Number of topic views - 0

[AstroSkipper]

10 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

That's what it is like in a country that lives and dies by "free speech".

Once again, you're completely wrong. Your cited "free speech" has not existed among you for quite some time.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

You might be right!

All that "free speech" really does here in the USA is make it very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[AstroSkipper]

On 12/24/2025 at 1:50 PM, schwups said:

The counter has not been working since maintenance in October. Perhaps simply disabled.

To be finally on topic again I would like to know why the counting of topic views has no longer been working. @Tripredacus Was it disabled intentionally? Or accidentally? Or is it a forum software bug? 

[Monroe]

8 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

To be finally on topic again I would like to know why the counting of topic views has no longer been working. @Tripredacus Was it disabled intentionally? Or accidentally? Or is it a forum software bug? 

It's my own personal opinion that it was done intentionally so D.Draker's name and maybe a few others, would drop off the 'Popular Contributors' list in time ... which finally happened in the last three weeks, or so. I actually miss his name no longer on the list ... it was interesting watching his 'contributor count' go up and down.

I hope I am wrong about the 'topic views' ... but since October nothing, lots of '0s' starting to show up.

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[NotHereToPlayGames]

I am a "numbers person", a bit of a geek.

TOPIC VIEWS, read counts, contribution counts, "reputation" - if we are not going to make them accurate and actually mean something to the reader, we are better off making them all zeroes.

Yes, I am being the "thorn in the side" here, I see that.  The TRUTH can be a thorn sometimes!

To be perfectly honest and fair, @AstroSkipper *deserves* the "rep" that he was CARRIED ALONG during our Era of Scheming.

But the other TWO that were "recipients" of this SCHEME ???  We all know that answer!  Most of us are not blindsided by our own "favoritism".

 

I'll shut up now...  But only "for now"...  As @Monroe has pointed out, things HAVE improved in the last three weeks or so.

And maybe, JUST MAYBE, it *TOOK* the forum showing "zero topic views" to ACHIEVE the ***FAKE*** numbers not going up and up and up every single day.

 

edit:  proper "tags" to member names to mathematically count towards their "rep"

Edited yesterday at 07:44 AM by NotHereToPlayGames

[Tripredacus]

Reputation count doesn't mean anything, it is just a button to click if you want. The only times such a system actually works is when positive rep is tied to something meaningful, like a question/answer system or feedback on sales. 

Topic views being 0 is certainly a bug. That has never been a setting for any version of IPS or any other forum software I've ever used. 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

If it doesn't mean anything, then why even display it?

And would the membership herein start a new thread entitled "rep count missing"?

 

Sure, "I'll shut up now".

Edited 23 hours ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Here is a forum (first found via Google Search) that indicates this bug has been around since last March.

https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/482438-view-counts-missing-in-multiple-layouts-and-widgets/

Maybe that narrows it down for us.

[Karla Sleutel]

4 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

If it doesn't mean anything, then why even display it?

It's a way to say thank you! Or you prefer paypal?

@NotHereToPlayGames, I've examined your profile for the last two years. After D.Draker disappeared. you barely posted for a year, and I understand you, we all were, still are, and will be in a depression.

But the year before that, also rather weak posting, not to count the endless off-topic posts filled with displeasure and disgust about other members' popularity, what's the explanation for that?

A friendly advice, jealousy isn't a good thing, start making contributions to MSFN, you will get the feedback!

As of now. you will still have zero views on your topics, even if they fix the counter. Take a look, while I was on holidays, D.Draker got another thousand of views, all despite being absent!

Take example.

 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, Karla Sleutel said:

D.Draker got another thousand of views, all despite being absent!

Fake a$$ b&llsh#t.  Rigged b&llsh#t.  "Stop the madness!"

[Karla Sleutel]

2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Fake a$$ b&llsh#t.  Rigged b&llsh#t.  "Stop the madness!"

Rigged? It's not election. Explain how it's "rigged" and why all those thousands of people create those views! Just for the sake of what? Especially if we assume D.Draker could care less, he's not currently present.

And I agree with Monroe. 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

It's not rocket science.  The "views" on MSFN are cheated, rigged, manipulated.  Meaningless, as even our mods point out.

I agree with YOU, they are there for us members to read, they are supposed to tell us something.  I'm telling you that they are *FAKE*.

We have people (they know who they are) that visit the "profile" page to keep track of how many DECADES they have to go back to post a "like" they haven't yet posted.

I can do the same.  Four people live in this house.  It isn't against forum rules for those other three people to register an account here and start viewing my profile daily and rack up their daily limit of "likes".

 

Here, I'll show you.

100+ "views" in less than two minutes of my time.  Just visit and refresh the page a few times.  Notice that the count jumps TWO INCREMENTS for every ONE refresh.

On a profile who is no longer an active member because he cannot log in due to email now required.

"Auto Refresh" scripts are a piece of cake.  I can "view" my profile once per minute for my 6hrs of sleep and return to a computer that "viewed" my profile FOUR THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED TWENTY times.

Well, not my profile (I disable the recent visitors), but how 'bout yours?  Do you want FOUR THOUSAND "views" by the time I cook my breakfast?

It appears that a logged in member view counts as two views and a not-logged-in view counts as one view.

 

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Edited 17 hours ago by NotHereToPlayGames

[EliraFriesnan]

That would be too easy, reminds a second grader school project. And most importantly, why would someone do that for a member who is not here for a year? Probably already forgot and chills somewhere on Bahamas. Last but not least, ask the admins to look at the logs!  They will show real IPs.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Admins don't care.  The numbers are meaningless so there is no need for them to care.

That doesn't mean we are not allowed to discuss them.

And think about it.  We have members that are no longer here FOR A REASON.

None of us know that reason.  None of us need to know.

The problem arises because we have members that "believe" in the numbers, BRAG about them PUBLICLY, and cite them CONSTANTLY as if they "do" mean something, as if they are "real".

THAT is the real problem.

Bottom line is this, this thread is here to discuss "numbers" being shown on this web site.

We have done that.

The smart people here can believe what they want.

The not-as-smart can believe what they want.

To be honest, no skin off my back either way.

 

Reality is this, the *fake* numbers are a result of people with nothing better to do logging in daily, tracking down EVERY post by three different members, and hitting the "like" button.

THEY RAN OUT OF POSTS TO CLICK "LIKE".  THAT IS WHY D.DRAKER FELL OFF THE LEADERBOARD.

Again, believe what you want, be blind to what you want, makes no difference to me.  I have stated my case, I have *FACTS* to back it up.

Our "numbers" are MEANINGLESS, admins admit that, I have informed as to WHY they are MEANINGLESS and HOW they were MANIPULATED.

I cannot be banned for speaking the truth.  Report me as a "thorn" all you want.  I have made my case and I can 'move on' now.  Dot Org.  Waka waka waka.

[EliraFriesnan]

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

The problem arises because we have members that "believe" in the numbers, BRAG about them PUBLICLY, and cite them CONSTANTLY as if they "do" mean something, as if they are "real".

THAT is the real problem.

I believe in those numbers, as I already stated, I don't trust someone will perform the fake scheme you just described. People have things in life, apart from the forum, you know! Besides, it's easy to check, as I already stated, too!

So what? It's my business in what to believe. But at this point, it's too obvious you're very annoyed with someone else's fame.

I also think there was a hidden reason to disable topic views. As already stated by @Monroe.

Otherwise they would've gotten them back by this time already.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by EliraFriesnan
a typo