Brickedandroid Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dixel said: Hi@win32, for the first time a small issue with the kernel, short story, I had to install an update KB4499184, to be able to run a game, now open/save dialog doesn't work in most apps, chrome for example. This is with all kernels, but currently I'm on v06102022. I also have the platform and DX11 update, that's all. Thanks for looking into this. Does it affect both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or only affects either 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you also tried the March 2023 builds after installing KB4499184 update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickedandroid Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dixel said: Hi@win32, for the first time a small issue with the kernel, short story, I had to install an update KB4499184, to be able to run a game, now open/save dialog doesn't work in most apps, chrome for example. This is with all kernels, but currently I'm on v06102022. I also have the platform and DX11 update, that's all. Thanks for looking into this. Does it affect both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or only affects either 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you also tried the March 2023 builds after installing KB4499184 update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickedandroid Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dixel said: Hi@win32, for the first time a small issue with the kernel, short story, I had to install an update KB4499184, to be able to run a game, now open/save dialog doesn't work in most apps, chrome for example. This is with all kernels, but currently I'm on v06102022. I also have the platform and DX11 update, that's all. Thanks for looking into this. Does it affect both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or only affects either 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you also tried the March 2023 builds after installing KB4499184 update? Because I also experienced the same thing, but only affects 32-bit programs, I'm using March 2023 builds, and not installed that update yet Edited July 22, 2023 by Brickedandroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Brickedandroid said: Does it affect both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or only affects either 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you also tried the March 2023 builds after installing KB4499184 update? Yes, I tried all kernels, including March, all is fine, except this smal issue, I have only a handful of 32 bit apps, and MKVToolNix 32 bit works fine. So I can't say for sure, but it seems it's something wrong with shell32.dll. Maybe it doesn't match the newer versions, but it's strange, because that update is from May 2019. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Brickedandroid said: Does it affect both 32-bit and 64-bit programs, or only affects either 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you also tried the March 2023 builds after installing KB4499184 update? UPDATE: I uninstalled KB4499184 (that caused the issue), rebooted, but the issue is still there. Very strange. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 KB4499184 is a preview (read: beta) of the May 2019 update. I assume that comdlg32 is the source of the problem since that's where the dialogs are located. I'll see if I can reproduce this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickedandroid Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, win32 said: KB4499184 is a preview (read: beta) of the May 2019 update. I assume that comdlg32 is the source of the problem since that's where the dialogs are located. I'll see if I can reproduce this. Preview updates are actually unworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 15 hours ago, win32 said: KB4499184 is a preview (read: beta) of the May 2019 update. I assume that comdlg32 is the source of the problem since that's where the dialogs are located. I'll see if I can reproduce this. win32, thank you for the quick response, I tried all monthly rollups (non-beta), basically any update, besides the well known April 09 [all them] lead to this issue. Even these ones. March 12, 2019—KB4489880 (Monthly Rollup) February 12, 2019—KB4487023 (Monthly Rollup) But I have poor performance with the April 09 rollup (spectrum "fix"?), so I have no choice. If in uninstall all of them and revert back to the state before, reboot, the issue is still there. Very strange. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 6:06 AM, Brickedandroid said: I also experienced the same thing, but only affects 32-bit programs, I'm using March 2023 builds, and not installed that update yet What update level are you on? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiaws Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 @Win32 can you take a look to this? Apparently the function WTSQuerySessionInformationW is broken or unavailable. Obtained this log from NVDA which references that function. It's a 32 bit program. https://pastebin.com/CM4fyJXJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 23 hours ago, win32 said: I'll see if I can reproduce this. Found an easy and fast way to replicate SP2 with nothing, except: Install in order 1 - KB971512 2 - KB2117917 3 - Apply redirecting via registry 4 - Install one of these non-beta monthly rollups (like KB4487023, KB4480968, kb 4493471). 5 - Reboot 6 - Place kernel, shell, user locally, you will see no dialogs open at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 3:20 PM, Brickedandroid said: Preview updates are actually unworth I tend to disagree, I noticed the overall speed of booting increased, some games gave more FPS, not like it's night a day difference, but noticeable on my old PC, especially good when used with ex-kernel. It's trial and error, actually, I had to test lots of them, before I found that good one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 3:10 PM, win32 said: I assume that comdlg32 is the source of the problem since that's where the dialogs are located. I checked that file, and it remains unchanged, even when I install all of that 6003 series upgrades. (looks like it's from the original SP2, released on April 2009) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 UPDATE: I found the problem, it's in the shell32.dll, not comdlg32. The bug is there when using both methods, local and normal install. I will later write what I did to solve it for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSuper2005 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 OneDrive does not work on Windows Vista Extended Kernel with the dll error issue. I hope it will probably be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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