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At least three 404's (out of only six attempted downloads). Didn't track which files were 404's.

Was just "thinking out loud".

I haven't gotten that far yet - but here is the vision I have for this project -- spoof specific browser engines! Not sure if that is even possible, but I see that as being what the future really needs. Doesn't matter if you are running NM27, NM28, St52, St55, 360Chrome v11, v12, v13, v13.5, Pale Moon, Official Chrome, Official Firefox - be able to trick Cloudfare servers into thinking we are on anything we want to spoof. Because the end user USED TO be able to do that just by changing their User Agent - this no longer works with the "modern web".

Yep, it is working with and without spaces using the second set of files. My tests have been somewhat limited so far. Correction - see PM.

I have most of my VM's set up to access a "shared" .vdi "hard drive". So my VM x86 was seeing everything at "E:\ProxHTTPSProxy_REV3e_PopMenu_3V1" whereas my host machine (x64) was seeing everything at "C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\ProxHTTPSProxy_REV3e_PopMenu_3V1". I think we can all be on one PM. That way none of us report something we find that somebody else already found.

Dave-H beat me to the punch. I knew it wasn't working in my x64 and that it was working in my x86 VM - didn't narrow it down to path names though. Good catch.

I'm personally of the view that some sort of local proxy is the ONLY way to solve the Cloudfare issue. A local proxy that can "appear" to be anything we want it to "appear" to be. Which FAR exceeds some third-grader knowing how to spoof a User Agent. It's above my skill level though

Credits to "BackStop" extension that was later revised by a different user to "Backstay" extension. This prevents the "Backspace" key on the keyboard from being used as a shortcut for the "Back" browser button (a hard-coded default shortcut that cannot be edited via normal browser settings or shortcut extensions). // ==UserScript== // @name Disable Backspace // @version 3.0.1 // @include http://* // @include https://* // @require http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/2.1.4/jquery.js // @run-at document-start // ==/UserScript== var backstayCurrentLocation; $(document).keydown(function(e) { // If backspace is pressed if (e.which === 8) { var active = $(document.activeElement); notEditable = function(element) { var edit = element.attr('contenteditable'); // Ensure backspace still works on any element with contenteditable="true" if (typeof edit !== 'undefined' && edit !== false) { return true; } else if (element.is('input, textarea')) { return true; } else if (active.attr('type') == 'application/x-shockwave-flash' || active.attr('type') == 'application/x-silverlight-2') { return true; } return false; } return notEditable(active); window.onbeforeunload = function() { return "Backstay: Are you sure you want to navigate away?"; } } });

H#ll yeah it is. Software modifications are always achievable! If it weren't, we wouldn't even "have" these "ArcticFoxie versions" or these "Humming Owl versions". But that doesn't mean that everybody's vision of what to customize and what not to customize "is worth the time" to undertake.

"amy" (the creator of Proxomitron Reborn) was going to look into "spoofing" the 'fingerprint' that Cloudfare uses but that was several months ago and I've never heard any status so I can only assume the project died before it even left the ground.

Yep, sure have. I used it to resolve SSL issues with Proxomitron. My browser has changed since then. And Proxomitron is now "Proxomitron Reborn".

Cool. File received. Would you prefer feedback in this thread or via PM?

I could test also, if you'd like a couple beta testers.

This has been the norm as far as the "modern web". Spoofing UA is basically a waste of time nowadays.

Possibly. But I cannot spend the hours to find that needle in a haystack. All I can suggest is that the .srx files in the skin folder are just .zip files with an .srx extension. Unzip the .srx skin files and then hunt for things like "ltr" (left-to-right) strings or things like "layout_gravity=left" strings in the hundreds of .xml files.

I see zero reason to do it that way. No other browser that I am aware of does it that way, why should we make 360Chrome do it that way?

You have to remember that people here and other tech-savvy forums are a teeny tiny miniscule percentage of the computer-owner population. How many active members does MSFN have? I'd put it in the HUNDREDS and nowhere near "thousands". But let's call it a THOUSAND and then let's assume one HUNDRED web sites such as this where "birds of a feather, flock together". So that puts us at 100,000. Depending on source, between 297 and 302 million computers (desktops and laptops, excludes servers) shipped in 2020 - safe to assume they are all alive and well, but let's go ahead and kill off a gigantic 40% of them. Depending on source, between 340 and 349 million computers shipped in 2021 - safe to assume they are all alive and well, but let's go ahead and kill off a massive 20% of them. Call it 300 million for 2020 but kill off 40% of them, that leaves 180 million of them in use. Call it 345 million for 2021 but kill off 20% of them, that leaves 276 million of them in use. So that's 456 million computers just purchased in the last two years alone and we even killed off a gigantic number of them, we're not counting computers like mine that are well over 15 years old! I personally feel it safe to assume that only members of forums such as this even CARE about "bloat", that if a computer-user isn't a visitor of something like MSFN, then they just run their OS "out of the box, with all defaults". Estimating the population that DOES know what "bloat" is and visits forum such as this at 100,000 then those 100,000 is a teeny tiny petty 0.0219% of 456 million. That percentage only shrinks shrinks shrinks when you use more realistic numbers (ie, don't only count two years of computers sold, don't kill off 20% sold per year, et cetera). We really are an extremely TINY segment and I think we sometimes think we are larger then we really are. Granted, I've made assumptions left and right in this "analysis", but you get the drift. We are a teeny tiny miniscule segment of society and nobody in their right might would conduct a business model taylored around "us" (ie, Moonchild should not bring back XP support, no matter how much "we" think he should). Okay, that was fun... LOL

Please describe your question with a PICTURE.

It's in the "Modified Notes" .txt file. If you want changes from one release to the next, you will have to compare to a previously downloaded "Modified Notes" .txt file.

I'm thinking more like 3.5 years. Windows 10 was released in July 2015. It was December 2018 that Windows 10 finally had a higher market share than Windows 7. https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/microsoft-s-windows-10-has-finally-overtaken-decade-old-windows-7-os-story-859cf4eZ2TTOYrWDv9W5mL.html My hunch is that Windows 11 will overtake Windows 10 faster than Windows 10 overtook Windows 7. Demographics. Population density of age groups.

Upon review, I will not be releasing any modifications to the "se" (Secure Browser) or "gt" (Game Browser) branches and will only stick with the "ee" (Extreme Explorer) branches. The 13.6 branch is only available as a "Game Browser" version. The 13.5 branch seems to be available in both "Secure Browser" and "Extreme Explorer" versions. The 13.1 branch was never pursued here at MSFN and partly because it is the "Secure Browser" version as opposed to the "Extreme Explorer" version that basically all English mods (that I'm aware of) all stem from.

I'm only finding the CSE branch and not the EE branch. https://down.360safe.com/cse/360cse_13.5.2001.0.exe

Download links for future reference -- https://down.360safe.com/gt/360gt13.6.1000.0.exe https://down.360safe.com/gt/360gt13.6.1047.0.exe

True. I wouldn't call it a "real" title bar. It doesn't use "system settings" - but neither does "real" Chrome I can only speak for XP. I've never used a "real" Chrome on Win7 or Win10. I think Chrome calls it "headless" (tabs where title bar is supposed to be) - but whatever you call it, I don't like it I've actually "downgraded" one of my computers from XP to 7 and another from XP to 10 - but I haven't decided if I'll even use 360Chrome on these two computers or not.

Not to speak for him, but he knows. He has "modern" web sites like his gym and where he buys food that do not work with v11 so he needs v13 or higher. We are all going to have different needs and different priorities on those needs. I myself need v13 or higher to pay my water bill or for a Wordle word-finder, but v11 works for everything else so I run v11 as my "default", run v13 for my water bill, and run NM28 for Wordle word-finder.