Thorium

[D.Draker]

18 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Only discovered just yesterday and still digging.  Ungoogled Chromium 126 returns the ability to remove client hints (read here), I will have to try this evening.

LOL, I wrote about it a month ago. Unfortunately, my 2009 PC is beginning to feel exhausted. Starting Thorium/Supermium (or any other Chrome) newer than 122 feels heavy.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

6 hours ago, D.Draker said:

I wrote about it a month ago.

Was that a "look at me, I'm always right" reply?  

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Was that a "look at me, I'm always right" reply?  

No, it was a friendly reminder to follow the news on the site.

[D.Draker]

19 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Ungoogled Chromium v122

Did you already apply the patch for client hints in 122? Does really work?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I have no use for a "patch".  I can fake Client Hints via PROXOMITRON - the Swiss Army Knife of the internet that seems to be "over the head" and "too complicated" for most MSFN members.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

On 7/15/2024 at 6:01 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

My credit card web site no longer works in Ungoogled Chromium v94 all the way through v121.

But DOES work in Ungoogled Chromium v122.

But does NOT work in latest-and-greatest newest-there-is Ungoogled Chromium v126 - does not matter if Client Hints is enabled or disabled.

Working again in Ungoogled Chromium v94 and v114.

They are clearly "experimenting" with their code almost DAILY.

I guess I need to give them a MONTH or so for the dust to settle.

Edited July 17, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

For testing not only real or faked header Client Hints, but also for testing real or faked javascript Client Hints:  https://user-agent-client-hints.glitch.me/

Proving more and more that PROXOMITRON was and remains "way ahead of its time".

[Dixel]

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Working again in Ungoogled Chromium v94 and v114.

What works or doesn't work in Ungoogled isn't relevant, and has no relation to Supermium of Thorium.

Supermium of Thorium aren't Ungoogled, therefore they function differently. Does your site work in Thorium?

Edit. It (*the site) may try to invoke google services.

Edited July 17, 2024 by Dixel

[NotHereToPlayGames]

"Bite me".  I don't see "admin" next to your name, as the infamous saying goes around here.

The other post you posted within minutes of the one above has ZERO to do with THAT thread.

But no, I will not start trolling you around and citing "stay on topic" like you seem to be doing here.

The "Thorium" discussion evolved into Client Hints (and a banking site login).

But sure, "fair enough", I shall test in THORIUM.  Eventually...

Edited July 17, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Thorium is reacting identically to Ungoogled Chromium as far as my banking login web site.

Though it is off by ONE release.

In Ungoogled, I had to increment upward in versions from v94 and increment all the way up to v122 before I could log in (with the BS banner about my browser being outdated blah blah blah crap).

It is the v122 that misled me into thinking it was Client Hints (I disable in v94 through v121, I had to resort to Proxomitron for v122).

Thorium will not let me log in on v97, v114, and v119.  But does let me log in on v121 - so one version prior to Ungoogle v122 successful login.

Ungoogled will NOT let me log in on v126 (with or without Client Hints disabled).

Thorium does not have a v126 yet.  Did not try Thorium v122, v123, or v124.

Edited July 17, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[D.Draker]

10 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Thorium will not let me log in on v97, v114, and v119.  But does let me log in on v121 - so one version prior to Ungoogle v122 successful login.

Ungoogled will NOT let me log in on v126 (with or without Client Hints disabled).

Thorium does not have a v126 yet.  Did not try Thorium v122, v123, or v124.

Care to elaborate, what exactly happens, cloudfare check kicks in?

[D.Draker]

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

The "Thorium" discussion evolved into Client Hints (and a banking site login).

Client Hints discussion is pretty much on-topic since win32 promised to get rid of them, evidently, it still didn't make it out to the release. But I trust it will. I trust win32.

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

"Bite me". 

That's what goblins in the original Sacred screamed at me.

 

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I don't see "admin" next to your name, as the infamous saying goes around here.

Please stick to the original, it's "by", not "next". Developed, invented and copyright protected by our dear friend @Jody Thornton, whom we love more and more with each passing day, one of the rarest proper spelling people, along with AstroSkipper, Dave and win32. Me, of course.

 

[D.Draker]

On 7/16/2024 at 7:16 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Was that a "look at me, I'm always right" reply?  

Your checking site tells "Requires Chrome >as  low as 84< or equivalent". Who's right now? Whatever you may think, they still make a fingerprint, even if we assume Client Hint was not chosen by default in 86 or 94.

20 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

For testing not only real or faked header Client Hints, but also for testing real or faked javascript Client Hints:  https://user-agent-client-hints.glitch.me/

There's another interesting matter, I wonder of those are blocked in either of these browsers.

https://browserleaks.com/rects

[NotHereToPlayGames]

3 hours ago, D.Draker said:

...one of the rarest proper spelling people, along with AstroSkipper, Dave and win32. Me, of course.

3 hours ago, D.Draker said:

There's another interesting matter, I wonder of those are blocked in either of these browsers.

As far as proper spelling, is this supposed to be "of" or "if" ???

 

3 hours ago, D.Draker said:

Who's right now?

This coupled with the incessant spelling point-outs just make you sound like a pretentious snobby snoot.  Or is that your goal in life ???

[NotHereToPlayGames]

3 hours ago, D.Draker said:

Client Hints discussion is pretty much on-topic since win32 promised to get rid of them, evidently, it still didn't make it out to the release.

The banking site issues does not seem to be tied to Client Hints.  That was my original assessment.  But I can FAKE Client Hint results, both header and javascript, via PROXOMITRON and I can now rule out Client Hints.

There are some Reddit and Nerd Wallet reports citing that they have called into Customer Support because they can access via most-recent Firefox but can not access via most-recent Chrome.

I've technically not tried most-recent "official" Chrome.  But I can attest that newest Thorium and newest Ungoogled Chromium both can NOT log in.

I have no interest in most-recent Firefox.

The prevailing theory at the moment is that it is a password check for "special symbols" but I have not confirmed that with the bank's own Customer Support "chat".

My password DOES HAVE a "special symbol", so this theory doesn't seem accurate.  But it is all I have heard thus far.

At any rate, I think we can conclude that it is NOT a Thorium or even an Ungoogled Chromium issue - but rather some "script kiddy" working on "improving" the bank's web site.

Given the month on the calendar, I would almost assume some college student is behind this.  Bright and intelligent, but not quite ready for the "real world", lol.