MSFN UI gets brighter and larger with each update. Hence more blurry and hard to read.

[Saxon]

11 hours ago, vinifera said:

and within last 8 months or so i noticed on other sites and forums weird behaviour
sometimes screen gets a tone warmer (little orangeish), then goes colder (little blueish)

It's the new, trendy overlay they use to get the brightness up. MSFN uses the acidly bright greenish overlay.

[Saxon]

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But you cite/blame MSFN "update".  A picture is not proof.  Show me how the HTML CODE changed "before" versus "after".

Yes it is, or you want to say you don't notice the absolutely flat upvote button? Or the bigger tiles and fonts?

[UCyborg]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I don't think MSFN updated anything.

Agreed, this website does not offer dark mode so this topic is irrelevant in terms of site issues related to dark mode. The duplicated text for member status though, yeah that's relevant.

I do notice the difference in his screenshots if I compare Edge 94 with Thorium 117, both using that force dark mode for web content flag, old Edge is pure black, newer Thorium is like in his second screenshot.

29 minutes ago, vinifera said:

tho if youre on windows 10/11 who knows...

Working great and reliably, going from experience from both home and workplace.

Edited September 14, 2024 by UCyborg

[Saxon]

11 hours ago, UCyborg said:

I do notice the difference in his screenshots if I compare Edge 94 with Thorium 117, both using that force dark mode for web content flag, old Edge is pure black, newer Thorium is like in his second screenshot.

My screenshots are from the same browser, ans yes, Edge has proper colours, Thorium is off because it's based on Supermium, and Supermium is always brighter, it has grey instead of black, but it's not a browser issue, in this case.

[Saxon]

11 hours ago, UCyborg said:

in terms of site issues related to dark mode. The duplicated text for member status though, yeah that's relevant.

It doesn't have to, it's a standard for decades in Chrome, and huge text and tiles are seen in "light mode".

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I think I found something for you, if you are really interesting in doing a Deep Dive.

Right-click on top of "Saxon" where you cite the text as too bright, access the "Inspect" and scroll down to this section.

The toggle these two entries and report your findings on "brightness".  I have a hunch that once you disable "text-shadow", the brightness returns to what you are used to seeing.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Scroll up and also toggle this and compare/contrast the brightness contrast -

[NotHereToPlayGames]

51 minutes ago, Saxon said:

but it's not a browser issue, in this case

I agree.  But it is also not an MSFN "update", nothing has changed that I can find.  Nothing.

I'd point to the "mathematics" that your OS and GPU has to perform to take the ORIGINAL COLOR and redefine it for "dark".

Call it a "rounding error".  In order for ANY system to use "dark", it takes the ORIGINAL COLOR and performs MATH on that color, then sends you the output of that MATH.

#000 is changed to #FFF...  #FFF is changed to #000...  black is changed to white...  white is changed to black...  MATH IS INVOLVED...

An "MSFN update" would imply that the ORIGINAL COLOR was CHANGED.  I am seeing ZERO evidence of this.

[vinifera]

whatever it is it is on his side
i don't have blur issues he presents

[UCyborg]

1 hour ago, Saxon said:

My screenshots are from the same browser, ans yes, Edge has proper colours, Thorium is off because it's based on Supermium, and Supermium is always brighter, it has grey instead of black, but it's not a browser issue, in this case.

I checked non-legacy Thorium 117, which has nothing to do with Supermium, now also plain Google Chrome 128, they both render those parts grey.

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But it is also not an MSFN "update", nothing has changed that I can find.  Nothing.

I also checked the archived version of the website on Wayback Machine from January, new Chrome renders it brighter, old Chrome renders it darker.

1 hour ago, UCyborg said:

2 hours ago, vinifera said:

tho if youre on windows 10/11 who knows...

Working great and reliably, going from experience from both home and workplace.

Also, these two versions are only ones that were tested by Chromium devs and vetted by larger population. Anything Chromium past version 109 that runs on pre-Win10 is unofficial and is vetted by much smaller population.

Edited September 14, 2024 by UCyborg

[NotHereToPlayGames]

20 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

new Chrome renders it brighter

But Saxon is citing "same browser".  So I'm still confused.

I can not reproduce the brightness difference here.  My OS is set to LIGHT.

The Saxon text he is referring to is white text on dark blackground with OS set to LIGHT.  Even the HTML code reveals PURE WHITE (color: #fff).  By his screencap, it REMAINS as white text on dark background with the OS set to DARK.

[UCyborg]

1 minute ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But Saxon is citing "same browser".  So I'm still confused.

Rule #1 of tech support: Never believe the customer until you have verified their claims.

I have no way to verify so...GL HF?

[Klemper]

The UI elements have gotten bigger just after the last update, probably good for those with vision impairment,

[Klemper]

11 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Rule #1 of tech support: Never believe the customer until you have verified their claims.

That's why such "support" will be ousted very soon and replaced with bots which don't have such "rules".

[Klemper]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But Saxon is citing "same browser".  So I'm still confused.

I too didn't change the browser, the colours have become lighter everywhere. The tile under Saxon's portrait was yellow, now it's of lemon colour.

The one that says.

Saxon last won the day on September 5

Saxon had the most liked content!