Tihiy Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) "Taskbar2" is new StartAllBack version with fully recreated taskbar. It's unfinished preview and is for testing only. It's all-new code which will pose new challenges and degradations... but breaking from stale taskbar implementation will provide new possibilities. Not finished: - No perks (centered, segmented ex.) - No translation for taskbar context menu Expect all kinds of things and try all kinds of software and tests Please stay strictly on topic. Do regression testing (compare with existing classic taskbar / stable version) Salvation: https://startisback.com/T2.exe Edited July 18, 2024 by Tihiy 4
Tihiy Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) Functionality checklist General 21H2/22(3)H2/24H2 are slightly different, binary compatibility with Canary+ may be difficult Shouldn't crash when logging off or exiting explorer (Ctrl+Shift+taskbar context menu) Settings from classic taskbar (taskbar position/size/toolbars) should be compatible Leak testing to be done No plans to be reimplemented / different: No 7+ Taskbar Tweaker or taskbar hacks expected to work Application telemetry: test if launching / switching between applications affects frequently used app list First boot settings: test if creating new profile works okay for taskbar / start menu Immersive fullscreen apps: taskbar will not be shown above/auto-hidden with fullscreen metro apps Edge gestures: test if edge gestures on touchscreen work as expected Voice commands: test if voice command window is positioned properly Monitor filtering: pinned apps are always shown on secondary taskbars Primary / secondary taskbars: Working area responds to taskbar size/dpi/position changes, including corner icon flyouts Theme changes accordingly Position and size is saved properly (primary taskbar saves settings 2 seconds after changing) Primary taskbar retains saved / primary display Per-display window filtering works as expected / works with conjunction of virtual desktops Taskbar does not show above full screen app Tablet posture should affect all button padding Primary taskbar toolbars: Toolbars menu is shown if taskbar is unlocked / there are toolbars Adding / removing first-party and third-party toolbars works as expected (TrueLaunchBar (?), etc) Adding / removing / changing / moving toolbars results in proper taskbar size Start menu/buttons: Start menu invocation closes opened app menus Start menu invocation with Win, Ctrl+Esc, start button with classic/native taskbar Task view / search / widgets button functionality System tray / corner icons area functionality Autohide/autoshy: Taskbar should hide automatically and show when mouse is on screen edge (tablet edge gesture (?)) Should not show on screen edge while in fullscreen applications Shy autohide should hide when covered by windows Refer to alpha 1 checklist as well Edited July 16, 2024 by Tihiy 3
mackid1993 Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 Is the download not live yet? I just downloaded it and got the version signed June 2nd. Thank you for saving us!! It is live. Try appending something to url if it gets cached https://startisback.com/T2.exe?refresh=1 Maybe a temp glitch? Jul 8 signature on what I just downloaded. 1 minute ago, Tihiy said: It is live. Try appending something to url if it gets cached https://startisback.com/T2.exe?refresh=1 Thanks, it was cached!
mackid1993 Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 (edited) I just moved my taskbar to the top of the screen and got this little glitch for a moment with the start button. It returned back to the left after a moment. However when it returned it kept a large gap. Edit: Moved it back to the bottom and the start button is totally gone. I can't attach the screenshot because I'm out of space on MSFN but picture a large gap, I hover my mouse over it and it comes back. Edited July 8, 2024 by mackid1993 1
tistou77 Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 Still the "problem" with the margin on the thumbnails But I didn't see anything mentioned about this in the modifications, so normal Return to stable version
Uiti P. Uszer Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 I tried the new Alpha2 taskbar on my Server 2025 (26244.5000) VM and it works well. Prior to upgrading to Alpha2, SAB 3.7.11 taskbar wouldn't even initialize. 1
mackid1993 Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Uiti P. Uszer said: I tried the new Alpha2 taskbar on my Server 2025 (26244.5000) VM and it works well. Prior to upgrading to Alpha2, SAB 3.7.11 taskbar wouldn't even initialize. Yup. I tested on Win 11 Pro 26244 and it works. This is the real deal. A faithful reimplementation, there's only one guy on the planet with the skills to reverse engineer this. Thank you @Tihiy. Edited July 9, 2024 by mackid1993 1
Tihiy Posted July 9, 2024 Author Posted July 9, 2024 8 hours ago, mackid1993 said: there's only one guy on the planet with the skills to reverse engineer this No, ExplorerPatcher did reimplement taskbar too. It's however a de/recompilation but who cares in the end. 3
mackid1993 Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 Just installed Alpha 2r. I noticed that when moving the taskbar to the right and then the top there is an extra gap between the start icon and the task buttons until explorer is restarted. It almost looks like the gap that is added for touch mode. In this build the start button stayed in its location. Also in playing with the location of the taskbar I managed to have one time where the task buttons disappeared until I moved it to another location, in that situation the start button and system tray were still present. 1
Sparkling Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 Will this replace "startallback"? Or is this tool will be used alongside startallback?
Tihiy Posted July 11, 2024 Author Posted July 11, 2024 Yes, this will be the next/future StartAllBack version. 2
tistou77 Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 Can't wait for the little "problem" with the thumbnails to be corrected to use it
rseiler Posted July 16, 2024 Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) Thanks for this, which I was compelled to move to since I'm on Dev. My only notable so far is that for whatever reason, it was all but impossible seeing which taskbar programs were running (right-side taskbar), when that wasn't the case with SaB. So, I went into Windows Settings, Personalization/Colors and changed my usual accent color to a lighter one, and that did the trick well enough (though, oddly, the stripe doesn't appear for one program, UltraEdit, as if it's not running at all). Update: UltraEdit issue went away with the 2ah release Edited July 17, 2024 by rseiler
PGomersall Posted July 16, 2024 Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) @Tihiy, I am not sure if this a bug or by design. If I shift-right-click on a taskbar button, Run as different user is not visible. I can get there by first right-clicking icon, then on the context menu do shift-right-click. In your stable version it appears with just the usual shift-right-click on the taskbar button\icon. Edited July 16, 2024 by PGomersall 1
mackid1993 Posted July 16, 2024 Posted July 16, 2024 Found a bug! Right click on the clock Click Adjust Date/Time Settings will open to System -> Notifications not Time and Language -> Date and Time Running Alpha 2ah on 26100.1150. 1
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