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I didn't think it really mattered much but since I didn't get into computers until the early Pentium 4 days, I never really got to learn much about Pentium IIIs too much. I like how the PIII is connected to a slotket. I was surprised how well the one I have works. I saw on ebay but a tad expensive but probably not so much for what it is, a tualatin adaptor. But I wonder if it would work on an existing slotket. I don't really see why not but then you never know with these sorts of things. For what I use my Kayak for, a 300MHz boost might be a bit useful.

Thanks for the tips, you guys. I've extensively tested out the other SL52R and it seems to be running more reliably. I played Majora's Mask on it and it was actually quite playable on it whereas it wasn't so much on the other SL52R, it just acted quirky. I myself would have to agree with TELVM as that's what I was thinking myself. LOL, jaclaz. Truthfully, I like the older Dell computers but because of the bad experience I had with a few of them, it might make me think a bit more before I'd purchase another one from them. And it's possible you could be right too. But something makes me wonder and it could be a simple matter of Googling it, but I noticed some Coppermines had full Intel printing on the chip whereas the ones I have have very minimal markings, almost like it was a different revision of the PIII. For example: http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/85-29928-7116/Intel-SL3XT-Pentium-III-600MHz-CPU-Old-Type-.htmlvs http://www.amazon.com/SL52R-Intel-Pentium-1-75V-Processor/dp/B001033DL4. Maybe voltage requirements falls into play? I don't really know.

I have two identical Pentium III SL52Rs. Both work, but I wonder if one could be having some issues since they were both used, I don't know their history. Here's what makes me wonder. First I had the one in a Dell Optiplex GX110 (It originally came with a 733MHz processor, so this was an upgrade I bought), it worked but sometimes seemed just a bit sketchy, like it would stumble just a bit at times. But here's what makes me wonder. I put this same one in my HP Kayak XM600 using a slotket adapter. This first one out of the Dell first made me clear the BIOS using the dip switch, that *could* be expected. However, the system fan seemed to run a bit funky. It would throttle up and down a lot for no apparent reason, and it wasn't normal for this machine. The fact I left the side off and it's still cool should allow plenty of cool air flow to go through the case. Windows also seemed like it would have to think a bit longer than usual in order to complete commands. So, I took the other identical PIII and placed it in the slotket and put it into the Kayak and booted it up. It works perfectly. The system fan doesn't play around, it works normally, and Windows doesn't seem to act funky either. However, I've read where if a processor goes, it just goes and that's it. But is that really the truth, or could you have a damaged processor that still works but isn't reliable? I want to put it through a few tests now to push the processor to its limits to see what happens.

I'm not sure where to post this but I don't think it warrents it's own thread since it's only a mild irritant. . There's a fangame called Five Nights At Treasure Island based off of Five Nights at Freddy's. Anyway, I haven't tested it with a vanilla version of Windows 2000 SP4 but with the extended kernel, the music in the background will not play and if you try out the remastered demo, the music will not play and you will not hear the phone calls either. The only thing you'll hear is the camera sound effects and when Photonegative Mickey jumpscares you. Testing on Windows 7, the game audio works just fine, but the part that gets me is the audio works just fine on Windows 98 as well. So I wondered what Windows 2000's problem is. DEMO: http://anart1996.deviantart.com/art/Five-Nights-At-Treasure-Island-DEMO-497691415 Remastered: http://anart1996.deviantart.com/journal/Five-Nights-At-Treasure-Island-REMASTERED-BETA-509697138

I have a non-activation version of Windows XP Professional since I was in an IT class and we used it, but I still use Windows 2000 mainly because I still prefer it over XP. I do agree though that certain things are getting harder to do on Windows 2000, even with KernelEx, such as using newer drivers or even a few programs. I still don't know if and when I have to abandon 2000 as my main computing solution if I'll switch over to Windows XP or if I'll bite the bullet and just use Windows 7. I like XP over 7 because it isn't so sluggish. I don't care what people say about 7 or even 8 for that matter, if you have an older computer from the mid to late 2000s, Windows 7 will always be a bit sluggish. I really can't imagine how they have 1GHz as a minimum processor. That's a Pentium 3 coppermine....apparently the minimum is kept in mind with people who have a lot of time on their hands. But when something stops responding in 7, I hate how it turns white and basically holds up the entire computer. So I do think XP is a better choice overall to use.

Thanks a lot, xper!

Still seems to be off a bit, I can see xper as the last poster, but I still can't navigate pages easily like other threads.

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/173488-windows-98-machine-being-a-pill I don't know how it appears to other people, but I was posting a reply last night to fellow member drugwash and I happened to reply and ended up with a database error. I tried getting back to it last night and couldn't so I gave up. Today I had a few replies but on my end, I didn't see them at all, it just appeared like I was the last person who replied. Now when I went into the thread, the last post appeared from submix8c. I tried to reply to him and no matter what, I couldn't get it to work right. I had another database error but then my reply appeared to go through...but then I couldn't see it. So I tried it again. It went through fine but I couldn't see it. Apparently, there's now a page two that I couldn't see and I have no page counter for me to skip to the different pages on the thread. I don't know how it appears to other people but I have two different browsers on this computer and both of them are acting in the same fashion. I think last night's database error screwed something up in it. I can't figure out how to get to page 2 now without actually typing it into the address bar.

Edit: I'm having some major funked out issues....please delete my double posts! Thanks for the tip, I didn't even see it because this thread is a bit glitched due to the forum having difficulties when I was posting last night, I don't even see the post I left drugwash last night either. I might look to see about that BIOS setting as well. Sometimes computers do notice changes but I have run into this before where it doesn't always detect PCI and only looks for AGP and failing that, it goes to onboard which I don't like since I have it on a widescreen television and I need the 13--x768 capability which certain cards don't seem to support, or at least the drivers don't. But moving on from that. All the cards I put in are of lower specs, an NVidia Vanta with only 16MBs of RAM, a Matrox Millennium G400 with 32MBs of RAM, and now a current NVidia GeForce2 MX400 with 64MBs of RAM. All of which seem to run better. It's definitely not a power supply issue so to speak as something else is going on. It could even be a glitched install of Windows 98 now for all I know. I never used to mind reinstalling OSs on the whim but as I've aged I really don't like doing it as much anymore as it seems there's more to back up and then getting it all set up and going again later on. It's more work than I like sometimes. But it seemed the other computers I used this Nvidia Geforce 6200 in also had shutdown problems in 98 so I think that's always expected. I actually took the heatsink off the card today and noticed that the thermal compound wasn't smeared on as nicely as it should've been so I did move it around a bit. It was surprisingly liquidy as over time it just kinda hardens up. I haven't tested it since so I don't know if it could be getting a bit hot as well but I don't necessarily think that's the case. I'm not fond of it not having a fan on it even though it has a plug in which you could plug on in but for 256MBs of RAM, that's quite high not to have at least some bit of air cooling on it. At least that's my opinion. I haven't booted the computer up at all today so I don't know what sort of mood it is in but the GeForce2 acts better in my opinion. I can't jack up the settings so much in my Zelda games like I could with the 6200, but it's still passable. I'd rather have something that works and is stable than something that'll poop out on me while doing something.

Okay, I think I've narrowed quite a bit of this down to the video card itself. So to be exact, it's a PNY NVidia GeForce 6200 AGP with 256MBs of DDR2 vram. This one to be exact: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4116644So with that being said it not really having the easy resources to test this out since I don't have a lot of AGP computers. So here's what I did to try and solve the problem. After switching out a few cards (PCI for some reason will not work in this computer.....), I've had successful shutdowns with no issues. So I thought for *beeps* and giggles, I found a 300W power supply, which is actually required by the manufacturer. Fair enough! Easy swap (almost)! So I put the card back in and....same problems!! Random lockups and problems shutting down. Now I still didn't remove the RAM because it didn't seem to start having issues until I added the 2GBs of RAM in the machine so I don't know if that's still a factor or not. But all the other AGP cards I put in (much lower spec than this one), all worked out just fine! So except for trying out the RAM, is it a possibility that the card itself is just defective?

Alright, so I decided to start investigating the problems of this machine. To my (somewhat) horror, I found the Dell Power Supply that I put into this case only outputs a huge whoppin' 200Ws of power. So my first reacting is eek. I decided to take out the video card (GeForce 6200) and I replaced it with a lot lower end nVidia Vanta video card. Surprisingly, the machine seems to work a lot better! Of course I can't make it my permanent solution because it doesn't support the resolution I need it to and it seems to not like direct 3D on Windows 98, but that could be related to something else. But the machine even shuts down automatically now instead of popping up a message saying error writing to device aux like it had been for a while now. So at this point, I don't think it was quite the power supply but the video card that was being a bit problematic. I can't rule out that it's not slightly defective either as I started having a few issues with it on the other power supply as well. But while testing this card, no blue screens, perfect shutdowns, and no blank screens while booting. So I'm starting to think it could be a bit problematic, especially since one of my friends said the capacitors on that card are known to be stinkers and even though they look perfect, that doesn't always mean much. I'll keep replying to this thread as I make more findings.

Thanks for the tips, TELVM! I appreciate it!

I get exactly where you're coming from. I am the enthusiast and just trying to get the last ounce of power I can out of the computer. I do have lots of other more powerful machines in my stockroom so it's not like I really need another one more powerful. But since I do use it for a few things I wasn't sure if the extra 250MHz would make the biggest bang for the buck that it possibly could.

I have an HP Vectra VLi8 and I'm wondering if upgrading the CPU would benefit me that much. I would like to max everything out on it as much as possible but of course I'm stuck with a 100MHz front side bus. It also has slot 1 as the processor plugin unit. Right now I have a Pentium III 850MHz slot 1 processor in it. Now my suggested upgrade should hypothetical work as long as I follow the voltage but I have a slotket and I was wondering if it would be worth the $12 to upgrade to a Celeron 1.1GHz processor. It's coppermine based which is definitely required as tualatin will not work on this particular adapter. So would upgrading from 850MHz to 1.1GHz while downgrading from a Pentium III to a Celeron be worth it? I cannot seem to find a Pentium III 100MHz front side bus on eBay that would max out the system and if I could, it's usually quite expensive. I don't really use the computer for that much, mainly Zelda64 emulating using Project 64 and then a little bit of web browsing which still seems surprisingly fast for 850MHz, less YouTube of course.

If I may add my two cents in, I'd really go with RLoew's RAM Patch, especially if you really need 2GBs of RAM in XP. I bought it and never regretted it. It's easy to install but sometimes can be overwritten by a service pack if you choose to install them so I keep a folder with the RAM Patch on the root C: drive so I can easily reinstall if need be. I never got the vcache and all that other garbly-gook to work properly anyway. The RAM patch solves all problems and Mr. Loew is great to work with, anytime you have a question, he'll answer you very quickly.

As far as I know, yes you can. Blackwingcat has on a few occasions accidently left Japanese files in an English release of KernelEx and the only thing that's different is the language itself. But if it doesn't work, you can always go into recovery console and uninstall it from there if your machine becomes unbootable as I believe KernelEx always backs up your current setup. But don't 100% quote me that it will be completely compatible, but I don't think there would be a problem.

Thanks for the tips everyone. I probably won't get to this machine at least until next week. I should check the CPU just because I do think it was running a little hotter than I liked it to. Also, the video card is an nVidia GeForce 6800 AGP, it does not have a power connector for it so there's no way I can plug in something else, but even though the card was almost new when I bought it less than a year ago, I've wondered if it has a problem with it.

Welcome to the world of Windows 2000! You're in for one of the greatest rides of your life! Here's what I'd do. Grab tomasz86's HF_SLIP compilation off his website (found via www.windows2000.tk) and copy your installation source to the source folder of HF_SLIP and run the program. I won't explain now how to use it as it is quite straightforward but I'm sure someone can answer your questions or when I'm fully around later, I can too. But then after HF_SLIP stops running, then I use nLite to make a new disk with the new installation files. You still won't have a completely up-to-date system, but pretty dang close. If I recall correctly, the very newest UURollup packages won't install unless you have an older one installed first, like maybe UURollup v10. Seems to me I ran into problems going from vanilla to UURollup v11 but that was eons ago and I don't remember what the problem was.

Thanks for the suggestions! I like that you mentioned Linux because I have tried Linux on this machine a few months ago in fact and at times it acted weird, sometimes I'd have to hard reset the machine. I don't recall having problems with Windows 98 at this point but I do remember the occasional lockup on Linux. At first I thought maybe Linux was just too powerful for this machine and wouldn't work out well on it. Maybe something funny was going on then. @loblo: Why would it be reading positive for -5v? I did put the positive sign in purposely because it was in the positive range, not negative, unless it's suppose to be like that but my main Windows 2000 machine I'm using right now isn't like that. I do have another power supply in stock but the linux problem happened with the other power supply, not this one. So it's likely maybe one of the capacitors are shot. @Tripredacus: What I meant was the bad capacitors used in the older Dells like the Optiplex GX270, which I owned and it suffered bad capacitor fate which I was hoping I'd get lucky on but didn't.

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll certainly look at all possibilities. Since the computer itself cost me nothing when I got it, I'd say I had a great run with it while it lasted. I do think stressing the hardware would be a great place to start. This is my board: http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=U8668%20PRO I do not know if this came from the time of bad capacitors or not, but it's likely. I had another computer given to me that had a Biostar board in it and died after 3 boot ups and when I thought I accidentally damaged the socket (775), I found it had two slightly bulged capacitors right by the CPU so I trashed it. I didn't think it was worth fixing anyway. Edit: Alright, so I tried both speedfan and hardware monitor. I'm still getting flimsy readings. HWMonitor is reading -12v at around -4.30 and -5v around -16. Speedfan is reporting -12v at around -11.26 and -5v at around +3.84. So something is definitely screwed up.

I do not believe there's a similar project for Windows NT 4.0 sadly. That's one reason why I've sort of given up using it, even though I like NT 4. The only thing I know of that exists for NT4 is a transformation pack that makes NT4 look a bit like Windows Vista and the link can be found in this forum, but that just changes the looks, it won't change the functions. BWC's FCW doesn't even run on NT4 and just crashes with an error message. So someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe I am.

Thanks for the tips, I'm not sure if the capacitors are bad or not as I did inspect the board when I moved it over to a different case because I needed the one it was originally housed in for a full sized ATX board. But I don't remember seeing any bad ones. This 'computer' was indeed going to be sent to recycle by the local computer shop and I saved it from its demise and for months it seemed perfectly fine. As for the PSU, this is where I wish I could remember if it started before or after I started using a different one. It seems to me that it started when I was using the original PSU and even with a different one that I'm using now, it still has the same results. The CMOS battery would be the easiest to change and even test to see if it is low or not. I might even swap RAM modules to see if it could be doing something funky even though memtest said no. I know the computer has been sketchy with automatic shutdowns as well so it's possible ACPI could be doing something funny as well. It didn't always but it seems ever since I put in the new RAM, it starts saying error writing to device aux and then if gives the standard fail, retry, etc options. So it's hard to say exactly what's going on here. Edit: Also, MalwareBytes found the machine as being clean, so that's not the issue. Edit 2: I had another thread started that I didn't think really meant too much as Dencorso said probably not, but I'll throw it on the table here. Going into the BIOS and into the PC Health Section, the CPU Vcore -5V was being reported around -61.69V. So the machine is still working so it can't be right, but is it possibly something is being fouled up because of this, perhaps a sensor is giving off the wrong readings?

Alright, so I'm having major woes with my Windows 98 machine. Random issues have crept up and now it's almost unusable at times. Symptom 1: The machine boots and almost gets to the GUI, but then it's just a black screen and the monitor says no video signal. Symptom 2: Random BSoD mainly concerning 0028:-------, which generally are random numbers, but the 0028 is always the same. Right now I'm working on a remote Malware Bytes scan and attempting an AVG scan but AVG isn't working out so well right now. I have no antivirus protection on my 98 machine but I only go to a handful of sites with it, mainly YouTube, here, and occasionally Facebook but that's only to check things out, I don't really do anything with it. So I don't know if I have a bug on the machine or not, so that's what I'm testing out. Now, this machine does have 2GBs of RAM with the RLoew patch installed. I have done a Memtest on the RAM, but only with one pass, but the RAM was found to be clean. I have done no further testing with the RAM since, but this is one of my prime suspects as I didn't seem to have this problem until I installed this RAM. I did have the processor slightly overclocked from 2.6GHz to 2.75GHz which since I've reverted because I thought it may be causing problems. It's a P4 Northwood and I heard those can be slightly sketchy. But so far I don't know what the issue is. The computer itself doesn't seem to have the problem, just Windows 98. So if anyone has any ideas on what I can start troubleshooting on, all help is appreciated. Otherwise I'm just going to bring one of my older machines out and use it for the time being as I really don't want to format the drive if I don't have to since I do have some important data on it and I don't really want to deal with backing it all up just yet. Speaking of which, the hard drive doesn't appear to be failing either but of course it's always a possibility too. Today the BSoD happened while in the middle of a Markiplier video and I wasn't doing anything except watching it.... Edit: This machine also has the USP3 and KernelEx 4.5.2 installed on it.

All drives are PATA and I only have one hard drive, a Seagate Barracuda ST340015A (5LAK0QQF). Sorry it took so long, had some personal issues to work out! files.zip

The only reason I at first suspected it was before the computer wasn't doing that before I added in the 2GBs of RAM and installed the patch. That's the only reason I suspected the patch at first but I have it going on a few test machines and it's not doing that so it's hard to say what's causing it. I could throw in an extra hard drive and reinstall 98 on that and see if anything causes the problems again or not. But sometimes during bootup it seems like 98 just stops loading and the computer freezes up so I think there are a few issues going on and it could very well be from a bad installation.