mo832 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 @Bersaglio, I did get your link in the pm. Thank you. This will help until the next time MS plays a new trick with MSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdfox7 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, mo832 said: @Bersaglio, I did get your link in the pm. Thank you. This will help until the next time MS plays a new trick with MSE. Mo Did you try the links I posted? I confirmed that they work. Please substitute for the following links, click on any snapshot and the file will be served immediately. There are limited dates available! https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpam-fe.exe https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpas-fe.exe https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpam-feX64.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo832 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, sdfox7 said: Mo Did you try the links I posted? I confirmed that they work. Please substitute for the following links, click on any snapshot and the file will be served immediately. There are limited dates available! https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpam-fe.exe https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpas-fe.exe https://web-beta.archive.org/web/*/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpam-feX64.exe Yes, I did try the top one. Thank you for all your help and advice. What I found is that at least for me, the top link does download a file called mpam-fe.exe. However, it is only about 2mb in size. I don't know if I again did something wrong, but this appears to be not the same file I was expecting. Also, given the link from Bersaglio, I think I have what I need to recover the old mpsigstub. I am interested in your further comments regarding the wayback machine method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdfox7 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, mo832 said: Yes, I did try the top one. Thank you for all your help and advice. What I found is that at least for me, the top link does download a file called mpam-fe.exe. However, it is only about 2mb in size. I don't know if I again did something wrong, but this appears to be not the same file I was expecting. Also, given the link from Bersaglio, I think I have what I need to recover the old mpsigstub. I am interested in your further comments regarding the wayback machine method. It depends on the date that you choose. Naturally these files grow over time as the threats increase in number and complexity. I downloaded a definitions file from Christmas 2010 and it was 58.7MB: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20101224185315/http://download.microsoft.com/download/DefinitionUpdates/mpam-fe.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bersaglio Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Proper MPSigStub.exe from mpam-fe.exe revision 1.239.450.0 have a creation date of October 26, 2016. Therefore, I don't recommend using too old versions before this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho3000 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I Did try this again 1. Unpack mpam-fe.exe package to some folder (using WinRAR or something). 2. Remove MPSigStub.exe from this folder. 3. Unpack mpam-fe.exe revision 1.239.450.0 (or earlier package) to a different folder. Then copy MPSigStub.exe to the first folder with newer definitions. 4. Run MPSigStub.exe (in the first folder, of course) ----------------------------------------- using my MPSigStub then repacking it didn't seem to work this time It did it ok on 2 PC's is there any new defs updates from 30th 1st 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 That is the manual procedure, all right! But you may just use @heinoganda's updater v.1.5 daily, if you want, and it does it all automagically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I also have an installer (Works only if the POSReady key is present in the registry!) for a small updater attached to the MSE Definition Updater 1.5 package where the WU/MU routine is used by MSE and is run via the Task Manager every 60 minutes. Microsoft Security Essentials Definition Updater package @dencorso By the way, I have pointed out yet another possibility how MSE gets the definition installed. Apparently gone under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo832 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, heinoganda said: I also have an installer (Works only if the POSReady key is present in the registry!) for a small updater attached to the MSE Definition Updater 1.5 package where the WU/MU routine is used by MSE and is run via the Task Manager every 60 minutes. Microsoft Security Essentials Definition Updater package @dencorso By the way, I have pointed out yet another possibility how MSE gets the definition installed. Apparently gone under. When you say "apparently gone under", do you mean it still works, or it stopped working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) @mo832 Quite simply I have still found a way, for the users who want to download the definition itself, where no MpSigStub.exe is needed! Edited April 3, 2017 by heinoganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo832 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I have just downloaded the new mpam-fe.exe, unpacked it, and ran the "old" version of mpsigstub that I was sent to me. This time the mpsigstub started to run, and then finished after only about 30-45 seconds (it usually takes about 2 minutes). It did NOT update my defs files. I still have 1.239.603.0 . What is the problem now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) @mo832 Try the method where all files with the ending vdm and dll, from the unpacked mpam-fe.exe, into the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates" copy. Do not run MpSigStub.exe, in 1-2 minutes then start the update process from MSE. When the process is complete, the previously copied vdm and dll files that are needed are no longer present in the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates", in which case the remaining files can be deleted. Edited April 4, 2017 by heinoganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bersaglio Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, mo832 said: It did NOT update my defs files. I still have 1.239.603.0 . What is the problem now?? I had this problem on one system (with errors in system log). In my case the problem was solved by a simple reboot of this system. Edited April 4, 2017 by Bersaglio add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo832 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 7 hours ago, heinoganda said: @mo832 Try the method where all files with the ending vdm and dll, from the unpacked mpam-fe.exe, into the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates" copy. Do not run MpSigStub.exe, in 1-2 minutes then start the update process from MSE. When the process is complete, the previously copied vdm and dll files that are needed are no longer present in the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\Updates", in which case the remaining files can be deleted. I tried this method next. It did remove 1 or 2 files from the folder and left 3 files there. After about 15 mins, the files were still there and the MSE was not updated ("created 2 days ago"). Then I ran mse_updater 1.5, it ran and finished with the message "there is no update available". Still my mse shows 1.239.603.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) @mo832 Then set the definition files of MSE back with mse_updater 1.5 (reset the antivirus update engine), then update the defintion (update the virus definition for MSE). Edited April 4, 2017 by heinoganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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