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  1. The = Icon I'm not seeing anything but two numbers above two numbers in a domino. You might need to spell it out or is that a picture of something? But anything Haswell/Broadwell you can eliminate since I haven't tested that and for good reason. The last Two SkyLake and Kaby Lake you'd have to get their entire hardware configuration and OS configuration and detail it so I can examine what they used in their test. Unless you have a particular game title that has a demo version to download and test that constantly crashes or has problems I'll test it out on my system when I get a chance to see if it occurs. That's the best I can do unless they had the exact same hardware and software and method used to install everything I can't say for certain it's conclusive. If there were 1000 people with my exact same hardware build and OS version I used and the same exact problem for 90% of them I would be more inclined to believe the result is conclusive and even give it a test myself to confirm and add to the tally. But how many users total are we talking about here realistically with Vista issues on Z170 and Z270 and using Vista 64-Bit Ultimate SP2 with DX 11.0? Narrow that list down first. But if Vista isn't really a necessity and Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate SP1 works fine on the same exact system just move on would be my suggestion even though I think Vista is a great but I also thought the same of Windows 2000 until XP gained favor just like 7 has. The same thing happening to Vista has happened to 2000. And now that Windows 10 is trying hard to dominate over Windows 7 I would concentrate my efforts to keep Windows 7 64-bit SP1 staying alive as long as possible to avoid a Windows 10 dominance. If no one cares about DX11 we will be seeing Windows 7 64-Bit alive in 2029 which I hope puts a dagger in Microsoft's back.
  2. I'm assuming you're talking about non U.S. Citizens? Naturalized citizens have to learn English unless they allowed citizenship through interpreters. Looks like they do. https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-2449/0-0-0-2798.html Are you saying you had a language barrier understanding what I wrote? It will probably be the last barrage of tests, I hope you give my suggestions a shot. Maybe it'll resolve your problem or you pinpoint the problem. If all else fails for you then time to find that old Ivy Bridge X79 which could still run Vista properly and have more than 4 cores.
  3. You caught my post mid editing. I tried pasting a link which ended up duplicating everything and I tend to backup my compositions in case the browser crashes I won't have to retype everything again. So any finished post you'll have to wait 10 minutes or so before I'm done. There's only so much of the composition screen you can see at once so when it double posted I had to read / update, remove the duplicate portion, repeat. If I typed shorter sentences like you then this wouldn't happen.
  4. First off I'm hoping based on the flags we are all American and speak English fluently. So maybe there's a miscommunication on how you troubleshoot vs my old school style. But second if you're pointing to any graphics card that is Maxwell based even this is way beyond what you would need for every day tasks which is why when you're mentioning higher end 900 series graphics that implies you have more interest in gaming. There was supposed to be a Maxwell 930 that never got released. This card would have been 15 Watts and capable of Vista and the perfect single slot fanless HTPC graphics card in existence. Instead they released the Pascal 1000 series and dropped XP and Vista drivers. So I would actually have recommended the GT 930 had it existed and that would have been released in 2016. http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gt-930-launch-q1-2016-maxwell-kepler-fermi/ The AMD Radeon HD 6450 series I mentioned isn't a gaming video card but does the job of running Vista desktop duties just fine which is the reason I brought it up because it's cheap and still available. It's a little more powerful than the Intel HD Graphics 4000 found in the Ivy Bridge CPU. It's not about when it was released but what has been tested by myself without problems and I've probably built and installed more XP and Vista systems than you on a variety of hardware. But if you're not trying to isolate the problem and aren't into testing things to death like myself since I'm not there testing your hardware it's not so simple to conclude what's the culprit. I've been building machines based when the 8088 and floppy disks were considered expensive so if you want to trust just your own troubleshooting skills to make a definitive conclusion that's your prerogative. I can only conclude from my own experience building PCs that Vista 64-bit Ultimate SP2 DX11 works on SkyLake Z170 and if it doesn't on yours then any number of differences between our systems can be the source of the problems. As for the GPUs I tend to stick to the fanless models when possible and the Strix 960 would be at the upper end with half fanless mode. And if it takes a single slot instead of hogging two or three than I can use other empty slots for add on cards. The fastest dual socket GPUs doesn't always equate to long term stability. If you judge a GPU because of age then you're not into longevity of a system. If you're into upgrading graphics card just to have the best then we are at different ends of the spectrum. I've tested each generation including the GTX 1050Ti so no I don't only use 2011 GPUs only. I don't want or need dual jet engines in SLI blowing and making noise or collecting dust inside my computer chassis. If you examine some of my Ivy Bridge systems there is still no dust in the entire system and the motherboard looks brand spanking new. You're welcome to continue using high end GPUs you paid for but anything above nVidia GT 730 is beyond the needs of what Vista requires and any card above the AMD Radeon HD 6450 is the equivalent. Mid level gaming kicks in around GTX 750 Maxwell so anything like GTX 950 as you stated owning is already capable of gaming at mid range settings. GTX 960 and up would be geared to high level detail. I do plan on getting a GTX Titan X when the price of that sucker drops to $300 or less for some retro XP / Vista PC in a decade. It would be nice to see how well games perform on this monstrosity. 2008WV? I'm not sure what you meant here. I don't deal with the Server editions at all 2K3. 2K8, or 2K12 if that's what you were referring to there I can't comment on the stability on those OSs but if they're server class they "should" be more stable. I usually install DOS, 98SE, XP, Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on each build to cover all the major OS bases and test them out. Now if Quick Launch / Clear Desktop can be correctly adapted to Windows 7 like in Vista I would probably consider dropping Vista from test builds entirely and save me another partition of space.
  5. Any chance you can pick up Vista 64-Bit Ultimate non service pack version instead of using Vista Business? This is the version I'd consider using to weed out any problems and match the OS build. You can add the official SP2 manually on the desktop. This is how clean I'd start testing. If I remember the original Vista had bugs and problems which plagued it which didn't help that it was already running on hardware that couldn't handle Vista at the time making Vista seem horrible, slow, and buggy. It wasn't until SP2 was released that it was actually pretty stable and more so than Windows 7 from my experience. Have you tried any other browsers like FireFox? I avoid IE like the plague ever since IE6 due to the easy malware infections but another alternate browser is SeaMonkey. I do a lot of multitabs in the several hundreds so I'd say if you can keep Firefox memory consumption under 1GB in the Task Manager it won't go haywire and freeze up or crash. Most people are probably good with 5 tabs open or closing out their tabs when done and won't experience problems.
  6. I'm only offering you a troubleshooting tool to test if the stability is resolved and not about gaming and if was about gaming then I would actually recommend switching to Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate SP1 just to access all the titles. If you're not even giving it a chance then you can keep to your own conclusion which could be your hardware or it could be Haswell only and possibly Broadwell. At the moment SkyLake is different. I haven't experienced the problems you are describing and the culprit could be the drivers. I'd also use the latest GTX Titan X graphics card if I was into the best Vista capable graphics card but like I said before you're trying to troubleshoot the cause of your stability issues so if you're stuck on not giving something I've tested for years of stability we'll leave it at that. Also you're not using Vista 64-Bit Ultimate in your test while using a completely different hardware Brand and Motherboard so we can't directly conclude what's causing your problems which is why breaking down component by component is the only way. Until you have a SkyLake to test you can't conclude other than Haswell could not use Vista or something with your hardware configuration is the culprit. Now if there's a specific game or program that definitely causes problems for you that might be something I could test to confirm if it happens on SkyLake. If I can replicate the issue then we might be onto something but so far on all my clean install tests I've not seen the problem you described. And I tend to reimage my clean installs so I can do driver mod tests because once you install a driver it infects the database and if you put the same card back in it'll try and install the old drivers even if you've removed them in safe mode. I have one Vista 64-bit Ultimate with SP2 which has been running unactivated since last November. So don't worry about activating your copy when doing the testing. I'm trying to drag out how long Vista can run without activation. Now Windows 10 I've installed clean and unactivated and it'd nag you within the first month with constant annoying pop ups. I was using Windows 7 Unactivated for awhile but I got tired of not using Quick Launch so that's why I'm using Vista for almost a year 24/7 non stop as a DVR and unactivated.
  7. Here's a solid Vista graphics card that uses a single slot and fanless. I haven't tested nVidia cards in Vista for stability so if you want hard hours tested on Vista this is the card that should do the job. SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card ( 100322L) $40 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Video+Cards+-+AMD%2FATI-_-N82E16814102933&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhuX6ypDb1gIVCqtpCh0iWg9dEAQYASABEgJgg_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds AMD Radeon HD 6450 play Blu-rays in XP and Windows 7 but not in Vista which is the only issue that exists for Vista that I could find. I did a recent test of an nVidia 700 series in Vista and it does not play Blu-rays but works in Windows 7 and 10. I can't recall if I tested it in XP but let's say it should work. At the bottom is the Intel HD Graphics which only supports Blu-ray playback on Windows 7. I should only comment that this only worked for the Intel HD 3000 and 4000. On SkyLake the Intel HD Graphics can't play Blu-rays in my software so you'll only be able to play 1080P movies that you have decrypted. That's why I find no value in Intel HD Graphics chips and would rather have more cores. If they still made XP and Vista drivers I would find them more useful. So those are your only 3 options to choose from today. I'd put AMD Radeon HD 6450 at the top of any Vista HTPC build component.
  8. Okay here's what I'm going to suggest to you. I wrote an extensive clean build write up on this post. If you can do the same on your motherboard and let me know how it goes. It's critical you disable as much onboard devices as you can. Use a PS/2 port for the keyboard to complete the install. If you have onboard USB 2.0 controller just enable that only and disable the USB 3.0. Use this for your USB mouse. I do use Vista 64-bit on a daily basis on an AMD Radeon HD 6500 series card and it doesn't crash, freeze, or any unusual behavior. I also should mention I revert to Windows Classic 98 still mode so I don't use the Aero or the Orb or any of the shiny features in Vista because I wanted it to run fast, smooth, and most importantly stable. So if you follow my clean instructions and use an AMD Radeon HD 6500 series card. A good company is Sapphire. I didn't try other brands because they made the worst GPU coolers and Sapphire has the beefiest I've seen. Also you might want to hunt down older generation Vista 64-Bit drivers but I think I've been using the latest driver version offered on Sapphire's site which usually is the most stable but just in case the newer drivers aren't optimized and bug free on Vista 64-bit with Aero and other enhancements I'd disable that fancy eye candy and go retro 98 Windows Classic look, disable all animations and other features to bare bones simplicity. Let me know how it goes. Don't try an AMD 7000+ or nVidia graphics card for this test so if you want give that a go you might experience different results. If somehow you are still crashing or having boot issues, I'd say try Asrock or Asus Z87 or skip to Z170 instead and look for the higher tier motherboards and avoid anything below Z class chipset even though it is cheaper. If you don't to invest too much get a cheap 4GB DDR4 and G3900 CPU seems to be the bare bones for testing it out. I don't use Gigabyte because they tend to be buggier and flimsier and most pick this brand to get a cheap hackintosh build out of it. So if you've tried everything I've done then you can conclude Vista can't work. But as far as stability my Vista 64-Bit Ultimate with SP2 runs just fine but when I have more time I will do more burn in tests and run it 24 / 7. My biggest issue with Vista is for whatever reason HDCP was not written into the graphics driver so I can't play Blu-rays in Vista but in XP it works and in Windows 7. Otherwise it would actually be the perfect OS for everything I want done. I'll try back porting a Windows 7 driver to Vista later to see if that can trick it but for now if you've truly tested an exhausted all the options I've given get back to me then. I'm pretty confident it's either your Motherboard, Haswell isolated, or any number of hardware related / driver issues but if you start to match the hardware I use maybe that will solve your problem. If you have time maybe you can use a cell phone and document this error you are getting and upload it to youtube for other's to see. You never know if someone figured out what is causing it or has the same problem then compare your hardware configurations.
  9. Yes my health is the same as yours. I plan on doing one last Z370 and Ryzen XP build attempt and will retire as well as it will be another 3-5 years before anything improves worth investing time and money. I will probably try myself to figure out how to do the 8GB and 16GB memory hack for XP on my own when I have more time. It's too difficult to find people interested in keeping XP going but still my favorite OS. I have written an extensive XP guide to help others and worked on the USB 3.0 issue but I will also be quitting soon after you as is the nature of obsolescence. Since I can't open your source file at the moment I guess I will let it go as it will not help not knowing what the hell is going on in it without you or others. Bills have come and loans increase in magnitude so my time is very limited as well. Much Thanks and Be Well Dibya. XP Lives forever in our dreams.....
  10. Dibya sorry to hear you quit. I told you it would be a tough job and better to focus on smaller useful projects that offer long term usage. I'm interested in just increasing the XP 32-bit capacity from 3.2GB to 8GB and 16GB but not adding any extra Windows Vista or Windows 7 compatibility. I just want to increase the XP 32-bit memory limit only without changing XP code which can cause problems with some of my software. Do you still have notes on what to change to increase the memory limit? I don't want the 128GB max as I use Ramdrive software which might be incompatible. Before I asked you said you were on vacation with your sister but now you are back home? Also can you reupload your source code files as regular .zip instead of .7z? I couldn't open the file you uploaded. Brighter note for your new XP Coffee Lake machine; Coffee Lake cheap Quad Core CPU out now in the US today. Intel BX80684I38100 8th Gen Core i3-8100 Processor $117 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684I38100-Core-i3-8100-Processor/dp/B0759FTRZL/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1507221458&sr=8-18&keywords=8th+Gen+Core+intel Now we wait for the AsRock Z370 Tai Chi MB.
  11. This might be old school but I wish they had made a CGI version of this for a movie:
  12. I'm not sure I follow you entirely with your wording. When I say bare bones I will explain using a silly analogy. When I think of embedded I am thinking maybe a 10 year old kid. He/she can move their head, arms, and legs and walk and weighs a lot of less. Then we we have the regular OS same structure but 20 year old adult except maybe the head, arms, and legs are larger but the functions are almost the same and weighs more (like extra code). I don't use XP or W7 embedded unless you do to give experimental feedback since I don't run POS. But embedded OSs are usually more compact than the full sized OS but whether they can run all XP or all W7 applications as good I can't answer that but basic video, audio, keyboard, mouse I would assume function the same as the larger full sized OS. Just like a 20 year old adult can lift more than a 10 year old kid the adult can do more. That's my impression of embedded. I've seen these used on ATMs and RedBox movie dispensers.
  13. The only thing I would suggest as I despise AIO PCs since they usually neuter the BIOS options. Can you disable onboard audio, LAN, and USB controllers? More stuff to disable found: Integrated Bluetooth 4.0 Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n featuring Single-band (2.4Ghz) 1 X 1 technology You'll need a Wired PS/2 mouse and Wired PS/2 keyboard. :Update: Looks like your AOI PC has no PS/2 ports on the rear. This one is going to be harder to troubleshoot since you need the input devices. So in your situation just enable the USB 2.0 ports they are the grey ones underneath your ethernet port on the left. Make sure the USB 3.0 controller is disabled. Plug a USB wired mouse and USB wired keyboard into those two USB 2.0 ports. Do not use Wireless mouse and Wireless keyboard. Some have no PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse port. So if you have one of those it might be a little tricky to troubleshoot without a 3rd party USB card but if you have one PS/2 port then I'd stick the Keyboard into it and try and install with just the keyboard only. Do that first. Remove all internal cards if you have any. Remove any other drives except for the optical and one hard drive or SSD. The hard drive or SSD you are going to install Vista clean is going to be wiped so if there is any data you want to keep back it up to another drive first. Now you'll need a SATA to USB adapter to hook this drive up to another computer and use Windows Disk Management and delete all the partitions on this drive. Be careful to not delete partitions on your working drive so pay attention which Drive you selected. Eject and remove this drive. Hook up the SATA optical drive only to the "Intel" SATA controller and then the hard drive you just wiped unless it's brand new or SSD to the "Intel' SATA controller. Do not hook to a 3rd party SATA controller if it has one. Disable the Asmedia or other 3rd party SATA controller in the BIOS. Install a real graphics card inserted in your motherboard slot and hook it up to the HDMI output on the rear of the video card. Some compatible nVidia graphics card models are 200 series up to 900 series. Haswell Intel iGPU does not support Vista at all. In the BIOS make sure after the graphics card is installed you choose the PCIe card for primary graphics. If you see an option for Intel iGPU Shared Memory set it to Auto do not leave it on 32M - 1024MB range or it'll activate and we want it disabled. Put in the authentic Vista 64-Bit Ultimate DVD and install onto a fresh hard drive that is MBR and 2TB or less in capacity for this test. You can make the 1st partition 120GB or 128GB no larger. You can make another 120GB/128GB 2nd partition the same size as the 1st partition then partition the rest of the space off as one chunk or however you want. Set the BIOS to boot off the optical drive as the 1st device. Don't try adding any new hardware internally or activate any of the disabled hardware in the BIOS we shut off. Once you complete the Vista install then only add SP2 and nothing else no other updates. Reboot after done Add the DX11 Updates. Reboot after done Image the the entire partition in its clean state to the 2nd partition. Now you can mess around and install your graphics card drivers. Prefer using the HDMI here if you can output this for video and audio. Test the stability of this clean Vista OS state for a few days and let me know if it still crashes.
  14. As I understand it. XP Embedded and W7 Embedded are use a bare bones version of their larger desktop OS counterpart but perhaps a bit more optimized so it runs with less code. But I would guess if a Desktop CPU version of Cannon Lake works in XP, Vista, and Windows 7 most likely the Embedded version could work as well. I think the only thing that MS has done that may push W7 Embedded users away is not allowing updates to work on Post SkyLake CPUs as they had wanted to do. But some people around found a way to allow Kaby Lake CPUs to get those updates so unless the IT Admin in charge of those W7 Embedded was a complete moron and couldn't figure out how to install W7E on newer CPUs then they should fire the guy. But the only thing that would prevent W7E not install on say Kaby Lake or later is they have to update the SATA controller IDs to detect the newer chipsets which is what XP has been doing all these years to stay alive. As for Ravage, I think you took your avatar from the Transformers G1 cartoon from Hasbro did you not? More than Meets The Eye...
  15. Like I said I have no problems running Vista 64-bit on my Desktop and I don't use Laptops (Haswell+) since no XP drivers will work on the Intel iGPU so you'd have to frankenstein the thing. So if your problems with Haswell are laptop related and not desktop related that might point to some kind of Laptop compatibility issue? If I had a Haswell/Broadwell/SkyLake or Kaby Lake laptop I wouldn't use anything but Windows 7 and later due to driver issues for the onboard devices might not be available. The external dual PCIe slots adapter is the only way I'd even consider getting XP and Vista working on it as a last resort.
  16. I never said Pascal 1000 series have Mobile read up. 600M was the last Mobile series at least for XP and Vista. I was suggesting the adapter I listed to use full size desktop graphic cards on a laptop which then you could use a GTX Titan X, 980 TI, or 980. The 900 series is the last desktop graphics cards for XP and Vista.
  17. Yes you were responding after I responded to 2KWV. If the information doesn't apply to your situation then ignore it. DDR4 you'll probably max out at 32GB if you can afford the laptop RAM. Are you using the same adapter I listed? So if you're already using a graphics card externally then I would still suggest you get a 900 series Maxwell to do a stability comparison. If you're using Vista drivers that weren't official that could be the cause of your problems but if you have no issues or bugs on your laptop then ignore my previous messages. I never experienced any problems running Vista. I usually test XP, Vista, and Windows 7 on new builds.
  18. nVidia 600M series is the last Laptop certified drivers for XP and Vista. XP 32-Bit GeForce 307.83 Driver Release Date: 2013.2.26 http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/57623/en-us Vista 64-Bits GeForce 310.90 Driver Release Date: 2013.1.5 http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/55124/en-us You're going to need this adapter to use a GTX 900 series desktop graphics card on it. Yes it's a cheat but it will work. Expresscard 34 To 2 PCI Express 16x slots adapter Laptop to PCI-e 1x 4x 8x 16x $110 total with the shipping cost. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Expresscard-34-To-2-PCI-Express-16x-slots-adapter-Laptop-to-PCI-e-1x-4x-8x-16x-/201177973257?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275 Last official GTX 900 Series XP and Vista Driver https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/102379 Version365.19 - WHQL Release DateFri May 13, 2016 Now with that adapter you could try a GTX Titan X but your laptop probably couldn't handle it. GTX 980 Ti and GTX 980 might be just the right amount of power your laptop could use at near 100% But who's to say Crysis 3 on a laptop wasn't possible at max details? Now I don't know your laptop specs but if it is DDR3 which I assume it might be then the most you can get is 16GB using 8GB x 2. DDR2 I could get 8GB max using 4GB x 2. And originally it was a 4GB (2GB x2). Going from 4GB to 8GB was a huge improvement for Vista. 16GB is the lowest I'd go on a desktop but on a barebones test trying to squeeze as much RAM to a Ramdrive it looks like 6GB of untouched RAM is the bare minimum or you have slow boot up issues or the orb keeps circling non stop and won't go to the desktop. I'm not sure if you've seen this bug but this is a low memory issue. Sometimes it will boot fine but stall around for about 3mins longer than a normal boot. So 8GB would be a bare laptop minimum recommendation but this is before adding or running applications as that adds to the memory usage. For example Crysis if you added that even though it could run on 4GB total memory on a laptop it lagged so much from the swapping. 8GB it really helped but I would say 16GB is really the bare minimum which is why XP 32-bit is a better OS on Ivy Bridge laptops and occasional Vista 64-bit usage. With DDR4 laptops with two memory slots can probably max out at 32GB (16GB x 2). I really don't think they will get 32GB modules. Laptops seem to get stiffed and get half the max capacity of desktops.
  19. Still missing a lot of info, read my message as you replied during my edit. "Note" I just read laptop. I wouldn't recommend Vista on a laptop and a GTX 1060 is Pascal so you won't get working drivers at all using it. GTX 600M series I think were the last to have XP and Vista drivers so laptops got screwed a bit earlier on support. However if you must have Vista working on a laptop I saw a solution. ...wait... Just from first glance try getting Vista 64-Bit Ultimate Add SP2 post clean install Reboot ADD DX11.0 post SP2 update Don't add anything else and use an OS imaging program and store that clean partition state. Don't mess with adding "any" drivers, cards, or activate it. You need to use this image to fall back on in case something goes wrong. I also don't recommend all those other updates you mentioned which could cause problems. For memory I recommend 16GB minimum although I would suggest you fill it up to 32GB or 64GB if you're on SkyLake. Graphics card try a Maxwell 700 Series based. GTX 750 is a good one. GTX 960 if you need more power. Use HDMI for the video/audio if you don't use a sound card but have a HDTV with audio output. USB card find one on eBay that you can verify supports Vista on the manufacturer site. It is possible the onboard USB drivers could be unstable and disabling it in the BIOS and testing an onboard USB Card to see if it works. You might also want to do a Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate install and add SP1 and "no other updates", no extra cards and no activation and do an OS image of that partition for safe keeping. Do another series of 50 Boot ups and Shut downs. See if it happens or not. That's the best I can offer as what I would be doing in your situation and it's time intensive and too many variables like your Brand and Model MB could be a factor.
  20. I never had these problems you described. You might want to detail which version of Vista you are using (US, Europe, et cetera), Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate, which Service Pack if any, what Graphics card, sound card, and network card used. If using onboard or PCIe card for USB controller. How much RAM you have installed and are you running any Page File, Swap file, have hibernation activated, or using a Ramdrive? The chipset drivers you don't need to install those at all. You'll find a bunch of ? but it doesn't affect the stability. All you need to get the machine running even on a basic level is video, audio and Usb ports. Test the stability then. The errors you are getting could be due to bad drivers so you'll have to isolate what hardware you add later causing the boot issues. If you keep to a basic install you could even get away with no USB port drivers in some cases if you can get the USB mouse and PS2 keyboard working on your machine. Do your 50 Boot Up Shut Down tests to see if you get that problem you described reoccurs. Once you start adding more cards in the slots or install more software it is hard to guess what is causing the issue. I also recommend SP2 with DX 11.0 if you haven't tried that combination on a clean install. These must be done post install "manually" run in the OS. I haven't tried NTLite with these yet have you?
  21. I'm a little confused by this posting. Sandy Bridge was great but Coffee Lake is the new Sandy Bridge. 6 Cores / 12 Threads in XP 32-Bit / Vista 64-Bit is now possible with i7-8700K. Does no one here aside from me and Dibya have/had a Skylake 100 Series or higher series motherboard? Coffee Lake is coming out in less than 6 hours tomorrow October 5th, 2017. There might be limited quantities from what I've read so if anyone is seriously wanting to not wait around for new stock check if they carry it in your area or get it online before the stock is gone. This is the first Intel 6 Core mainstream consumer class desktop CPU without going to enthusiast class. Higher probability that XP, Vista, and W7 will work on it. Also the Intel Z370 is capable of underclocking and deactivating cores. http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-8700k-review/ NOTE: User Ragnargd has tested an AMD AM4 Ryzen 5 1600X (6 Cores / 12 Threads) with an ASRock X370 Gaming X MB and told me he couldn't underclock or deactivate or reduce his CPU cores so Intel CPUs would be an advantage of running cooler for 24/7 operation. Vista 64-Bit works and Windows 7 64-Bit works on my Z170. If you want a high probability of getting Vista 64-Bit to work look at the new AsRock Z370 Tai Chi. https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z370 Taichi/index.asp#Specification In fact if anyone is willing to get it before me I'll help try and get it to work for XP and/or Vista on it. XP 32-bit, Vista 64-Bit, Windows 7 64-Bit, and Windows 10 64-Bit (Ick) work fine on my Z170. DOS and 98SE can be installed also but that's another topic. This Z370 Taichi model has the same exact Asmedia USB controller so I'm quite certain 80% that this would should work the same. This Z370 Taichi has 6 Asmedia USB 3.X ports (2 Rear, 4 Internal). So this might be one of the best XP 32-bit capable systems I've seen without adding a USB card. 5 of the USB ports are Type A (Standard). The Type C can be adapted to Type A so not a deal breaker. Now the worst case is you still can get a very cheap USB 3.0 PCIe Card for XP. There might be some 3rd Party companies that still have Vista 64-Bit USB 3.0 drivers if you double check the manufacturer sites for official drivers. I don't think XP or Vista is as dead as you think it is on modern systems. But running Windows 7 programs on Vista that's another story.
  22. Tripredacus are you sure about that or where are you getting this information? SkyLake and Kaby Lake CPUs should work fine. I have Vista 64-Bit and Windows 7 64-Bit working on SkyLake and Kaby Lake on Z170. By the way since I'm a Transformers G1 fan and I can't quite pinpoint it but your Avatar seems to remind me of Ravage the micro cassette tape that went into SoundWave. It was one of favorites since it had some metal parts to it instead of all plastic. But I can't see any relation of Tripedacus to your Avatar.
  23. I never uploaded any patches so that would be 0. I wanted Wunderbar98 to put his collection of files into a dropbox zip file for download. There might be a bunch no one has and let the user sort it out on their own what they need. I never downloaded any of these updates when they were available from MS but they might come in handy today.
  24. I'm not talking about a 1TB single file. It would be a nightmare to split something up that big. Just to give you an idea 8GB is roughly the size of 1 hour of HD footage recording off the TV signal so 200GB would be a day's worth on one channel non stop. I meant copying files 8GB or larger files but preferably 50GB or 100GB files would be better because as soon as you switch to start copying another file it could drop the sustained transfer rate and then you have another false reading. You'd time 1000GB of files being transferred and hopefully no small 1KB-1GB files but some good sizes are 50GB like a Blu-ray. So 20 50GB files would be a good test. In the case of using a stop watch it won't matter what false reading you get from Windows since you can calculate the actual time to transfer 1TB and divide 1,000,000/seconds elapsed to get your true MBps. Regarding "ginormous" files. Well a few times because I started a recording manually and had to leave town for a day or two while it keeps recording non stop and so there's been a few times where the files have grown to over 300 GB when I returned. That was before I started using a good 3rd party scheduling program so I didn't have to be there to start and stop the recording. But I wouldn't consider 300GB out of the ordinary and a rare occurrence. People doing film editing probably are dealing with these large files on 4K resolution so if it's 4 times the size of 1080P I can imagine a 1TB dump for 24 hours recording possible in the distant future. So far it took many decades before 480P got upgraded to 1080I so I don't think that is going to happen any time soon but who knows in 2 decades. Are you getting 1080i channels in your region or is it still 480P? I'm suggesting a USB 2.0 transfer rate range that doesn't mean it's "actual" sustained. Like I said XP or any OS while probably lie but when you first rip a Blu-ray from a SATA internal Blu-ray drive I've seen it go pretty high in the first few seconds of the first minute showing a 60MBps speed burst and then drop down slowly and stabilize. This is why I am telling you don't trust short data bursts for a conclusion. Stabilization on USB 2.0 speeds hover around 20-25MB/s and if it continues undisturbed on a single file (meaning it doesn't switch to another file to copy) it can go up to the early 30MB/s range at peak. The old 1TB transfer and a stop watch with good hand eye coordination sometimes is the best method and then do the calculations post. I also don't consider "read" speeds that significant because you can only write as fast as it allows so that's why when you have fast "read" speeds it's because it's cheating through buffering of some kind and gives you the false overhyped speed result. Reading from a source to writing to another is the only accurate reading I trust. Will it do you any good if you can read faster than you can write? I think USB 2.0 read speeds are plenty fast already for most things like Blu-ray 1080P. But transfering TBs of data around you want fast "write" speeds. The fast "read" speeds might help when dumping from a USB 3.0 hard drive to a Ramdrive like I said since the Ramdrive can handle writing probably at the same speed as reading it. A 32GB/64GB Ramdrive will get filled up way too fast and I would consider 1TB a substantial enough amount of data to transfer to get a more accurate result. I reread what you wrote Dibya, weren't you waiting on the SkyLake MB from the repair shop? If you sold the KL and no SkyLake and now have the money then yes get the AsRock Z370 Taichi and i7-8700K when you can find it. The i7-9700K I think will be the same 6C/12T but a little faster. I don't think they will release 8C/16T till Z770/Z870 or Z970/Z1070 and maybe they will have PCIe 4.0, USB 4.0 and 128GB/256GB Max so a big update in 7nm. (Hopes) August 5, 2015 SkyLake i7-6700K - Passmark 11108 January 2017 Kaby Lake i7-7700K - Passmark 12126 i7-6700K to i7-7700K only 8.4% Performance gain for waiting 1 year 5 months should be similar gains for i7-8700K to i7-9700K. Broadwell, SkyLake, Kaby Lake all were 14nm and Cannon Lake is the first 10nm so it is still special. Half my favorite 22nm Ivy Bridge.
  25. That's too small a file to get a good sustained estimate. If USB 3 speeds are truly 500MBps then you want to have at least 1TB of data to do the test and confirm. It's just like copying a 1KB file on USB 2.0. It might look instant like nothing happened. Try again with 1MB same result. Go to 1GB then you see some time elapsed. But go to 1TB of data you can measure the actual time and do a real calculation avoiding any buffering or caching that might influence the result. If I redo a copy of 1GB of data from external hard drive to Ramdrive sometimes the second copy is much faster or almost instant. So until a large enough transfer can be done the results can't be conclusive. Even on Vista 64-bit if I transfer some small 1GB file it gives an exaggerated MB/s which I know isn't true. When I transfer a 100GB the speed will drop around 10 minutes in from the peak. That's why I still recommend 1TB of actual data from a USB drive to Ramdrive or 1TB SSD via USB 3.0 adapter to Ramdrive for the fastest possible result. The Ramdrive would have neglible delay so that's why as a destination it's the best way to get the highest score/time. You could do a 1TB SSD via USB 3.0 adapter to another 1TB SSD via USB 3.0 adapter but it will be slower for sure but still the fastest possible speeds no one would normally get between two USB 3.0 hard drives. Another test I just thought of is I have a few of those USB 3.0 RAID enclosures. If I sandwich (2) 1TB SSD to get 2TB in RAID via USB 3.0 and copy 2TB to another identical (2) 1TB SSD RAID via USB 3.0 and do a file transfer this should saturate the bandwidth even further. So until prices for 1TB SSDs come down you can get 4 of these with two USB 3.0 RAID adapters this test will probably be one way to attain peak USB 3.0 speeds without a 1TB Ramdrive.
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