Dave-H

Is there actually a full version of 4.5.2015.12 yet? I'm still using 4.5.2015.11 with one version 12 file substitution to temporarily workaround the Windows startup problem.

You should be able to buy it (it's not free) here, although the site doesn't appear to be working at the moment. Rudolph is a member of MSFN, user name rloew, so you could just send him a personal message here about it if you're interested.

Thanks, I'll probably give it a try in that case!

Interesting that XP actually stood for "experience", I always thought it stood for "extra performance"! I'm sure that's what many people said when it came out in 2001.

Does that script actually stop the optimisation happening altogether, or does it just fix the "bug"? As I said, it's never really worried me, once the computer has restarted after the update it only needs to be on for a short while for the program to do its job in the background, and once it's completed it never runs again until there's another update. On which subject, there doesn't seem to have been any relevant .NET updates for us for a while, or have I missed some? The last ones I installed were at the end of last year.

I take it you don't have .NET 4 installed. When that is installed .NET Runtime Optimization Service v.2.050727.x86 is disabled, and it's replaced by .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X86, which is on Automatic start, and will run to optimise the system after .NET updates. It does slow the system down a bit while it's doing its thing, but once it's completed it will not run again until the next update, even though it's set to Automatic start. I just let it complete, it doesn't take all that long, and then you can forget about it again! I don't know how beneficial its optimisation routine is, but it's presumably there for a reason.

I use that SanDisk utility on Windows 8.1, which won't natively TRIM FAT32 drives. Unfortunately it won't work on Windows XP. I can also TRIM my FAT32 SSDs using Rudolph Loew's DOS TRIM program (yes, really!)

Well I don't actually use OE on a day-to-day basis, I have always used Eudora as my e-mail client. I do use OE as an archive database for my very old e-mails however, having imported them from Eudora and then deleted the original mailboxes. OE certainly still seems to be working fine for me after the update, and reads the old mailboxes fine. I can't test sending and receiving as I just don't use it for that. The updated files from their names seem to be mainly to do with the address book, rather than the actual e-mail messages themselves.

It was KB3140709 which updated the Outlook Express files if you're interested.

WABIMP.DLL, WABFIND.DLL. and WABMIG.EXE in the Outlook Express folder were updated. They are now version 6.0.2900.7019. SECLOGON.DLL and OLEPRO32.DLL in the System32 folder seem to probably be related as well, judging my their original dates. They are now version 5.1.2600.7020. Those files were all from April 14th 2008, and are now stamped 11th February 2016, except for SECLOGON.DLL which is stamped 17th February 2016. One thing I forgot to mention earlier was that on my netbook, but not my main machine, I was asked to OK a license agreement for the Malicious Software Removal Tool, which I don't remember happening before. I recently restored the whole machine from a Windows 8.1 ISO backup (it's dual boot), which may have been the reason for that. This also destroyed all my update history, on 8.1 and XP, rather annoyingly!

Ten updates installed here, apparently all OK. The yellow shield never appeared on my main machine until I removed the registry key, and then after a reboot, it did appear, showing all the updates. My netbook, which did show the yellow shield before the key was removed, is still only showing two updates when the shield is clicked, despite having the key removed. MS Update is showing them all though. I guess the shield menu just takes a while to update. Quite a lot of files updated this time, including a batch of Outlook Express related files that were last updated in 2008!

OK, I'll give it a try. Strange though that I am seeing two security updates in MS Update, but I'm still not getting the yellow system tray icon from Automatic Updates. I've check my WindowsUpdate.log and there is no error line like that quoted in post #762. EDIT: I just checked my other computer, and that is showing the yellow shield, but only offering the two updates. MS Update was the same, so I removed the registry key and scanned again, and all the other updates appeared. Still no shield on my main machine though, but I will remove the key when it finishes what it's doing!

I don't have SP4 installed, but I do have that registry key. I'm still only seeing two updates on MS Update. Should i remove the key?

I just did a manual check on Microsoft Update, and all that was offered was the March 2016 Malicious Software Removal Tool, and one update for the Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack.

Actually, I've now had another thought about this. I also use ERUNT to back up my Windows 8.1 registry on the first boot of every day, and that is using an NTFS drive of course. I couldn't get it to work no matter what I tried using a startup folder shortcut, as I had always used in XP, and eventually I had to set it up to run from a Windows Scheduled Task, set with highest privileges. You may well need to do the same even with XP if it's on an NTFS drive.

Yes, that's probably it. I'm using FAT32 drives, so permissions are not an issue.

Strange, I do exactly the same thing myself, and it has always worked. This is my shortcut run properties - "C:\Utilities\Registry Utilities\NT Restore XP\AUTOBACK.EXE" D:\WIN-NT\RegBack\AutoBackup\#Date# sysreg curuser otherusers /noconfirmdelete /noprogresswindow /days:5Try using an absolute path instead of %SystemRoot%.

I've noticed that Opera 12.02 no longer puts up its popup notification at the bottom right when a download is completed. I assume that all such messages are now not working. It was fine using KernelEx 4.5.2015.10, and I'm pretty sure it was OK with 4.5.2015.11 too when I had the registry fix applied using the original files. I think it probably stopped working when I replaced the 4.5.2015.11 version of kexbasen.dll with the 4.5.2015.12 version to fix the startup problem. I will do some tests. I do seem to remember this Opera problem happening once before, but I can't remember what the fix was!

KEXBASEN.DLL 4.5.2015.12 will fix this, which you can download from the link in this post.

All fine here.

I agree with this. When I got involved in the long discussion about the various versions of EMET and how to install and configure them on XP, mainly with @heinoganda, who has been incredibly helpful to me with this, I quickly realised that we were getting very off-topic! It did seem relevant at the start as EMET was one of the recommended applications to install to maintain XP security, but the posts about it took over for a while. This thread should only be about getting official updates from Microsoft for our XP systems, using the POSReady and Embedded updates, and any problems with them.

I can see your concern Den. This thread will potentially be important for another three years! I also use Digital Spy forums, and they seem happy to let threads get up to many thousands of posts, but I can see why this might be a problem. They do split threads sometimes, but they do tend to just keep the original tile appended with "(Part 2)" or "(Part 3)" which is a bit boring! I don't really know that would be better I'm afraid, to keep that link with the original(s).

Am I missing something here, I thought Service Pack 4 included hotfixes, as well as the patch to allow future ones to be offered from Windows Update for hopefully several more years? This reminds me of the row a few years ago over on the Windows 98 board about a new Service Pack, which was accused of having the same issue, actually being more bloatware than a worthwhile security enhancement. The answer then was the same as the answer now, all features are optional. If you don't want some or all of any non-security extras offered, don't install them, simple as that!

I don't think many people will be mourning the final demise of IE6, a browser without even tabs! Such a shame that some versions of Windows use its files so much for other purposes, like Windows Explorer. Anyway, all today's offerings have been installed on my system with no apparent problems. I noticed that some files dating from 2008 have been updated!

Well as I'm still using Opera 12 as my main browser, which is now abandoned and hasn't been updated for several years, I guess I am leaving myself a bit at risk, but it's still my favourite browser by a country mile!