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Working in this release -- basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230729-3219d2d-uxp-bdc6b90572-xpmod

Broken in this release -- basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230930-3219d2d-uxp-7a3845abaf-xpmod

I'm bumping this to bring it back to @roytam1's attention. I'll post additional screencaps shortly and will attempt to isolate "when" this started happening. Still happening in yesterday's release: This is the last known WORKING version (over a year old, I will attempt to isolate WHEN this feature was broken): This version reveals that this feature has been broken with ALL of the 2024 releases:

While I agree, I have to wholly and completely DISAGREE with this "the sky is falling approach". You present the paradigm that CNAME cloaking is an "everyday occurrence" - I HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER WITNESSED ONE. I have to basically browse with ALL of my "defenses" DISABLED and can only find a .fr example. No .com examples. No .net examples. No .org examples. Before we can proceed further, PLEASE PROVIDE A FEW REAL-LIFE EXAMPLES! Not this "the sky is falling" tactic of THEORETICAL HYPERBOLE. Let's be perfectly honest - IF this were an "issue" as gigantic as your hype and propaganda makes it out to be, then Firefox's marketshare would have SURGED since 2020 or so when BRAVE used this HYPE to boost their marketshare. Which didn't really work. I have NEVER, in REAL-LIFE, met ANYONE that uses BRAVE. Again, I HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS A REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE. I would love for a LIST of examples. And they can NOT be .fr web sites, I am an English-speaking US citizen that NEVER visits .fr web sites. It has to be a .com for me to take it "seriously". HYPE AND PROPAGANDA. THEORETICAL HYPERBOLE.

While not as foolproof as Chromium+Proxomitron or Firefox+uBO, according to https://github.com/AdguardTeam/cname-trackers, using "AdGuard Tracking Protection filter" or "EasyPrivacy" lists in Chromium+uBO is adequate protection for most users. To be honest, I have never actually ran into a cloaked CNAME with my default setup! I have to INTENTIONALLY let my guard down to find them (enable third-party cookies, allow third-party scripts, disable uMatrix entirely, disable Proxomitron, et cetera).

You falsely assume that Firefox+uBO is the "only" way to prevent CNAME cloaking. IT ISN'T! I use PROXOMITRON and despite nobody else here at MSFN being a Proxo User, it can detect and prevent canonical connections. Here's one example. The web site htt ps:// www. mathon .fr has a CNAME Cloaked connection to cdn. shopify .com that my PROXOMITRON blocks. How is this (Chromium+Proxomitron) any different than Firefox *NEEDING* uBO to perform this block? Either way you dice it, the BROWSER itself did not block the canonical connection! The end-user needed to be SMART ENOUGH to ADD something to their browser (which both you and I obviously do).

Agreed, I've never used the "Import Wizard". But what does it do when you click NEXT? Does it then pop up another dialog for an .html file that you EXPORTED from Chrome (for example, I don't recall what IE "exports").

I have been experimenting with Firefox v128 (just now noticed it needs updated, but these metrics will be close to identical). A hellashish and resounding NO! (and apologies, I did not intend to turn this into a "browser war" thread - "been there, done that", there is a REASON (several) that I no longer use Firefox!) But not to be misread - I still have an interest else I wouldn't be following this thread. Look at my Serpent RAM usage - 1.24 GB with only TWO tabs open [I've seen this as high as FOUR GIGABYTES] (Gmail and Google Voice [which only works for chat, not for phone calls in Serpent]). Firefox v128 with no tabs open and only ONE extension (uBO) = 172.8 + 310.2 + 20.5 + 37.6 + 33.9 + 88.5 + 36.5 + 28.5 + 28.5 + 28.5 == 785.5 MB Ungoogled v122 with no tabs open and only ONE extension (uBO) = 4.27 + 61.5 + 19.6 + 13.6 + 11.2 + 28.1 + 41.8 + 16.0 == 196.1 MB

I used to think the same thing. GOT FED UP with maintaining two profiles, keeping track of which bank account won't work in what, which can do Gmail but the other not do Google Voice, which can YouTube at 1080 versus 480, which can MS Teams, et cetera. TIME IS TOO PRECIOUS. I WANT *ONE* BROWSER THAT CAN DO *EVERYTHING*.

Very familiar. That's what we use at work for our lab bench computer images. Our factory floor assembly line computers are also all imaged via Acronis.

As do I! AutoIt is your friend. Me "reinstalling" Windows is like watching a movie. Insert the DVD, press a key to boot from DVD, then everything is completely AUTOMATED. TONNES of mofications... TONNES of special settings... AutoIt moves the mouse around, clicks here, clicks there, NO INTERVENTION once I press that key to boot from DVD. But yeah, it took YEARS of EVOLUTION to PERFECT. And thousands of installs to test, get 10% through to find something needs a dialog set to "stay on top", next install get 15% through to discover that the mouse reference "origin" changed screens, et cetera. Once perfected, it's literally like watching a movie. Sit back, grab a cold beverage, and watch the computer do ALL the work, completely unattended, fully automated.

I do that also. Just not for my "primary" comptuer. When something afflicts it, I want it back up-and-running in 20 minutes. My primary has all updates slipstreamed, I don't install Windows then spend the next four hours running updates. All of my third-party programs have been converted to sfx archives that only need "silent install" (unpacked). Add some .reg files and whoala. Everything is back to "normal" in 20 minutes. But when a friend or neighbor asks me to fix theirs, I could care less if it takes 20 DAYS and I tell them that on Day One.

Nor for me. We view "time" differently. You spent days getting up-and-running. I would have been up-and-running in 20 minutes. Though, to be fair, you weren't "down" either, this was a secondary partition and you have a tablet &/or phone also.

A quick DNS-watch on roytam's New Moon 28 shows ZERO telemetry. Same goes for feodor's MyPal 27 (not a typo, aware that there is a 68). But I honestly do not recall if I had to jump through hoops to get them to ZERO telemetry as those two browser profiles are quite old. At any rate, keep up the good work on r3dfox.

Unsure. It is my experience that Firefox users turn a blind eye and simply "do not care". Yet will shout the loudest that their browser is the best on the planet and "claim" that they have painstakingly tweaked their profile to prevent telemetry (not likely, but "if it helps you sleep better at night"). Again, I say that in full pessimistic disclosure! I was once a die-hard Firefox-only type, "takes one to know one". But I also fully disclose that I have not yet tried user.js I would highly PREFER screencaps revealing before-and-after from other MSFN members that HAVE used this user.js trick. But I won't hold my breath and it is on my curiosity-to-do-list.

There is this, but I have not tested telemetry connections with this installed. https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox/blob/main/user.js I admit that I am skeptic but it has been recently on my back-burner very-low-priority to-do-list.

Me neither! And to be fair, the nearly TWO HUNDRED telemetry connections is an UPSTREAM FIREFOX ISSUE. Anybody that uses any "forks" of Firefox should never assume that their fork isn't making the same exact UPSTREAM telemetry connections. I once tried SRWare Iron and it was always touted as privacy-conscious, I saw just as many telemetry connections in it, just to different domains! Granted, I cannot speak for current versions of SRWare Iron. There was once even a linked article here at MSFN for a very good web site that discussed these. Just too lazy to track it down at the moment.

I use that utility! Some other good ones are RegistryChangesView by Nirsoft, ProcMon and RegMon by Sysinternals, and Thinstall (this one is now owned by VMware and is called ThinApp).

I would sincerely hope that this was already tried! Not necessarily "uninstalled", but disabled or in INCOGNITO MODE.

AWESOME !!! One more reason why I do not, never have, and never will install any "anti-virus" or "anti-malware" programs! I've always also preferred REFORMAT and REINSTALL versus relying on "uninstall and hunt for left-behinds". Glad you got to the bottom of it!

Strange indeed. When you right-click and "inspect", do you see any difference in their <a> or <img> content? I do! And they reveal that it really still could be something on YOUR computer! Something on YOUR computer may be blocking anything-everything alt="spacer.png" or data-ratio= as a GENERIC ADVERTISEMENT.

I did give r3dfox a trial-run a week or two ago. I witnessed close to 200 telemetry connections on first launch. Dropped to 100-some on second launch. I do recall installing uBlock (but not Adblock) and seeing no effect on these telemetry connections. That's basically where my trial-run was cancelled and I did a thorough cleaning of my computer because the "portable" version writes to system folders and to the registry. For your Adblock behaving as though not installed, is it possible to see a screencap?

As far as my Thorium and Supermium and 360Chrome and Ungoogled first-launch crashes on XP x64 and only on nVidia GPU computers. I "thought" these crashes were 100% of first-launches. Turns out, it is closer to 65-70% of first-launches. I did try to video-capture a first-launch crash last night, but the failure rate had me not spending the time to start video-capture each and every first-launch. For one, my only remaining XP machines are ABSOLUTE JUNK, SLLOOWWW POS, et cetera! For two, I was in a bit of a "wtf" mood when trying to capture and a first-launch NOT crashing - because I thought they were 100%, they are not. This does remain true - I never get that first-launch crash if I keep the "vulkan" files. Though this recent round of investigation reveals I only need to keep ONE of the two "vulkan" files. At any rate, I'm hereby ending this investigation for the time being. I no longer use 360Chrome and Thorium/Superium is only on my radar for future-use if-and-only-if one-or-both becomes "ungoogled".

I'm kind of taking UCyborg's word on this. I personally have no insight here. At any rate, I'm kind of moving on now. Good discussion though.