I am getting blocked by websites that use Cloudflare hosting, I get stuck forever on pages like:

https://annas-archive.se/slow_download/cfaaf2af56fd5956bd3f875b7f235726/0/0

"Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds.

annas-archive.se needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding."

 

No problem on newer OSes.

On XP I am using what I think is the latest version of "New Moon"

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250531-d849524bd-uxp-4cb39ffa48-xpmod.7z

The version number, 28.10.7a1 does not appear to have changed for quite a while.

Is there any way to get past Cloudflare, or any other browser that works on WinXP 32 that can?

 

Possibly related, I am now not able to log in to my account on https://imgur.com/

 

Edited June 6, 20251 yr by Asp

Recent versions on New Moon can pass the check. But it takes a long time on a slower CPU and sometimes you need to refresh the page. That's just how it is now. The challenge is giving the client some processor workout.

There is also Supermium that is much faster.

Edited June 6, 20251 yr by j7n

How long is a long time? I have 4 cores i5 3570, 3.6GHz, and it's been 20 minutes with no change, refreshed 3 times. Process Explorer shows the whole PC using 5%. So I don't think it is even trying.

Since you said NM works, I restarted in safe mode, and this time it could pass in a few seconds..

So need to work out what add-on, adblocker, etc, is the issue.

Never heard of Supermium. From a quick look it's a variant of Chrome?

Will give it a try.

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 20251 yr by Asp

52 minutes ago, Asp said:

How long is a long time? I have 4 cores i5 3570, 3.6GHz, and it's been 20 minutes with no change, refreshed 3 times.

 

5 hours ago, Asp said:

https://annas-archive.se/slow_download/cfaaf2af56fd5956bd3f875b7f235726/0/0

On freshly launched browser - 33 seconds until the question 'Are you human' + 10 seconds for verification. (Pentium-M 1.7GHz)

56 minutes ago, Asp said:

Never heard of Supermium. From a quick look it's a variant of Chrome?

Yes, try also basilisk 55.

I think you mean Serpent 55. Basilisk is for Win 7+ and is based on UXP (like Pale/New Moon and Serpent 52).

Serpent 55 is generally on par with the above UXP browsers, but derived from Moebius, in turn from an ever-so-slightly newer version of Firefox. Maybe just new enough to deal with Cloudflare?

17 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

I think you mean Serpent 55. Basilisk is for Win 7+ and is based on UXP (like Pale/New Moon and Serpent 52).

 

17 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

Maybe just new enough to deal with Cloudflare?

On "new moon"/basilisk(serpent) 52 - hcaptcha not working, on basilisk(serpent) 55 - all ok.

Good to hear. I use 55 myself, but I also keep a copy of 52 handy.

The different names arose back in the early days. Originally Serpent was just a generic name used by "unbranded" builds of Basilisk; i.e., if you or I built the browser on our own PC, it would be called "Serpent" too. Basilisk was the "branded" name used for the official version distributed by MoonChild Productions.

For several years the folks at MoonChild Productions expressed great irritation that some users sought support for @roytam1's Serpent builds at Basilisk's Web site (then run by MCP), so we were all taught to be careful never to refer to Roytam's builds as "Basilisk" and risk driving more Serpent users there.

 

This is not a problem (only) with legacy browsers. It is also related to the use of tweaks that reduce the ID'ing of one's browsing behavior, even in the newest versions of FF and derivatives. I haven't used legacy browsers (other than icecat, if you can call that legacy) for over six months. And yet, I get annoying cloudfare BS all the time. I blame those who use cloudfare, or similar s*** to "secure" their sites. Do your homework. Make safe your castle on your own. Do not rent knights for hire to do so.

Edited June 17, 20251 yr by dmiranda

Update: the plugin "RightToClick 2.9.6" is the one that was blocking New Moon using Cloudflare. I don't use it often so disabled it.

Can get by just by turning off Javascript if a page is screwing with me.

 

On 6/18/2025 at 8:41 AM, Asp said:

Can get by just by turning off Javascript if a page is screwing with me.

Try Enable right click bookmarklet

javascript:(function(d){var a=d.document,h=function(){},c=a.body||a.getElementsByTagName("body")[0],f=a.documentElement||a.getElementsByTagName("html")[0],k=[c,f,a],l=["webkit","khtml","moz","ms",""],g=["contextmenu","selectstart","select","mousedown","mouseup"],b=d.Selection,e=b&&b.prototype;e&&(e.removeAllRanges=h,b=a.selection)&&(b.clear=h);for(e=k.length;e--;)if(f=k[e]){for(b=g.length;b--;)f["on"+g[b]]=null;if(a=f.style)for(a.cursor="",a.webkitTouchCallout="initial",b=l.length;b--;)a[((c=l[b])?"-"+c+"-":c)+"user-select"]="initial"}(c=d.jQuery||d.Zepto)&&c(d).off(g)})(this);

source: https://gist.github.com/duzun/d66c775a39a5be9fb519

Often you need to turn off javascript after the page is loaded, or it won't load right without it. I still use Opera 12 (very old) which allows this without an extension.

IMHO, cloudfare sites must be avoided all the time.

14 hours ago, j7n said:

I still use Opera 12 (very old)

That's why youtube gives you Opera ads, Opera is a niche browser, almost no one uses it today. Which means cloudfare has everything on you.

good old opera
i loved it till last 11 version (12 was kinda crappy)

then they went chromium garbage route...

kinda sad nobody took leaked source code and made it better like they do with these FF and CHR forks

Edited June 20, 20251 yr by vinifera

It was the best browser of its time with some much functionality that requires plugins on other browsers. Selection from within links, selective disablement of javascript, download resuming, urfilter, importing of certificates, saving of forms when pressing the back button. I still use new Opera (Opium) because it is at least as good as other Chrome browsers, and they added a few things to it.