tenthor Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 ... and how do you expect that setup can see the internal SATA drive without it's drivers?thanks for your help
jaclaz Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 5) To try installation Win7 x86 -> Win7 x86 setup lunched but it can't found source folder. I was tried to continue installation with browe button but i can't see source folder also partition#2 is missing.6) To try installation Win7 x64 -> it same as Win7 x86 setup process above.As a workaround.when you are at the grub4dos choice, press "c" to get to command line.In it type:geometry (hd0)[ENTER]and geometry (hd1)[ENTER]in order to make sure which of the two is the stick (it should be (hd0) as the drives have not been yet exchanged).Then issue the command:makeactive (hd0,1)[ENTER]to make the second partition activeORmakeactive (hd0,2)[ENTER]to make the third partition active.Then issue the commands:find --set-root /menu.lst[ENTER]configfile /menu.lst[ENTER]to get back to the choices.In this cases BOOTMGR and /boot/BCD have to be in the same partition that is made active.Report what happens.If this approach works, you can add the makeactive commands in the menu.lst.jaclaz
cdob Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 Multiple boot partitions on the same drive:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=7138As far as I remember, XP maps (hd0,0) at USB flash drive.Maybe it't time to split this multi partitions posts.
Axxoul Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Hi! First off thanks to everyone for their support. I have a Fujitsu Simens laptop but my disk CD drive is broken. Have tried to boot from my XP CD from an external disk drive but i get the NTDETECT failed error. So installing from a USB key is my last resort (although i will try the ram method)I have used the latest version of WinSetupFromUSB. I have XP MCE SP3. I have attached the log file. However when I reboot, i only get a GRUB4DOS commandline. (booting works fine)I went back and edited the first boot command to put errorcheck on and this is what i get :configfile /menu.lstError 11 : Unrecognised device string, or you omitted the required DEVICE part which should lead the filename.I opened a commandline and entered the following:>> root (hd0,0)filesystem is NTFS, partition type 0x07>> configfile /menu.lstError 15: File not foundAnyone have any tips?Here is my WinSetupFromUSB.log :2009/11/12 19:17:14- WinSetupFromUSB 0.2.3 started2009/11/12 19:17:14- OS: WIN_XP Architecture type: X86 ServicePack: Service Pack 3 OS Language: 04092009/11/12 19:17:14- Getting USB drives information2009/11/12 19:17:14- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE12009/11/12 19:17:14- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #02009/11/12 19:17:15- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -12009/11/12 19:17:15- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #12009/11/12 19:17:15- Target drive selected- D:2009/11/12 19:17:15- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D:2009/11/12 19:17:15- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:17:15- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:17:15- Total source size- 0 MB2009/11/12 19:17:15- Target space available- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:17:35- Windows source selected- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- Source version- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- Service Pack- 2009/11/12 19:17:35- AMD64 flag- 02009/11/12 19:18:22- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:18:22- Total source size- 538.6 MB2009/11/12 19:18:22- Target space available- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:18:22- Windows source selected- E:2009/11/12 19:18:22- Source version- Windows XP Professional2009/11/12 19:18:22- Service Pack- Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 2009/11/12 19:18:22- AMD64 flag- 02009/11/12 19:18:23- Getting USB drives information2009/11/12 19:18:23- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE12009/11/12 19:18:23- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #02009/11/12 19:18:24- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -12009/11/12 19:18:24- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #12009/11/12 19:18:24- Target drive selected- D:2009/11/12 19:18:24- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D:2009/11/12 19:18:24- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:18:24- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:18:24- Total source size- 538.6 MB2009/11/12 19:18:24- Target space available- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:18:24- RMPrepUSB launched2009/11/12 19:18:55- RMPrepUSB closed2009/11/12 19:19:00- Getting USB drives information2009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE12009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #02009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -12009/11/12 19:19:00- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #12009/11/12 19:19:00- Target drive selected- D:2009/11/12 19:19:00- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D:2009/11/12 19:19:00- Total target size avialable- 1980 MB2009/11/12 19:19:00- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:19:01- Total source size- 538.6 MB2009/11/12 19:19:01- Target space available- 1980 MB2009/11/12 19:19:24- Removing TEMP folder2009/11/12 19:19:24- Checking if grub4dos is installed properly2009/11/12 19:19:24- grub4dos BS/MBR and files are NOT installed properly2009/11/12 19:19:24- Installing grub4dos BS/MBR and files2009/11/12 19:19:24- Backing up MBR of disk #12009/11/12 19:19:24- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe -s=mbrdisk1-20091112-191713.dat -t (hd1)2009/11/12 19:19:26- Backed up MBR of disk #12009/11/12 19:19:26- Backing up BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:28- Backed up BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:28- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:30- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:31- Grub4dos bootsector not found2009/11/12 19:19:31- Checking for grldr string in MBR of disk #12009/11/12 19:19:33- Saved MBR of disk #12009/11/12 19:19:35- Grub4dos MBR not found2009/11/12 19:19:35- Installing grub4dos bootsector to (hd1,0)2009/11/12 19:19:35- C:\WinSetupFromUSB\files\grub4dos\grubinst.exe (hd1,0)2009/11/12 19:19:35- Launching fsutil volume dismount D:2009/11/12 19:19:39- Checking for grldr string in BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:41- Saved BootSector of disk #1 partition #02009/11/12 19:19:42- Grub4dos bootsector found2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying grldr2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying menu.lst2009/11/12 19:19:42- Copying default2009/11/12 19:19:42- grub4dos installed2009/11/12 19:19:44- DOSNET.INF parsed, 117 files for ~BT folder2009/11/12 19:19:44- E:\I386\disk1---> C:\WinSetupFromUSB\TEMP\$WIN_NT$.~BT\disk1012009/11/12 19:19:51- Preparing ~BT folder completed2009/11/12 19:19:51- Launching MkMigrateInf3.cmd2009/11/12 19:19:54- Adding lines for binifix5.cmd and start64.exe2009/11/12 19:19:54- Preparing ~BT folder and boot files2009/11/12 19:19:54- Preparing ~LS folder2009/11/12 19:20:00- Preparing BOOT.INI2009/11/12 19:20:00- Preparing winsetup.lst2009/11/12 19:20:00- Copy started2009/11/12 19:20:51- E:\I386\EULA.TXT---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\EULA.TXT2009/11/12 19:20:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\EULA.TXT 0 fil(er) copied.2009/11/12 19:25:51- E:\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE2009/11/12 19:25:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\AUTOCHK.EXE 0 fil(er) copied.2009/11/12 19:25:51- E:\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE---> D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE2009/11/12 19:25:51- ERROR!!!--- not copied:E:\I386\AUTOFMT.EXE 0 fil(er) copied.2009/11/12 19:34:23- Copying completed. Took: 862.495403186718 seconds2009/11/12 19:34:23- Fixing unattended section in winnt.sif2009/11/12 19:34:23- setupORG.exe not found, replacing the original file2009/11/12 19:34:24- OEMPreinstall found, editing presetup.cmd2009/11/12 19:34:24- Removing duplicate entries in boot.ini2009/11/12 19:34:48- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:34:48- Total source size- 0 MB2009/11/12 19:34:48- Target space available- 1980 MB2009/11/12 19:34:48- Getting USB drives information2009/11/12 19:34:49- Found USB Physical Disk: CBM Flash Disk USB Device -- \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE12009/11/12 19:34:49- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #02009/11/12 19:34:50- Found USB Logical Disk: D: File system: NTFS Bootable: -12009/11/12 19:34:50- Found USB Disk Partition: Disk #1, Partition #12009/11/12 19:34:50- Target drive selected- D:2009/11/12 19:34:50- Drive letter of the active partition in selected disk- D:2009/11/12 19:34:50- Total target size avialable- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:34:50- Checking sizes...2009/11/12 19:34:50- Total source size- 0 MB2009/11/12 19:34:50- Target space available- 1432 MB2009/11/12 19:40:16- ---------------------------------Program quited-----------------------------------------------Apprently 3 files were not copied : AUTOFMT.EXE, AUTOCHK.EXE and EULA.TXT. (I deleted all other lines regarding copying)Thanks! Edited November 12, 2009 by Axxoul
ilko_t Posted November 12, 2009 Author Posted November 12, 2009 Is menu.lst in root of the USB stick?Are those 3 files in D:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\ ?Try in grub4dos command line to type:cat (fd0)/menu.lstcat (fd1)/menu.lstcat (hd0,0)/menu.lstDoes any of them find and print menu.lst? Which one? FD0?
Axxoul Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 All files are where they are supposed to be.the cat (fd0)/menu.lst prints the menu.lst fileall other commands give me "Error 15: File not found"Thanks for the fast reply btw
ilko_t Posted November 12, 2009 Author Posted November 12, 2009 Your stick is presented by BIOS as a floppy.Try to find an option in BIOS for USB emulation type:http://www.msfn.org/board/problem-usbkey-i...on-t139446.html
Axxoul Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Thanks ilko, i think that was the problem My bios does have USB HDD but my usb stick only shows under USB KEY which i guess is a floppy... Pretty weird since my other usb key with ubuntu boots up fine. Both keys are 2Gigs.You think the " Install XP from a RAM loaded ISO image " method might work in this case? or maybe " Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB "? Edited November 13, 2009 by Axxoul
jaclaz Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Thanks ilko, i think that was the problem My bios does have USB HDD but my usb stick only shows under USB KEY which i guess is a floppy... Pretty weird since my other usb key with ubuntu boots up fine. Both keys are 2Gigs.Well, NO.If your BIOS has a "USB HDD" option, it should be able to recognize a USB stick with a proper MBR on it as a partitioned device.This has nothing to do with booting or not booting, is about booting as HD vs. booting as superfloppy.Use HDhacker:http://dimio.altervista.org/eng/to save first sector of the Physicaldrive corresponding to your USB stick , compress it in a .zip archive and attach it to your next post, I'd like to have a look at it.jaclaz
Axxoul Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Thanks jaclaz, attached is the MBR_HardDisk1.dat fileTook the first sector of physicaldrive of the usb key...Here is a screen of my bios:MBR_HardDisk1.zip Edited November 13, 2009 by Axxoul
jaclaz Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Really strange, the MBR is allright, it appears like one created with RMPREPUSB.The stoopid BIOS must be checking for the "Removable" status of the stick, though it's the first time I see something like that. Which motherboard is it? You have probably two ways out:find out the manufacturer of the stick, find the Production Tool for it and "flip" the "removable" bit to have the stick seen as fixed (best)try using fbinst:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9460Try running Chipgenius on the stick:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4661if your key is one for which a suitable software can be found, it is the easiest (and permanent) solution.jaclaz
Axxoul Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Trying using fbinst right now... However saw this in boot-land :"However, ZIP disk would be (fd0) at boot time, and the data partition is (fd0,0), some application can't handle this properly. To solve this, you can use grub4dos's map command to map (fd0) to (hd0)."Have you heard of this? if yes any idea how to map fd0 to hd0?The only info i can get on the motherboard at the moment is this : Edited November 14, 2009 by Axxoul
jaclaz Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Have you heard of this? if yes any idea how to map fd0 to hd0?You joking right? I usually shout this, NOT "hear" it. Point is that it greatly depends on how the BIOS handles the thing.Your stick is actually a partitioned device, i.e. it has a MBR and 63 hidden sector (MBR+62).What a BIOS may do is to simply "ignore" the first 63 sectors and access the partition bootsector as if it was first sector instead of the 64th, thus "removing" all info about the partition (and "vanifying" the NT boot process using Disk Signature).There are quite a few reports of these "strange" BIOS behaviour, but, mainly due to posters "abandoning" the game, there is NO real, solid, documented solution, AFAIK.fbinst can use a workaround to this behaviour, that may (or may completely fail to) work in your specific case.Maybe reading this seemingly unrelated threads will clear the matter (or completely confuse you ):http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=7507http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=5766&st=77jaclaz
jaclaz Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 works with flash usb 16 GB?Of course NO. Size of the stick in bytes NEEDS to be a prime number, but not a Mersenne one:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_primeAdditionally and of course, the formatting has to be carried on with FULL moon, otherwise it won't ever work. Just TRY it! jaclaz
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