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Another lame, uneducated Microsoft excuse... this was true when Memory was a scarce resource, as well as R/W speeds of mechanical HDD, not so much today and redundent. Just willful ignorance. There is absolutely no need for any application(s) to be cached into ram these days with the speed of SSD and Memory. Memory ought to be cleared immediatly after the program is no longer needed, or idle. I wouldn't mind Windows using as much memory as it does if I had 8GB of memory, or more, but that's BESIDE the point! I can run Ubuntu or other systems with far LESS memory usage than what Windows does, unfortuneately, but I'm stuck with Windows as most of my apps require the OS. @MagicAndre, I usually use Rammap and PE to isolate issues. I'll post Rammap when I get a chance. Though, I'm not sure what your intention of me posting an image is, as the system is not infected and has bare minumal applications running at startup. Still W8.1, or earlier, tend to use more memory than they ought to... W8.1 for example, upon boot uses up nearly 1.6GB>greater durectly after boot. Ridiculous. Once I clear mapped files I'll get it down to 1.1GB. Windows should be actively scanning Windows and purging memory when an application / service is idle or no longer needed. If an application explicitly requires more memory, the memory will always be there, no need for anything to be cached unless it is an "active" process.

I stated I have an official copy, never stated what you posted wasn't "official." Yes, removing languages is neccessary as I don't want a cluttered OS with useless files that will take up MY Hard drive space. If I want ENGLISH on my system, that will be the ONLY language on the system. If I wanted French, Hebrew or any other language I'll install it myself. Language files can take up to 500-1000mb on a system at least, not only does it fuck up the directory listings. If the link you posted provides images with SINGULAR languages then I appologize. I'm just fed up with Microsoft inability to actually fix their god **** shit and properly relay the fixes without ambiguous bul*****. Anyway, vlite obviously removed something it shouldn't have. Unless the SP recognized

Is there any way to force Windows 8 / 8.1 to force a mapped file from memory? I know it's possible using a 3rd party app like Mem Reduct or Wise Memory Optimizer. I guess the real question is why can't Windows actively do this on its own? If a file is not in use, then why hog system resources?

Thanks, but I have the "official" version of W7 without SP1, I also have SP1 downloaded so I can slipstream it. I'm looking for answers and a resolution to this error, not the standard microsoft statement "reinstall".... that's just willful ignorance.

Had me thinking of old technology.... today you could make a working turn table out of practically nothing! CPU fan motor (adjustable speed) > home speakers (or paper cone) > Head (needle). To think it was nearly rock science back then.

<rant> I decided to ditch Winodws 8/8.1 and go back to Windows 7, hate metro and the lack of a start menu. </rant> Plugged my Windows 7 Professional EN, vLite edition (Removed LANGuages), iso in formated and installed. Installed all my apps and ran Windows 7 for a week and finally realized that I needed SP1 installed, why I hadn't slipstreamed it IDK. Ran windows update until every update was installed and no option to install SP1. I downloaded the offline installer (windows6.1-KB976932-X64) and after I execute it I'm promptly provided the message "One or more system components that the service pack requires are missing." I click on the link provided in the window and it takes me here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/why-am-i-receiving-message-system-components-missing .. no way am I "reinstalling" ... anyway I followed the steps and have no option to " Get important updates for installation" within the menu. I have "Install" ... wait ... "Upgrade" or "Customize" ... select upgrade and, obviously, tells me not applicable, go back and select customize and now presented with the drives I would like to install Windows on. So, I'm not reinstalling, I followed this guide too: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2498452 I checked for KB976902 and was not installed. Located windows6.1-kb976902-x86, but no x64 version. Read an article stating kb976902 has been pulled. Unable to locate any official download I do not have any Intel GPU drivers. Only NVIDIA ... no Intel GPU The vLite option.. the only option I believe could possibly be the issue, BUT only language packs were removed from the image. last session log: (unsure where the "compatibility" information came from... is this automatically populated by vlite?) ; vLite preset file;;#Environment:; vLite v1.2; Framework 2.0.50727.4927; Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0 64-bit;;#Target:; Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL 64-bit; Version 6.1 English (United States);[Compatibility]ACDSee / XnViewDriveimageXMLDVD TreasuryHalo 2Hauppauge WinTVKMPlayerLogitech SetpointMediaPortalPerfect World ClientZoom PlayerAero GlassFile and printer sharing (Server)Internet ExplorerInternet Information Services (IIS)RecommendedScanners and CamerasSystem RestoreWindows Fax and ScanWindows Update[CustomHide][Components];# Languages #ArabicBrazillianBulgarianCroatianCzechDanishDutchEstonianFinnishFrenchGermanGreekHebrewHungarianItalianJapaneseKoreanLatvianLithuanianNorwegianPolishPortugueseRomanianRussianSerbianSimplified ChineseSlovakSlovenianSpanishSwedishTable Driven Text Input ProcessorThaiTraditional ChineseTurkishUkrainian[Options]DEP (Data Execution Prevention) = DefaultUser Account Control (UAC) = DisabledAntiSpyware Realtime Protection = DefaultAutoPlay = EnabledPaging Executive = EnabledPower scheme = High performancePower button = DefaultSleep button = DefaultControl Panel - Classic View = DefaultShow hidden files and folders = YesShow protected operating system files = NoShow extensions for known file types = YesIE Phishing Filter = DefaultIE Phishing Verification Ballon Tips = Default[Services]WLANSVC = DisabledWMPNETWORKSVC = DisabledWSEARCH = Disabled[Protection][Drivers][Unattended][Hotfixes][LanguagePacks]

I'm not using ProcessHacker via command-line, I'm suspending the process via the GUI, along with all the other required steps. If I use ProcessHacker via command-line and add the argument "ProcessHacker.exe -c -ctype process -cobject Winlogon.exe -caction suspend," (without the comma) replacing "pssupsend winlogon.exe," the batch file executes and kills explorer along with everything else (that means ALL open apps) for that matter, so the batch file doesn't have any chance to complete. Besides, it doesn't even suspend winlogon.exe... Though, now, after adding that line to the batch file, executing it, and experiencing that issue... I'm unable to run my original batch, as previously posted, file without it killing all open apps. What the hell......

The actual problem, as stated previously, is that pssuspend does not suspend winlogon.... the goal is to suspend winlogon using the batch file, unless there is an alternative automated method via command line that requires no user interaction just like my batch file does (or ought to, but doesn't). I have no problems using Process Hacker to suspend the process, killing dwm, but I'd like to use a batch file to automate the process and eliminate all the other steps that require time to complete. A simple command line batch file will save time.

DWM is fairly useless, not only consumes a ton of ram. It's notibly used, killing dwm, for system performance gains. All DWM does is add transparancies and customization to the gui, its nothing spectacular. It's Desktop Windows Managment... silly "Management" ... far and beyond from that term. DWM is asctetics.

Metro is useless!

That's way too much work and could very likely damange a system, if a normal user doens't know what they're doing, just for a simple batch file to suspend winlogon. Anyway, I tried "RunasSystem" and "RunFromToken" and both of those scripts modified attributes of my system - it did more than it claimed to do, and still did not allow suspending winlogon. As previously stated, both tools from Sysinternals (pssuspend and Process Explorer) are unable to suspend winlogon, even as administrator, BUT Process Hacker (by Wen Jia Liu) can, without issues, suspend winlogon as administrator. I'll just post my broken batch file, well the batch file isn't really broken, Windows 8/8.1 is broken... the batch file ought to work without issues. Tools a user will need: Sysinternals PStools Preferably extract the folder to the root of a secondary drive, or C: driveRight click My Computer > Properties > Advanced System Settings, Select Environment Variables (located on the bottom), locate the text System variables, scroll down until you see "Path" *** STOP -- DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING WITHIN THE "PATH" , JUST ADD THE NEW LOCATION !!!! *** You've been warned... deleting entries in the path may break your system! Read next bullet point.Now copy the location where you extracted PsTools (e.g. G:\DATA\PsTools , obviously, yours may be different), now type or paste that location at the very end of the "Path" making sure you add a semicolon ; between the current content and the new WITHOUT a space. Once you have the path entered, click ok through the prompts.After this is completed, copy batch file into notepad and save as DWM-W8-KILLER.bat .... make sure you name it .BAT and NOT .TXT as notepad will append .TXT to the file, if it does rename it to .BATThe batch file will is meant to terminate explorer, suspend winlogon, kill dwm, and restart explorer, then the batch file will pause requiring user input, which will then resume winlogon, and winlogon will automatically restart dwm.exe and the batch file will restart explorer. Very harmless to a system. DWM-W8-KILLER.bat @echo offecho ---------------------------------------------------echo epic Windows 8 / 8.1 DWM Killer v0.1betaecho ---------------------------------------------------:IsRunningecho ----------------------------------echo explorer.exe Foundecho ----------------------------------TASKKILL /F /IM explorer.exe /Tif errorlevel 1 goto Error1if errorlevel 0 goto WinlogonSupsend:Error1echo -------------------------------------------echo Failed to Kill explorer.exeecho -------------------------------------------goto End:WinlogonSupsendecho -------------------------------------------echo Attempting to Suspend Winlogon.exeecho -------------------------------------------pssuspend winlogon.exeif errorlevel 1 goto Error2if errorlevel 0 goto WinlogonSuspendsuccess:Error2echo -------------------------------------------echo Failed to Kill winlogon.exe err#2echo -------------------------------------------goto End:WinlogonSuspendsuccessecho --------------------------------------------echo Successfully Suspended winlogon.exeecho --------------------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto Error2if errorlevel 0 goto DWMKILL:DWMKILLecho ----------------------------------echo Attempting to Kill dwm.exeecho ----------------------------------TASKKILL /F /IM dwm.exe /Tif errorlevel 1 goto Error3if errorlevel 0 goto dwmkilled:Error3echo -------------------------------------------echo Failed to Kill dwm.exe err#3echo -------------------------------------------goto End:dwmkilledecho ----------------------------------echo Successfully Killed dwm.exeecho ----------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto Error3if errorlevel 0 goto Explorer:Explorerecho ----------------------------------echo Starting process explorer.exeecho ----------------------------------explorer.exeif errorlevel 1 goto Error4if errorlevel 0 goto fexplorer:Error4echo -------------------------------------------echo Failed to Start explorer.exe err#4echo -------------------------------------------goto End:fexplorerecho ----------------------------------echo Successfully started explorer.exeecho ----------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto Error4if errorlevel 0 goto Pause:Pauseecho ------------------------------------------------echo Close this window or minimize it...... If youecho press any key the batch file will restart dwm.echo Please wait until you're finished with whatever.echo ------------------------------------------------pauseif errorlevel 1 goto ErrorPauseif errorlevel 0 goto WinlogonResume:ErrorPauseecho ------------------------------------------------echo Pause failed.... weird! Try again!echo ------------------------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto ErrorPauseif errorlevel 0 goto WinlogonResume:WinlogonResumeecho ----------------------------------echo Resuming process winlogon.exeecho ----------------------------------pssuspend -r winlogon.exeif errorlevel 1 goto Error5if errorlevel 0 goto winlogonstart:Error5echo -------------------------------------------echo Failed to resume winlogon.exe err#5echo -------------------------------------------goto End:winlogonstartecho ----------------------------------echo Successfully Resumed winlogon.exeecho ----------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto Error5if errorlevel 0 goto ExplorerRestart:ExplorerRestartecho ------------------------------------------------echo Restarting process explorer.exe:End ------------------------------------------------TASKKILL /F /IM explorer.exe /Texplorer.exeif errorlevel 1 goto Error6if errorlevel 0 goto explorerestartedecho ----------------------------------------------echo Failed to Restart explorer.exe err#6echo Press WIN+R , type EXPLORERecho ----------------------------------------------goto End:explorerestartedecho -----------------------------------echo Successfully Restarted explorer.exeecho -----------------------------------if errorlevel 1 goto Error6if errorlevel 0 goto End:End--- Below is my previous batch file for Vista and 7. 3 lines.... and practically no errors would occur while disabling dwm.exe. It works as administrator with aboslutely NO issues whatsoever. It will kill and restart dwm.exe if it isn't currently running. Kinda pathetic 3 lines vs 100+ lines. Simple!: @echo offtaskkill /f /IM dwm.exedwm.exe---- I forgot to mention that while DWM is disabled and explorer restarted you'll notice, on your main display, a weird split. That split is Windows split screen for metro... it's unavoidable unless you totally kill explorer and continue running your apps. Alt+Tab still works while explorer is killed. I really really really wish METRO/MODERN could be removed from f***ing Windows 8/8.1

The BASE system components of Vista/7 also consume 1.5x - 4x more memory than XP, and buggy as hell. Hence fraud... people usually went to jail / prison for this shit back in the day. If you can't be 100% honest about a product, then you shouldn't be selling / offering it, period.

I'm writing a batch script and unable to locate any information as to why pssuspend (pstools) is having difficulties suspending the winlogon.exe process. I also ran across the same problem with Process Explorer to suspend it, "Unable to suspend the process: The system cannot find the file specified." Though when I use ProcessHacker, I have no problems. Both pssuspend and processexplorer are running as admin. The error when attempting to suspend the process with pssuspend: G:\DATA\archive>pssuspend winlogon.exePsSuspend v1.06 - Process SuspenderCopyright ⌐ 2001-2003 Mark RussinovichSysinternalsUnable to suspend process winlogon.exe:G:\DATA\archive>Edit: Tried "process.exe" by Craig.Peacock and his app revealed what I suspected... access denied. Not sure if there is a way around this, other than changing permissions on Winlogon.exe, which I do not want to do. I'm looking for an easier approach, as I will be posting the final batch file here for members to use, if ever needed. G:\DATA\archive>process -s winlogon.exeCommand Line Process Viewer/Killer/Suspender for Windows NT/2000/XP V2.03Copyright(C) 2002-2003 Craig.Peacock@beyondlogic.orgSuspending PID 824 'winlogon.exe'Threads [828]Error 0x5 : Access is denied.[1124]Error 0x5 : Access is denied.G:\DATA\archive>

Thanks I'll give that a try. As for providing version of windows... didn't think that mattered as {645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E} has been the same structure since Windows Xp, despite bit. Do I really need to add the values within the second snippet you added ";CCleaner" to achieve the desired affect within the recyclebin? Anyway, I'll try the suggestion out. Ah, nvm, you're pointing to a sub command, was hoping it'd be a bit cleaner. Still nice.

The apps I currently have within the context menu hasn't changed for several years, if I do add more I just add another entry in the registry and point it to the file on the data drive, then backup the script as a backup. Someday I'll move all these apps to a NAS, when I build/buy one, and point them there.

Well, it has nothing to do with Windows 8 specifically. These are custom links to programs that I decided to add to the recycle bin menu (HKCR\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shell) since I don't want them anywhere else. What I'm attempting to do is get them to fan out within a sub-menu, instead of being listed directly in the context menu.

Maybe he was refering to the few and fare between metro fans. (I personally like it ... on a tablet that is "still dont find it great then") I can see metro for tablets, but it should have never been forced upon desktop users. It's like Windows ME all over again, but genuinely a more advanced OS. As I noted in a previous thread, metro and all these other apps should have been included as a "FEATURE" so users can enable/disable as they wanted to. With the way it is now even if you "uninstall" some of these apps from metro, they're still installed and running in the background hogging system resources. Anyway, as a feature, desktop users could enable / disable the feature if they wanted to, especially if some of those users had touchscreen, but MOST desktop users do not have touchscreen for their desktops, especially within the corporate environment, obviously, there is absolutely NO point to have touchscreen features within a system whcih only uses mouse/keyboard. Tablet users, obviously, metro is useful, but NOT for most desktop users.

Is there any way to list (eg: similar to send to) links within the context menu rather than the links showing directly under HKCR\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\shell ? included images to explain: [table] [tr] [th]Current:[/th] [th]After:[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]http://i57.tinypic.com/10xczrm.jpg[/td] [td]http://i59.tinypic.com/2wn8igz.jpg[/td] [/tr] [/table] Well... guess the forum doesn't allow tables. Current: How can I get a submenu like this? (photoshopped, obviously)

Has anyone updated, thoughts? Is there a start menu? So Microsoft is ending support to 8.1 if we chose not to update... oh boy, I sure wish this were 400 A.D. era I'd be beheading neanderthals with joy.

If it's released before Windows 9, and who knows what that looks like yet.

There is a default default icon, but unable to locate it. The default default icon is an icon that doesn't have any file association. It's either blank or something else.

Ok, so Microsoft finally got their head out of their asses and woke up, half way. It seems that Microsoft is finally introducing the classic Start Menu back into Winodows, which is a huge plus for Windows 8.1, AND providing the consumer the ability to run modern apps in a WINDOWED setting. However... Microsoft is failing to provide information about what the "ALL APPS" (ie: Programs, All Programs) link directs the consumers of Winodws 8.1 to. Does the "all apps" link push the consumer back to the poorly coded, annoying, and hated "modern start menu" and fill up the entire display, or does it tile and list all apps, WITHIN the Start Menu, as in previous versions of Windows? I guess we'll see what the "all apps" link is all about, unless others have more information about this update.

Ultramon doesn't have the ability to switch between hardware inputs.

oh i miss calling 0 and never getting hung up on or some dumb a** automated messaging system or some foreign nationalist that can barely speak a word of english (no disrepect, but seriously... how do you like it when someone can't speak a single word of your native language when you need something! usually takes 30minutes who don't know jack vs 30 seconds with someone of your native language!! ). was so simpler back then...

Anyone know of an alternative software, aside from mControl (http://www.entechtaiwan.com/), that can control and switch between inputs on a display by a simple batch file or shortcut? Eg: DVI to VGA, VGA to DVI, or DVI1 to DVI2, etc...