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Agreed. I think Commodo has HIPS but I honestly do not recall. (edit - I no longer use firewall or anti-virus - none, naughta, zip. I did use Commodo Firewall for several years and it was [been several years] very fast and efficient. But I grew to dislike even a fast and efficient "bottleneck" for my computer needs.)

And is that better or worse than other 360Chrome v13.5 builds ???

I read several of the "keep" arguments for the Firefox Wikipedia and I kind of see most as irrelevant. The vast majority of the "keep" arguments seem to come from what I would call an "activist movement" or "lench mob" mentality, subjective over objective. I don't see it as a total summation of "keep" versus "delete" - not if the "keeps" just keep saying the same exact thing over and over again, that's just "one" keep that paid a mob to show up and carry cardboard signs, misspellings and all. Not to be misread, it is disappointing to see the Wikipedia changelog for Chrome vanish, I used it OFTEN. But using it and objectively arguing that it should remain are not really one in the same.

Nothing is stopping anyone from grabbing the most recent Wayback "changelog" and starting their own Chrome and Firefox "changelog" here at MSFN.

Agreed! Operating Systems should not have "features" - NONE. If I want a "snipping tool", I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want a "firewall", I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want an antivirus "defender", I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want a "candy crush" kiddy game, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want "3D" paint or printer apps, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want "people" contacts right on the taskbar, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want to "share" files, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want an all-in-one sytem-level "Cortana" tracking, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want to "sync" files, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. If I want my Start Menu to feed me advertisements, I'll add it myself from available third-party apps. The Operating System should just "operate", bloatfree. Something like that...

Nope, because whomever it was bragged about his 100th post. Then somebody pointed out that it only took THREE DAYS. My guess is that moderators stepped in, "warned him", and he voluntarily abandoned MSFN after the "warning". Who knows, as I wasn't here 20 years ago.

Whomever it was hit 99 posts in 7 days.

Too funny. A member from over 20 years ago that was only here for a week.

I propose a 4th (the category of which I fall within) - 4) Your topics are read by the majority herein but replying only perpetuates the stigma of MSFN's transformation from what people claim it used to be, a claimed existence which predates my membership herein and I have never witnessed any strict adherence towards in any "topical" forum I've ever been a member thereof. Tangents and off-topics are always always always present on all all all "topical" forums. Something like that...

While I feel your pain, so to speak, we have to abide by the moderator's consensus and trust that if the random posts violated MSFN rules, written or otherwise, then the every one would be banned for doing so. Since the every one has not been banned, then we have to assume that the moderator's are "okay" with the random posts.

Is there a full list somewhere of just how many functions the experimental flag enables?

Ah, read as to "why" it's deleted. I say yeah, delete Firefox's also. Perhaps "delete" isn't the correct word - edit it for release dates but axe the "changelog". Changelogs should be a developer's website, not taking up space on a public resource. Just my two cents.

That doesn't make any sense, why delete it? Other than they both update so d@mn often (excessive IMO) that it's become a FULL TIME JOB just to keep Wikipedia updated!

"Not my problem", lol. Like I have to tell my brother each and every time he sends me a Twitter, Facebook, or Tik-Tok link - they are blocked on my system "without prejudice". But blocking "Google Trends" is like blocking MSN's "news feed", IMO. Point is, don't all search engines have a "trends" page?

Real "success" would be to make it to the top of Google Trends for your location (France) -- https://trends.google.com/trends/trendingsearches/daily?geo=FR&hl=en-US

Um, why even monitor search engine listing order? Certainly not my definition of success. Why? Because this thread (until I chimed in) was really only you talking to yourself and some of us (myself included) reading it but not commenting (this isn't new news, those of us that block fonts "know" this already). Success would be if 5, 10, 20 "new" members signed up and posted in this thread. All you really did is "time" your entry with some web crawlers that scour the 'net every few hours and found the precise and exact search query to isolate this thread. That's not really that difficult. Hint - multiple words in your search query always always always bring the right content to the top of the list. Just my two cents, lol.

ps - I can't guarantee that the overclocked AMD would pass the OptiPlex or the Pavilion, it *might* but wouldn't know without "bench testing".

The Dell OptiPlex i5-12500T wins in this ilst hands down. Followed by the HP Pavilion i7-10700F. Third "factory" is the AMD Ryzen 3 3100 - but if you are going to overclock, then this moves to the top of the list (I personally no longer overclock, "been there, done that").

Agreed! Firefox has never had a market share of 40% - it peaked at just under 32% and will likely never return to exceeding even 5% due to the MacOS/Safari rise. Here's a nice animated chart for browser market share -- https://www.visualcapitalist.com/internet-browser-market-share/ November 2020 -- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/StatCounter-browser-ww-monthly-202011-202011-bar.png

Agreed, same here. I also use the referenced "structuredClone()".

i'm not familiar Armand Gracious, but I read it as jaclaz being sarcastic due to the date on the Armand Gracious article.

I would suggest not "installing" but rather extract TWICE with 7-Zip. Extract the .exe to get to the .7z inside. Extract that .7z. Overwrite the "existing installation" with those files.

That's why none of my systems have a "default" web browser - NONE. So when an "installer" tries to connect to the internet, IT CAN NOT because there is no "default" web browser for it to "go through". You need a "parent-based" firewall - that will tell you EXACTLY what triggered your Firefox to make a connection. I used to use an OLDER version of Commodo Firewall that was PERFECT for just this. I'd have to dig though some archives to find it. With a PARENT-BASED firewall, your Firefox is allowed access to the internet when launched via a desktop shortcut or via the start menu, but it is DENIED access if an "updater" launches it. The firewall would also block a new tab from accessing the internet if you already have a properly launched Firefox open and that "updater" opens a new tab. Then you would have the "updater" IDENTIFIED because the parent-based firewall would tell you the exact PATH of what launched it. I suspect Nirsoft might have something to track the trigger also, unsure.