Tripredacus Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 This topic is to track thing that the Windows 10 10586 update has been changing when applied to previous Windows 10 versions. Removes touchpad and printer drivers: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/0fa60d9e-ad1c-4e5e-b25f-737d1ba23bb7/window-10-ver-1511-upgrade-overwrites-device-drivers-need-to-reinstall-again?forum=win10itprosetup Resets file associations/default apps, re-enables Fast Startup: https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/3sr2es/psa_warning_the_windows_10_fall_update_resets_all/ Resets privacy settings: http://betanews.com/2015/11/14/has-windows-10-november-update-threshold-2-reset-your-privacy-settings-and-default-apps/ If you find any other changes like this, feel free to post them here.
NoelC Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) My O&O ShutUp10 settings right after the "upgrade": I had almost everything green before. Only things not thrown to green were: Windows Defender disabled, Access to local language for browsers disabled, and a couple of the Windows Update items. All the rest, most notably membership in spynet, telemetry, and synchronization, were flipped to red by the "upgrade". Also, all Apps were restored, even though I had removed / de-provisioned them every way I know how. This included Cortana. OneDrive was restored and re-enabled. A large number of scheduled operations were restored in the Task Scheduler. A bunch of services I had disabled were re-enabled. -Noel Edited November 18, 2015 by NoelC
NoelC Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) By the way, some ridiculous Microsoft employee named Aul eMailed a note claiming "This desktop update is packed with nearly 200 new capabilities". I'm thinking he's counting each pixel. Hello,As you might have already heard, we just released a major Windows update to the world. This desktop update is packed with nearly 200 new capabilities, many of which were developed directly as a result of feedback from Insiders like you. Check out Terry Myerson's blog for more details — and thanks, as always, for your feedback.On a related note, we recently unveiled a range of exciting new devices, all built to make the most of Windows 10. The Surface Pro 4, Surface Book, and the Band 2 are available in stores now and we’ve begun rolling out an update bringing Windows 10 to Xbox One. Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL will be available soon.* You can read more about the new Windows 10 devices here.Tips & TricksA reminder that Office 2016 preview downloads will begin to expire this month (documents on the preview will be limited to read-only access). It’s recommended that you install the Office 2016 release or re-install your previous Office version. Office 365 Home or Personal customers can install Office 2016 from the My Account page. Info for IT ProsWe have added some new Windows 10 deployment and servicing guidance to our TechNet site: Plan for Windows 10 deployment, Introduction to Windows 10 servicing and Windows 10: Reducing the disk footprint. Azure Active Directory Join is a new functionality in Windows 10 that allows you to join an enterprise or work owned Windows 10 device to your Azure AD tenancy in the cloud. Learn more about the Directory. Info for DevelopersGet the Microsoft HoloLens Development Edition. The first Microsoft HoloLens devices will ship in the first quarter of 2016 to developers in the US and Canada. Help develop the future. Apply to be part of our developer community. As always, we look forward to your feedback on the latest Insider Preview builds.You can follow me on Twitter @gabeaul for breaking news on Windows Insider Previews. And for other updates on the Windows Insider Program, including special events, activities and other Insider benefits, follow us on Twitter @windowsinsider.Thanks!g -Noel Edited November 18, 2015 by NoelC 1
jaclaz Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Well Gabe Aul referencing Terry Myerson is not like "news". BUT on the actual Terry Myerson blog there is a statement that sounds a bit (too much) bold:http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/?OCID=WIP_r_Body_Blog_LatestPC Experience improvements in this update include:Performance in everyday tasks, such as boot time now nearly 30% faster than Windows 7 on the same device. Queer that you didn't notice such a dramatic speed improvement. jaclaz
NoelC Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Booting the computer is not a task. The operating system is there to facilitate tasks, not be one. -Noel 1
jaclaz Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Booting the computer is not a task. The operating system is there to facilitate tasks, not be one.Well, it greatly depends on the use of a computer.My desktop is almost never booted or rebooted, as an example, and when for some reasons I switch it off, what I normally do next time/next day is to switch it on and go get a coffee while it boots (not that it is anyway slow, but in my use booting time is totally irrelevant).Still my laptop is booted only "on demand" and when I use it I want to have it booted up quickly, in this case it becomes a task, and should it be slow booting it would be very annoying. The statement by Terry Myerson, however, makes no sense anyway. The update is for Windows 10 so it might be of relevance the faster booting when compared to the previous Windows 10 version. I mean, it is entirely possible that 10240 was ALREADY(say) 29% faster than 7 on the same device , which would leave less than 1% bettering for 10586 release (nothing to be actually worth a mention, let alone as first one of the three main points listed) and conversely, provided that any machine actually suited for Windows 7 or later normally boots (or should boot) in under a minute, it would mean *like* half a second in practice. jaclaz
NoelC Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Well of course, there's really not any substance being added to Windows 10. That seemed pretty obvious already. Thus the marketers have to focus on what it does better than "old reliable", which folks are hanging on to. The "in-place upgrade" is strictly to cause disruption and buzz, because as every evil marketer knows, free press is good press. -Noel
Tripredacus Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 Re-enables powercfg Wake Settings: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/5db1f11d-3d0a-4cd7-8cc2-dd91296a1be7/windows-updates-reenable-wakearmed-state-for-mouse-keyboard-and-nic-why?forum=win10itprogeneral Although it seems those particular settings being changed by updates goes back to Windows 7.
vinifera Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 win7 boots within 40 secsso 30% reduction is what ? 12 seconds ??? gee my world is gonna spin now with that blazing fast boot time reduction
helpdesk98 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Well I managed to upgrade from an older build (really old) last night to 10586, however, the only thing good I can say is the upgrade worked smoothly using the ISO. I can not say the same for the one I attempted to get via Windows Update. I hate upgrades I prefer to do clean installs.
NoelC Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 I hate upgrades I prefer to do clean installs. And THAT is exactly what's worst about Microsoft's present scheme. It's as though they've taken everything about Windows that's ever been weak and decided that's what needs to be the central focus of Windows 10: Toy apps (Windows Live Gallery, Gadgets, etc.)OS upgrades (what person in their right mind thinks such a system could ever be stable?)Web development philosophiesPrivacy problems and malwareReinstalling the OS every few months It's nothing less than a severe case of cranial-rectalitis. -Noel 1
helpdesk98 Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Well I found my first piece of good news: it looks like you can do a clean install after and upgrade!
NoelC Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) LOL, and the dialog is presented in the Windows 7-like WinRE environment complete with (mostly) rounded corners. Long live Aero! -Noel Edited November 22, 2015 by NoelC
helpdesk98 Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 I created the boot image using Windows Server 08 R2. Could that have anything to do with it?
NoelC Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 I don't know about Win 10, but I've seen Win 8 use old style windows in the WinRE environment. The old Win 7-era Task Manager is in there as well, and that still works fine to this day in Win 10. OK, just to test, I just booted into the WinRE environment in Win 10 build 10586. Windows still have rounded corners and look like Windows Basic mode. Not Aero Glass like what you showed. You could be right. -Noel
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