I use 2. Thanks for your absolute certainty, congratulations, you're a psychic. One thing I know about Internet Security is that today's spyware is coded to attack a particular vulnerability in IE and that's why Firefox and Opera and many others may seem more secure. However, in the time that it takes a minority of coded spyware to attack something in one of those browsers, I think they will have a pretty strong wall to fend off whatever tries to attack them. I know the user makes the choices, please continue to state the obvious. I can take IE and Firefox and go to 10 sites that I know will infect with hijackers and spyware. If I use IE and scan with Ad-Aware and HijackThis, I will get a lengthy list of infections. If I do it with Firefox... [b]ZERO![/b] How do I know? I've done it, that's how. I've used PCs for 10 years. I haven't used Firefox for a year yet, so that says it all right there. Anything else?[/quote] You fail to realise what using it for 1 year says. What happened to IE in 10 years that it has been around? Im sure you have seen the front page, [url="http://msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=12352"]http://msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=12352[/url] Read it well and absorb it, because it will get worse before it gets better, as it has with IE in my view, you now have toolsets that help prevent spyware and resources that educate the end user... Im sry but to praise something that is now coming into childhood just isnt worth it, let it achieve adulthood and then give it its many worthy praises... Sunil oh and btw, if you would give me the list of those ten sites, i would really appreciate it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un4given1 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Good post Sunil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 You guys are getting on my nerves. In the many months of my usage of Firefox, I have only gotten 1 pop-up. As for websites, just go to any place that offers cracks to software or go to some porn site that redirects and opens a chain of new windows. You'll be reformatting soon afterwards. If I wanted to I could do that with Firefox and be untouched as I was before I opened the browser. You guys read Google News and all the headlines saying how Firefox is blowing IE out of the water? I'm sick and tired and defending my choice over yours. Use IE. I don't care. No more browser politics. Stop bugging me for some resolution. None of us will change our minds. Have a great day. Oh, Sunil, just like un4given1 says, grrreat post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunil Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 [quote name='Jeremy' date='Mar 19 2005, 02:55 PM']You guys are getting on my nerves. In the many months of my usage of Firefox, I have only gotten 1 pop-up. As for websites, just go to any place that offers cracks to software or go to some porn site that redirects and opens a chain of new windows. You'll be reformatting soon afterwards. If I wanted to I could do that with Firefox and be untouched as I was before I opened the browser. You guys read Google News and all the headlines saying how Firefox is blowing IE out of the water? I'm sick and tired and defending my choice over yours. Use IE. I don't care. No more browser politics. Stop bugging me for some resolution. None of us will change our minds. Have a great day. Oh, Sunil, just like un4given1 says, grrreat post. [right][post="290567"][/post][/right][/quote] Well, it was never my view to turn it into a debate of some sorts, just to make a point. Sunil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Point: Each person has his/her own preferred browser. End of story. Cheers, all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxian Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yes, as Jeremy said, everyone has their preferences... I think that's what makes this a good place to come to to ask questions about software. There are a lot of people who can help out. When I decided to give Opera a try, there were a couple of very small things that I wanted to know about, and several people helped me out. I've been using Opera 8 beta for a while now, and it's my favorite so far. I showed Maxthon (what I was using before I switched to Opera) to my parents, and they absolutely loved it. Nothing radically different, and a few nice features added. When I showed them Opera, they looked at me in disgust (well, not really, but you get what I mean). I think I'll give Firefox another try on my desktop next weekend when I get it hooked up to the internet. We'll see how things go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macstorm Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 [quote name='Jeremy' date='Mar 19 2005, 07:44 PM']Point: Each person has his/her own preferred browser. End of story. Cheers, all. [right][post="290688"][/post][/right][/quote] Yep, u keep using FF.. IE here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 [url="http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=159905629"]IE Security VS Firefox Security[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 [url="http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=159906206"]Another Article About IE Security VS Firefox Security[/url] [i]"...IE would always have more bugs because it was tied so tightly to Windows. "The security of any browser is irrelevant if it is part of the operating system,"[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_horton Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 i like the kids browser at nickeleon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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