MyPal 68

[NotHereToPlayGames]

16 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

You don't get it.

I do get it!  That alone is not a reason for the developer to cancel his vision of removing XUL.  Your browser buttons cannot define Mypal's "path forward".

You're not the only one that creates browser buttons.  I have just under two dozen of them that I've created for lab use at work (proprietary, cannot share!).  *MY* browser buttons cannot define Mypal's "path forward".

My department at work is the ONLY DEPARTMENT allowed to use WinXP.

We have to support automotive products that we produced FIFTEEN YEARS AGO that can still be purchased "brand new" at automotive supply chains like O'Reilly, Napa, AutoZone, Parts Geek, Advance, etc.

Software technologies that were quite advanced as far as automotive goes, but the software licences cannot be migrated to newer Windows even if the software itself runs on newer Windows (most do not).

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1 minute ago, AstroSkipper said:

And forget about xiaoxiaoflood. This is simply crap.  I have tested it deeply, and this method for loading legacy extensions and scripts cannot do anything valuable in Mypal 68 except failing.

[AstroSkipper]

10 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

10 hours ago, feodor2 said:

Pleas tell this versions numbers, mypal 14.5  is now at 85 on css and 88 on javascript

@feodor2 As I already suggested, I will send you via PM an archive with the most recent Custom Buttons extension, the no longer working UC.JS scripts together with a CSS stylesheet which has the task to style the toolbar button generated by one of the scripts. Everything works fine in Mypal 68.14.4b and has stopped working in Mypal 68.14.5b. And forget about xiaoxiaoflood. This is simply crap.  I have tested it deeply, and this method for loading legacy extensions and scripts cannot do anything valuable in Mypal 68 except failing.

I forgot to mention that for testing purpose only, you have to use a much better loading method for scripts and CSS stylesheets I already provided in my thread in the first post when starting the thread. I will configure the archive in a way you only have to copy all files to the correct locations of your fresh installation and profile folder. Install it first in Mypal 68.14.4b and then in Mypal 68.14.5b! You will then see the problems I have been talking about. BTW, all my implementations do not generate any errors in the Browser Console in Mypal 68.14.4b since I have fixed all of them. 

P.S.: Archive file already sent via PM last night. 

Edited November 28, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[AstroSkipper]

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I do get it!  That alone is not a reason for the developer to cancel his vision of removing XUL.  Your browser buttons cannot define Mypal's "path forward".

Sorry. It seems you really don't get it.  The Custom Buttons extension works in the official Firefox releases in general, even in the latest versions. And so do my and other custom buttons created with this extension. If the latest version of Mypal 68 no longer supports this extension, then that is actually an issue that does not even occur in the official Mozilla versions. And you won't understand the problem if you are not a user of Mypal 68 and this extension. You are a Chrome/Chromium user and has abandoned Windows XP.  Your self-created, proprietary buttons have nothing to do with this topic and are totally irrelevant. It's not about stopping software development, but rather about steering it in the right direction so as not to act even worse than Mozilla does. And for someone who hates raccoons 🦝, has never really been involved with Mypal 68  and is no longer a user of Windows XP, I don't understand what you're actually trying to accomplish here.  

[NotHereToPlayGames]

8 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

The Custom Buttons extension works in the official Firefox releases in general, even in the latest versions.

Noted.  I missed that part of the conversation.  Apologies.

9 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

and is no longer a user of Windows XP

Not true.  I still use XP on my Acer Aspire One POS.  AND on my computer out in the garage for tuning aftermarket turbo projects cars.  No longer "daily", but they both get used VERY often.

I really really really do need to THROW THE ACER POS AWAY.  Brings nothing but STRESS everytime I try to do something on it, lol.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

13 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

You are a Chrome/Chromium user and has abandoned Windows XP.

Again, not true.  I posted just a few posts up that my department at work is the only department still allowed to use XP.

Legacy hardware support for automotive hardware.

We do not (can not) use XP to surf the internet.  But our software is BROWSER-BASED to fill in "tables" for engine controller data that gets "flashed" to the engine controller.

We can use any browser that works on XP.

[AstroSkipper]

5 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

19 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

The Custom Buttons extension works in the official Firefox releases in general, even in the latest versions.

Noted.  I missed that part of the conversation.  Apologies.

Accepted. Such misunderstandings can happen. You know, I am a man of clear words. 

6 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I really really really do need to THROW THE ACER POS AWAY.  Brings nothing but STRESS everytime I try to do something on it, lol.

Then send it to me in Germany! 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

20 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

It's not about stopping software development, but rather about steering it in the right direction so as not to act even worse than Mozilla does.

I'm not "against" abandoning XUL.  I personally think that the version of Mypal WE BOTH will be using TWO YEARS FROM NOW will be "better" if XUL continues to be removed.

Or is the claim here that Mozilla's mistakes of the past rest solely on XUL ???  If so, I was not engaged during that transition.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1 minute ago, AstroSkipper said:

Then send it to me in Germany!

It is being planned to undergo a Win2k install via an .iso provided by another MSFN member.

But even if that Acer no longer runs XP, please keep in the back of your mind that I tune aftermarket turbo engines as a hobby and I *MUST* use XP on my garage computers and engine tuning software.

Yes, you are correct, I have "abandoned" XP for my home computers (two desktops and three laptops).  But there is still the Acer in Limbo.  And one desktop and one laptop out in the garage all presently on XP.

[AstroSkipper]

To get back on topic, I am a true, daily Windows XP user.  I have very special UC.JS scripts (created by a great German Firefox community) running in Mypal 68, some of which I had to customise for the now obsolete Mypal 68 browser. I have also developed nice and more complex custom buttons especially for Mypal 68. I will produce a clip to give you an impression of my configuration and work. I have already posted a clip with my new Process Mode Toggler custom button. I don't know if you've looked at it yet. 



https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/?do=findComment&comment=1275047

 

Edited November 28, 2024 by AstroSkipper

[NotHereToPlayGames]

6 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

I have already posted a clip with my new Process Mode Toggler custom button. I don't know if you've looked at it yet.

I have.  To be perfectly honest, it is so far the ONLY custom button of yours that I would like to have in my own arsenal.

So far, I have only seen the clip.  I may have missed the actual download of the toggler as I do not visit those threads as often.

Unless the post has been "pinged", an UPDATE of current content will not show up as NEW CONTENT in the "unread/activity" links that I use for MSFN.

[AstroSkipper]

The Process Mode Toggler custom button has been originally developed for my personal use only. So, no download link is available at the moment as it is not released so far. And if Mypal 68 doesn't support the Custom Buttons extension any longer, then there will never be a release of this button. It's up to @feodor2 what will happen next. BTW, my Restart & Purge v2.0 custom button is a unique one for convenient clearing of the Startup Cache via one click. This is very important for all users of UC.JS scripts to make them run correctly after code or script changes. 

Edited November 28, 2024 by AstroSkipper

[AstroSkipper]

Here is a short demo of the Extension Options Menu script:



This script is no longer working in Mypal 68.14.5b due to the recent changes. You won't find anything comparable. This is an Add-ons Manager in the form of a toolbar button. Webextensions can't do that due to their restrictions. That's why you can't find any working Add-ons Manager extensions on Mozilla Firefox extensions page.

P.S.: At this point, I should mention that this script works in more recent, official Firefox releases but no longer in Mypal 68.14.5b. And I totally forgot to show in the clip that a left-click onto an extension opens its Options. Even uninstalling extensions can be done via this script. In short, a fast Add-ons Manager in the form of a toolbar button.

Edited November 29, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[feodor2]

I plan next version with css layers feature by the end of the year

 

@AstroSkipper I have taken files. installed and checked

68.14.4:

- Two new buttons: css loader and assuming the list of completely all extensions including search and also restart, search do nothing ublock open options, restart with other stuff works.

- css styles import and open do not work

- custom buttons extension installed paxmod only but do not work (How to install a button?)

68.14.6a:  already have went back to browser.xul (xioxui scripts are working again)

But your stuff are the same as above only list of extensions button is broken then (document.getElementById('eom-button') is null)

115esr original:

Nothing works, no any custom buttons extension possible to install

So what about recent foxes?

[AstroSkipper]

18 hours ago, feodor2 said:

@AstroSkipper I have taken files. installed and checked

I'm glad to hear it.

18 hours ago, feodor2 said:

68.14.4:

1. - Two new buttons: css loader and assuming the list of completely all extensions including search and also restart, search do nothing ublock open options, restart with other stuff works.

2. - css styles import and open do not work

3. - custom buttons extension installed paxmod only but do not work (How to install a button?)

1. What search are you talking about?

2. Sorry but that is not true. The UserCSSLoader script is fully working in Mypal 68.14.4b. Here is a short demo:



The "Import styles"is only necessary if new styles are added or some styles have been edited. When starting the browser, all styles are automatically loaded by this script. And what do you want to open?  The CSS folder? A stylesheet in an editor? The userchrome.css file? Please describe it a bit more detailed! I can't do anything with statements like that. In any case, if all is configured as I described in my instructions very detailed inside the uploaded archive, then all features of the UserCSSLoader script are definitely working. The reported issue was its CSS stylesheet which does not work in Mypal 68.14.5b only.

3. Sorry but that is not true, either. The Custom Buttons extension works fine in Mypal 68.14.4b. At the moment, I have installed 11 custom buttons in this browser. Here is a short demo:



For installing a custom button, you click the "Open file" dialogue from the browser main menu, go to the Restart & Purge v2.0 10-12-24  003806.htm file I uploaded for you and click onto it. Everything else goes without saying.  If you want to see my most recent Process Mode Toggler custom button in action in Mypal 68.14.4b, then have a look at here: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183495-mypal-68/?do=findComment&comment=1275154

 

Edited December 1, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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