i meant it lightly. Even if Linux has '2' viruses (I think thats right), he should be able to use almost any Linux LiveCD including Knoppix, to safely and easily backup his data. [edit] Also you would need root access, this makes it highly improbable. I know of the BartPE Avast CD (exp), and BitDefender LinuxDefender Live! (free) BootCD's. [edit] didnt notice you second post. If he can post, he probably download the distro, or use a public library, or ask a freind to download it. Its a good thing to have. Also worth mentioning is there are decent Free anti virus scanners, just advising not using Norton.