Yep , agree , from what I gather from several people I know , who "upgraded" to win11 , you gotta have at least Alder Lake gen. to make it somewhat faster . All those core i5s with their older chipsets and older RAM tech just don't have enough bandwith in them . As I wrote before , I observe lots and lots of 2014 - 2016 (and even 2017-18!) PCs in our local dumpsters . With the release of Win 11 they started to upgrade businesses with the new tech and got rid of previous PCs this year. It's nothing new though ! It was the same with the previous generations , but this year there's no ruskies here (thank God!) who usually grabbed them out of garbage for the purpose of reselling on ebay , etc.