forgive my father, cause I've sin... . For what it's worth, I meant that as I was slapping my own head in frustration, not slapping yours. And your comment was just a bit of a boiling over point for me. It's becoming an epidemic on these boards that people don't bother to READ before posting, it only ends up irritating the better contributers and (in some cases) drives them away. Nothing personal, that much I can assure you