Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) On 11/12/2020 at 4:56 PM, win32 said: Yes, that is a problem that affects even the latest versions of Opera x64. I haven't added that function yet but do plan to do it in the release after next. Hi , I've tried x64 Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 and nothing happens , yep that's right , no errors shown. Also , I've tried some games with this method with zero luck . For example, games with "mono" engine simply tell : cannot load mono. Others just quit in silence, like their process shown for a sec., then quits. By the way , could you please tell me where to read about certificates updating . Much appreciated ! Edit , I had a manual update from MS links done, still the browser tells I don't have the needed certs. Edited November 13, 2020 by Dixel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25495k Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dixel said: Hi , I've tried x64 Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 and nothing happens , yep that's right , no errors shown. Also , I've tried some games with this method with zero luck . For example, games with "mono" engine simply tell : cannot load mono. Others just quit in silence, like their process shown for a sec., then quits. By the way , could you please tell me where to read about certificates updating . Much appreciated ! Edit , I had a manual update from MS links done, still the browser tells I don't have the needed certs. and for updating certificates : http://media.kaspersky.com/utilities/CorporateUtilities/rootsupd.zip Edited November 13, 2020 by Tripredacus removed link that violated 1.b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistapocalypse Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Dixel said: By the way , could you please tell me where to read about certificates updating . Much appreciated ! Edit , I had a manual update from MS links done, still the browser tells I don't have the needed certs. Is this the “manual update” you have done? https://msfn.org/board/topic/181375-certifacte-trust-provider-error-installing-updates/?do=findComment&comment=1179898 If “the browser” is IE9 or Chrome 49, then lack of systemwide support for TLS 1.2 might be the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Please, do not post the Extended Kernel binaries on MSFN, with the exception of my own original creations, which are the NTEXT wrapper, the registry keys and the installer script (which I plan to post in one of the code example threads soon, as it serves as a good template for a script to replace in-use system files on NT 6.x). Edited November 13, 2020 by win32 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 hours ago, THK2003 said: and for updating certificates : http://media.kaspersky.com/utilities/CorporateUtilities/rootsupd.zip Thank you very much , really appreciate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Vistapocalypse said: Is this the “manual update” you have done? https://msfn.org/board/topic/181375-certifacte-trust-provider-error-installing-updates/?do=findComment&comment=1179898 If “the browser” is IE9 or Chrome 49, then lack of systemwide support for TLS 1.2 might be the problem. Hi , 1 - the “manual update” I did from these official links supplied by MS. http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cab http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/disallowedcertstl.cab It added some , but too few. And, yes , I also did the update from the post you linked a long time ago. It helped a bit , yet “the browser” still asks for more certificates . 2 - “the browser” is 36O Explorer with manually removed telemetry from the original (yes, I do not trust patches and russian repacks). It is based on Chromium 86 with TLS 1.3 and works fine with Vista , much faster than Chromium 86 on Win7. Also, I manually blocked almost all tracking features like "safebrowsing" and a ton of various IPs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 4:56 PM, win32 said: Yes, that is a problem that affects even the latest versions of Opera x64. I haven't added that function yet but do plan to do it in the release after next. Went down to Opera 42 , nothing works , now without any errors , just won't start at all . Someone here using Opera ? Oh. and Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 won't launch at all too , those files din't help ... Someone here using Chromium ungoogled ? I can't stand Firefox (just my preference, sorry). It's not that I'm a fan of chrome , just chose between the two evils. Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf2345 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Dixel said: Hi , 1 - the “manual update” I did from these official links supplied by MS. http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cab http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/disallowedcertstl.cab It added some , but too few. And, yes , I also did the update from the post you linked a long time ago. It helped a bit , yet “the browser” still asks for more certificates . 2 - “the browser” is 36O Explorer with manually removed telemetry from the original (yes, I do not trust patches and russian repacks). It is based on Chromium 86 with TLS 1.3 and works fine with Vista , much faster than Chromium 86 on Win7. Also, I manually blocked almost all tracking features like "safebrowsing" and a ton of various IPs. I am interested in the 360 Explorer without telemetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf2345 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Dixel said: Went down to Opera 42 , nothing works , now without any errors , just won't start at all . Someone here using Opera ? Oh. and Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 won't launch at all too , those files din't help ... Someone here using Chromium ungoogled ? I can't stand Firefox (just my preference, sorry). It's not that I'm a fan of chrome , just chose between the two evils. Thanks You could try Waterfox Current, or Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, asdf2345 said: I am interested in the 360 Explorer without telemetry Send me your e-mail in private messages . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dixel said: Oh. and Chromium ungoogled 84 , 85 , 86 won't launch at all too , those files din't help ... I wonder what happens if you try launching this Chromium 72: https://github.com/henrypp/chromium/releases/tag/v72.0.3626.121-r612437-win64 I had an install where chromium 8x wouldn't launch (or appear for a split second before closing) and 72 would launch, but give an "access violation" error. Not sure what happened but those problems went away with a fresh install of Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, win32 said: I wonder what happens if you try launching this Chromium 72: https://github.com/henrypp/chromium/releases/tag/v72.0.3626.121-r612437-win64 I had an install where chromium 8x wouldn't launch (or appear for a split second before closing) and 72 would launch, but give an "access violation" error. Not sure what happened but those problems went away with a fresh install of Vista. Well , I would've try , but it's not making any sense now . 72 is old already. Besides ,what are the features of plain chrome , Opera has hide IP (at least). Besides , I'm still fighting for DTS HD , kinda busy . Perhaps I will try later and inform you. Edited November 13, 2020 by Dixel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dixel said: Besides ,what are the features of plain chrome , Opera has hide IP (at least). I haven't much interest in Chromium/Blink myself, though I test it and support it based on popular demand. The only advantage Chromiums have right now is that they are currently the only Vista-compatible browsers capable of viewing Widevine-protected content. Edited November 13, 2020 by win32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf2345 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dixel said: Well , I would've try , but it's not making any sense now . 72 is old already. Besides ,what are the features of plain chrome , Opera has hide IP (at least). Besides , I'm still fighting for DTS HD , kinda busy . Perhaps I will try later and inform you. 72 would just be a good test point, to help figure out what is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) This is the original version of Teardown, which uses a Windows 10 exclusive API function, SetProcessDpiAwarenessContext, running on Windows Vista with an upcoming update to user32.dll: Later versions of the game no longer use this function and as such will work normally on Windows 7, 8.x and 99.9% sure, Vista, though I have no proper way of testing DX11 games on Vista due to the age of my GPU. There are also other games known to use this function, so even though the developers of Teardown realized the demand for their games on older platforms, others may take a different attitude and force users onto the latest versions of Windows 10 to use their products. So, this will allow Vista/7/8.1 users to be prepared for such a future event. Since some interest has been shown in donations for my work, I have set up a method for users to contribute financially for this and some of my other works: https://www.patreon.com/win32 Edited November 16, 2020 by win32 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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