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2 minutes ago, mina7601 said:
The original poster of the topic has been banned (because the software list doesn't look legit), so, your suggestion won't be considered, but, good to know Office 365 installed with no errors for you on 8.1.
Oh, I didn‘t know. I didn‘t wanted to post it on the Windows 7 topics site and there was no other Win8 topic regarding Office
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Strangely, if you download and install a version of Office 365, where you can still join the Insider Program (below 2301), it will install the latest (2303) without any errors on Windows 8.1. They officially ended support with 2301
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I recently found my old Laptop (Acer Aspire One 725 from July 2012) in the attic and wanted to make a clean install of Windows 7 on it, since it had a heavily bloated Windows 10 1703 installed, which I don‘t wanted to even try fixing.
The only problem I face is if I try installing Windows 7 (with Secure Boot Update integrated) on my Notebook it hangs up after doing the first reboot on the installation. The Windows 7 logo just keeps shining but it won‘t continue the rest of the setup. When I switch from UEFI to Legacy and use a MBR formatted Stick, it works fine. However, I want to know if there is a way in how to install Windows 7 in UEFI with Secure Boot on this notebook.
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22 hours ago, msquidpl said:
I will mod x86 versions
Early build of 112 version on Win 8:
But at this moment my priority is run 111.5563 on Windows 7.
The biggest problem in the newest builds is NtQueryInformationProcess function probably.
Great job! Wow - thank you soo much.
I never thought that someone would find a solution to this soo fast, considering that it was years after Google ended Chrome on Vista, that we got newer versions for it
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10 hours ago, msquidpl said:
It's working when I used DWrite.dll from Windows 10, but crashes after while. Older builds of Chromium like 5550 working good with this dll.
How do you use DWrite from 10? Did you replace kernel32.dll ?
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5 hours ago, msquidpl said:
Chromium 111.0.5500.0 working on Windows 7!!!
Edit: Chrome 110.0.5481.104 works
Congrats, very nice work dude!
I think v111 - up to 5520 was working on 8.1 with the —no-sandbox hack as well. You think we could port pack newer builds or even v112 to 7/8.1 ? It has that weird DiscardVirtualMemory dependence that is missing on older versions
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My guess: Firefox 115 will be the last major update. From then on 7/8.1 users will only receive Security Updates till August/October 2024.
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On 1/18/2023 at 3:14 AM, WinCare said:
Thanks for installing Office 2013 on Windows Vista, but anyways can you install Office 2016, Office 2019 or Office 2021 on Windows Vista even by spoofing Windows 7 or Windows 10?
Not even Windows 7 can run Office 2021
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Chromium 112 is out now. Has anyone tried it on Windows 8.1 ?
EDIT: Just tried it out and it will no longer open up anymore. It gives me the error "DiscardVirtualMemory" couldn't be located in chrome.dll
I looked that function up and it was introduced in Windows 8.1, so I quite don't get why that error pops up. Tried the same build out on Windows 11 and it worked
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2) I am not quite into 8.0 but I think .net Framework 4.8 should definitly be compatible, since it can be installed on Vista too. I just think you have to install the one that was offered to Server 2012 R1, by modifying the installer
3) I actually used IE as my main browser till at least the end of 2017/early 2018, but I wouldn't waiste my time and patience with endlessly patching that Dinosaur. Back in the days, I desperatly tried to find ways in how to backport IE10 to Vista, but even I noticed that it won't change much. Websites will still not render properly and you can't access modern media sites, like Spotify. I mean IE11 can be sideloaded, there was a way described in this forum, but I don't think it is worth doing. Go with Edge if you really want to have IE's legacy living up, but otherwise Chrome, Opera or Firefox.
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7 hours ago, D.Draker said:
For those who were seeking "official" confirmation.
Opera finally admits they lied . After I pressured them ? I dunno.
A reminder : 96 is based on chrome 110, which I ported to Vista.
https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/changelog-for-96/
"DNA-104390 Remove Windows 7, 8 support ..."
https://msfn.org/board/topic/184249-chrome-110-based-opera-i-ported-it-to-vista/
All of your predictions seemed to be true. I would say I am dissapointed but I already had a bad gut feeling after you first told us about their lies.
Well, then it is really up to these Forums here again to try fixing what Google and Microsoft try to destroy. How is it that they say "it is too hard to port things back to 7/8.1, since Google already removed their codes"' without even trying? They're just bad liars and never really attended to do so.
Again, thanks @D.Draker @win32 and everyone, who participate in finding ways how to keep up using modern software on those OS. Great job guys
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3 hours ago, win32 said:
I found that there are ultimately four reasons why Chromium is broken on NT 6.x:
1. New imports in kernel32 and userenv. They can all be stubbed, not hard to fix. (Vista/7; 8.x has them)
2. Use of job object APIs in ways that are only supported on 8.x (without sandbox) and 10 (with sandbox)
3. Use of new NtQueryInformationProcess class for enumerating process handles; if it can't be used, the content process will be terminated (8.0 and below, sandbox only)
4. Use of new DirectWrite factories, like IDWriteFactory3, which was introduced in Windows 10
#1 is taken care of, I'm getting there with #2 and then I should be able to do #3. #4's solution is actually quite simple; copy over a Windows 10 DWrite.dll to use with Chromium using DLL redirection methods (I used 10.0.17763.1 and I think 10240 and up should work too). Then patch these DLL names in the import table with a hex editor or CFF explorer:
api-ms-win-core-libraryloader-l1-2-0.dll -> kernel32.dll
api-ms-win-core-localization-l1-2-2.dll -> kernel32.dllThis is sufficient to run the latest Chromium browser snapshot on Windows 8:
Right now there are truly missing functions on Windows Vista and 7, in api-ms-win-core-delayload-l1-1-0.dll and api-ms-win-core-delayload-l1-1-1.dll. Some of those return function pointers so they can't be stubbed.
Dude I can't say it often enough: Your the best!
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4 hours ago, mina7601 said:
It was already confirmed that this was lying from Opera developers and not true.
Huh did I miss something? Was there an official announcement?
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20 hours ago, recapir said:
I'm typing this on W8.1 running Chrome 111.0.5542.0, so it still works. I've found that after rev 5520 many of Chrome's internal pages will cause it to crash. The worst offender being chrome://newtab because I use it often. If Chrome is crashing when launched it's either because its trying to restore a previous session with an offending page or its starting a new instance with newtab. The workaround is to downgrade to 5520 and install one of several available extensions that redirects chrome://newtab to another website.
You can try this one or this other one. But theres a bunch of others.
Thanks @win32 and you for responding to my matter.
I also noticed that if you have a Chromium build below 5520 installed and attend to open a Chromium (zip) that has a higher build number, it will actually launch. However, not only the New Page- but also the Settings page won‘t open and Chromium will immediately crash.
Is there any way in how to avoid those crashs? Same is obviously happening with Edge/Chrome and Opera also still not works in Dev Builds, although they stated that they will keep 7/8.1 Support up
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On 12/11/2022 at 11:38 PM, mina7601 said:
Well, there's already a suggestion for support for Windows 8.1 here: https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex/issues/44
I also want that Tool for Windows 8.1, since Google Chrome for example still works on Windows 8.1 but they implemented something in the latest builds, where the Browser instantly crashes when it it launched on 8.1. If there is a way to spoof Windows 10, Chrome/Chromium would still work.
The --no-sandbox hack no longer works !
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5 minutes ago, legacyfan said:
the best option now for continuing to use chrome on 7-8.1 would be to just not go to any suspicious website and always use an ad blocker (at least that should work)
Use —no-sandbox on 8.1
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So, Windows 7 ESU and 8.1 died today?
Just kidding, I will sideload official, non-paid Server 2012 R2 Updates to my 8.1 machine till October 2023. Windows 7 ESU might have ended, but Pos Ready 7 is still up till October 2024.
Another very interesting thing I read today was that Microsoft implemented Secure Boot into Windows 7 with it‘s last Security Patch. I wonder why they did that but does this mean I can now install Windows 7 on newer devices that doesn‘t support Legacy BIOS?
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I just noticed that Chromium put further effort into breaking compatibility with Windows 8.1 on v111. When you try to use any version higher than 111.0.5220 the mini installer will no longer install it, which means that you will need to download the Chrome/Chromium zip file in order to access it. The browser still works on 5521+ BUT I noticed that once you go into Settings, Chromium immediately closes and won't open again, no matter what you do, even with the --no-sandbox hack.
Still no workaround, although browsing is still fine and so on but, as I said earlier, I think compatibility will be fully broken with the upcoming versions (112+)
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On 6/3/2022 at 1:18 PM, LonghornXP said:
1. go and celebrate
2. "upgrading" 7 to Vista
3. install all Vista updates and install Server 2008 ESU
4. install ExKer (extended kernel)
5. install newer programs (such as firefox, chrome, gimp, office 2016, vscode, and 7's paint)
6. i just need to happy with Vista
Wait you got Office 2016 running on Vista?
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On 1/4/2023 at 7:19 PM, Tangy said:
They might provide security patches for a while, even thought I doubt it.
https://forums.opera.com/topic/58446/will-opera-also-ends-support-for-windows-7-and-8-1/9
Cheers
On 1/3/2023 at 8:43 PM, HarryTri said:Opera still works on Windows 8 (the latest version). Isn't Opera chrome-based too?
Windows 8(.1) still supports the latest Chromium. There has just been a code/flag/etc. (idk) added that prevents Chromium 110+ to start on Windows 8. If you add a —no-sandbox to the properties however, you can use it normally again. Sadly, this does not apply to Windows 7, as they introduced Kernel functions only available in W8+Since Windows 7 has a higher usage and impact, they surely wanted to make it completely broken on it, rather than on Windows 8, where they only added something preventing the program from starting up.
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Off Topic: I just received an update on Office 365 on my Windows 8.1 machine and it's now running on Build 2302. I think we can assume that this will be the last feature drop for Windows 8.1, as Office Insider is already grayed out since 2301. I already received a few errors from the Installer when I tried installing it on a Clean 8.1 machine. They disappeared after updating the machine. Since there will be no Security Updates, like Windows 7 receives with 2002, I will try to look if newer versions (2303+) can be ported back to 8.1 in near future
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20 hours ago, D.Draker said:
I'm against discussing the hacks in the open for such obvious reasons.
Would be very pathetic from their side, since it‘s their own software. If they read our forums to find their mistakes, they‘re not good developers. Nonetheless, they can feel free to block that hack if they want to. There are many smart brains around here, like @win32 or you, who achieved to backport newer software to older OS
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1 hour ago, D.Draker said:
Imagine I loved win 7/8, like you, I 'd start to bombard that terrible liar, the "developer" with e-mails, posts and shaming him at his forum.
What he does is scam, pure and simple.
As Opera is not my main browser, I am not really surprised or shocked. I‘m still optimistic and stick to their words. I will wait and see if they really fix compatibility and if not, then I will „bombard“ them with e-mails
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Last Versions of software to properly work on 8.1
in Windows 8
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Strangely, if you download and install a version of Office 365, where you can still join the Insider Program (below 2301), it will install the latest (2303) without any errors on Windows 8.1. They officially ended support with 2301