Dave-H

Office 2007 won't receive this update anyway, as it's out of support. I've now reinstalled KB2863821, and it is fine. I guess I'll just hide KB4461522 and hope a version that works appears next Tuesday, but I'm not holding my breath!

Thanks. It doesn't actually look as if the updates are that important, just something to do with changes to the Japanese calendar. I'm now being offered them both again. I suspect that @Mathwizis right, MS have indeed broken XP compatibility with KB4461522. I hope they fix it, and don't just say that XP isn't supported any more. I wasn't sure BTW whether to put this thread here or in the Office forum. As it almost certainly does only affect Office 2010 users running it on XP, I guess this was the right place, but mods do feel free to move it!

Microsoft Update offered me two suppsedly important updates for Office 2010 on Windows XP a couple of days ago, KB2863821 and KB4461522. They installed fine, but the next day I came to use Word, and it would not run, with the error message - Application popup: winword.exe - Entry Point Not Found : The procedure entry point GetDateFormatEx could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll. This was followed by "The operating system is not presently configured to run this application". I quickly found that no Office programs would now run, with the same error messages. I removed the two updates, and all returned to normal. I have no idea which of the updates caused the problem, and I haven't been offered either of them again so far, but if you are offered them, beware as they may well completely break your Office installation!

Yes, they do take a very long time to install, especially the updates for .NET 4. I've never had a problem installing them though.

They did. The last version I have is from August 2016, version 5.39.12900.0. You can come out now!

Quantum won't work on XP though, if it did we'd all be using it! I did try Maxthon a while ago, and while it was a very interesting browser (the ability to switch between using the Chromium rendering engine and the IE Trident engine was especially bizarre I thought!) it does use a very old version of Chromium, at least it did when I tried it, which IMO made it potentially less secure than Firefox 52.

Thanks, thank goodness it's not an intrinsic problem! I ran Firefox in Safe Mode (which I should have tried in the first place of course!) and it was fine. By process of elimination, I discovered that the problem was being caused by Adblock Plus, which had updated to a new version without me realising, which must have triggered the problem. I've disabled it on Facebook, and all is now fine. Why it was only causing a problem with Facebook and not apparently anywhere else is a mystery, but all is well again now!

Is anyone else using Firefox 52.9 ESR suddenly having terrible problems with Facebook? All other sites seem to be OK, but Facebook has suddenly become almost unusable, with constant freezing of the pages and indeed the whole browser. After a very long wait, Firefox eventually pops up a notice about an unresponsive script. If I close the script, the page response immediately returns to normal, but unfortunately the problem comes back immediately if I go to another page on Facebook. I just want to see if anyone else is seeing this, so I can try to eliminate if anything else on my system might be causing it. Thanks, Dave.

And me for two!

Thanks @heinoganda, I'll probably just leave the program in the internet security program's exceptions list rather than switch off any of its functions. It seems to be fine like that. Cheers and thanks again, Dave.

Thanks! Unfortunately, when I ran version 1.6, it was immediately blocked by my internet security program. It didn't actually delete the file, but it stopped it running. I've had to add it to the exceptions list. This has not happened with any previous version. Sadly the internet security program doesn't seem to have logged its action, so I can't see what it thought the problem was!

It's in the Naraeon\SSD Tools folder with all its other files, at least it is on my system! It's in my Services list as "Naraeon SSD Tools - SSD life alerter".

The SSD life monitoring driver NSTDiagSvc_New.exe crashes for me when the system boots. It slows down the boot and ends up not running. If I then run it manually it seems to start fine. Is anyone else finding this?

Sorry for the delay in responding, but yes, that additional entry fixed all the error messages!

Tried it out, it says that all of my SanDisk SSDs are unsupported!

Thanks, I added those entries and the error messages are gone! This is what I'm seeing now in HTTPSProxy - [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [23:28] 003 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/news?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 301 0 [23:28] 002 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 315 [23:28] 001 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest" 302 324 [23:28] 007 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 0 [23:28] 006 [D] "GET https://search.opera.com/?search={searchTerms}&global=no" 302 262 [23:28] 008 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&num=%i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 200 - [23:28] 009 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q={searchTerms}&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest" 200 - [23:28] 005 [D] "GET https://www.amazon.com/s/145-7872646-0478402?ie=UTF8&index=blended&keywords=%7BsearchTerms%7D&link_code=qs&tag=opera-20" 200 - [23:28] 010 [D] "GET https://www.google.com/sdch/4orahf3u.dct" 200 - [23:28] 010 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10053] An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://sync.opera.com:443/ [23:28] 004 [D] "GET https://com.com/" 200 - [23:28] 012 [D] "OPTIONS https://plex.tv/pms/:/ip None" 200 0 [23:28] 014 [D] "GET https://plex.tv/pms/:/ip" 200 15 [23:28] 013 [R][D] "GET https://plex.r.worldssl.net/announcements/announcements.json?cb=1538173710824" HTTPSConnectionPool(host='plex.r.worldssl.net', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /announcements/announcements.json?cb=1538173710824 (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 0x03772FB0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed',)) [23:28] 011 [D] "GET https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=Opera&hsimp=yhs-international&p=%7BsearchTerms%7D" 200 - [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://www.google-analytics.com:443/ [23:28] 007 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" 302 0 [23:28] 015 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:en" 200 - [23:28] 015 ProxHTTPSProxyMII RearProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10053] An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine [23:28] 016 [D] "GET https://search.yahoo.com/favicon.ico" 304 - [23:28] 015 [D] "GET https://news.google.com/search?q=%7BsearchTerms%7D&sourceid=opera&num=%25i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB:en" 200 - [23:28] 000 [D] SSL Pass-Thru: https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443/ [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [23:28] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] Still some apparent errors there, but nothing in the Windows logs. Cheers, Dave.

Yes, this is what I'm seeing in the HTTPSProxy console - [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 039 [D] "POST https://sync.opera.com/api/sync/command/?client=Opera&client_id=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 200 261 [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 022 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 023 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 041 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt?_=1538166666207" 200 123845 [21:31] 040 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt?_=1538166666206" 200 637620 [21:32] 042 [D] "POST https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com/ 1037" 200 - [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443][21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 039 [D] "POST https://sync.opera.com/api/sync/command/?client=Opera&client_id=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 200 261 [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 022 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 023 ProxHTTPSProxyMII FrontProxy/v1.4 [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] [21:31] 000 "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER] wrong version number (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [autoupdate.geo.opera.com:443] [21:31] 041 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt?_=1538166666207" 200 123845 [21:31] 040 [D] "GET https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt?_=1538166666206" 200 637620 [21:32] 042 [D] "POST https://autoupdate.geo.opera.com/ 1037" 200 - [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:5222] [21:32] 000 "[SSL: UNKNOWN_PROTOCOL] unknown protocol (_ssl.c:600)" while trying to establish local SSL tunnel for [push.opera.com:443] I guess this is the problem!

OK, I've found out what's triggering the error message, it happens now every time I run the Opera 36 browser. This is the last version which works on XP. I have sync enabled, and I can only assume that connecting to Opera's servers for this is causing the error message, but I have no idea why.

I'm now getting this intermittently in my Windows System log - Is this another certificates problem? The information in the data section of the error means nothing to me I'm afraid! I'm still getting problems in my Eudora e-mail program, despite using the certificate updater and HTTPSProxy. I had an e-mail from Plex the other day about some new offering, and it took literally nearly a minute to open in Eudora! The e-mails from Sky and Marks and Spencer only take about 30 seconds, but that's bad enough. They all look perfect once they're opened, but what could possible be taking so long to resolve when downloading them?!

Strange, the last update I've got that can't be removed is from 2010! I'm not sure why an update from 2013 is shown highlighted in that screen grab.

Thanks again Rudolph, yes I'll certainly give that a try if I'm still getting problems. I got a notification for your posts OK.

Thanks, I haven't knowingly changed my notifications for years, but I thought it was possible that the outage a few months ago might have scrambled things, so i checked, and it looks correct. Those are my settings, and they look like what I want, with a separate e-mail for every added post.

I got a notification for your post as well, but nothing for the previous eight before mine, but that may have been because I didn't visit the forum again until I next posted. Are the certificate errors you're seeing just about a name mis-match? If so, you can just switch those warnings off in the internet settings.

I've now set up a scheduled task to run @heinoganda's certificate updater automatically on Patch Tuesday every month. I'll leave the automatic updates turned off unless and until someone reports that it's fixed. I hadn't realised that they were doing the same thing anyway! When updates happen, is the old certificate information replaced with the new information, or will any old certificates that aren't in the new update remain on the system? Is anyone else getting e-mail notification from this thread BTW, as I don't seem to be, although I am getting them from other threads?

You've got me wondering now whether the notifications from MSFN do actually work that way! I know they do on some forums I subscribe to, but thinking about it I may well have had multiple notifications from the same thread in the past without having visited the thread.