jaclaz

Sure, but the question is "how much" is 300 Gs? Good, exactly the kind of answer I was trying NOT to get. I see a drive falling (and landing) in the same manner a brick would, no belly flop and no water. I'll try again, given that: a drive won't do belly flops or whatever usually in houses and offices there is NO water underneath, but a floor for what it matters a brick will behave exactly the same How many g will the drive brick experience when falling from three feet on the floor (we can have three answers/ranges, say, concrete/ceramics - wood - carpet)? We are already supposed to know that the answer(s) is/are in the 100-2,000g range, but we have this limit of 300 that we must place somewhere. jaclaz

Then you are using the "wrong" tool/approach. Read here: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=14181 (tutorials in Dietmar's signature) AND here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...19963&st=23 AND here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9830 Take you time digesting the info. Then come back if you have questions/problems. jaclaz

YES. http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollar...no-answers.html If you also want to know the reason, it is that you fiddled with it in every which way you can (and one more) and possibly you have some corrupted data in the MBR, bootsector, or both. (Most probably the MBR, judging from the message). If you also want help in attempting recovering it, start a new thread here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=19 or here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=67 as it has nothing to do with the bricking which is hopefully solved. jaclaz

Wait a minute. You want to: install XP ON a USB Hard Disk Drive (meaning that you want later to boot and run XP FROM the USB hard disk drive) OR install XP FROM a USB Hard Disk Drive (meaning that you want later to boot and run FROM an internal hard disk drive) Please choose one of the above. jaclaz

Videoripper has just posted here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...807&st=2475 an actual photo of a hard disk label where it is printed in large, friendly letters: I got curious in what 300 Gs (which should actually read as g -you normally don't put the plural on symbols of units of measurement ) do represent in layman's terms. There are quite a number of posts in forums around where mostly inexperienced people threw in hearsay, absurd calculations, semi-random numbers and what not. A quick check on Wikipedia clears some aspects: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_hard_drive_protection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerometer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_(mechanics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk_(physics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_(mechanics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse whilst documents from the actual manufacturers, like these: http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/vecto...lprotection.pdf http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/whitepaper/MB585_gforce.pdf once stripped off the fluff, say next to nothng useful. Anyway I seem no to be able to find ANYTHING giving an adequate answer to this question: This document is finally clearing something: http://www.memsic.com/data/pdfs/Accel%20Primer.pdf though knowing that equals: can hardly be called "narrowing" the problem. Would anyone REALLY (which means NOT "from what I remember from physics at high school, if you divide space by mass and multiply by PI you get ....." kind of thing) understanding the matter provide some calculations/examples? jaclaz

@duffy98 It is much more complex than what you think. Please start a new thread where we can discuss this issue without hijacking the present thread. jaclaz

Good. jaclaz

Sorry I missed the part where you wrote: "I am using a modified Windows 98 install floppy boot disk image using JO.SYS as El-Torito floppy emulation using MSCDEX.EXE " Boy, do I hate these Romulan cloaking devices! jaclaz

CD-RECORD/CDRtools: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html and/or a GUI for them: http://www.paehl.de/home.htm http://dpaehl.dd6338.kasserver.com/cdr/cddvdiso.php http://dpaehl.dd6338.kasserver.com/cdr/CD_DVD_COPY.php You don't need to actually mount a .iso and use Beyond Compare or similar utilities, just create an compare the MD5 hashes of them. http://www.fastsum.com/ http://www.etree.org/md5com.html http://www.winmd5.com/ Also, slightly off topic, but related: http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/ http://www.oemailrecovery.com/cd_recovery.html http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2172 This is "the real thing" (though you won't like it's price): http://www.infinadyne.com/cddvd_inspector.html "Poor man's" version: http://www.infinadyne.com/cddvd_diagnostic.html jaclaz

It seems like on some machines it is possible to disable ACPI.SYS: http://www.techtalkz.com/windows-xp/10281-...-cpu-usage.html Or maybe using a nonACPI HAL? A couple references to a similar issue with battery: http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-3...tting-Down.html http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/forum...cess-print.html jaclaz

Naah, I don't think that you will get a noticeable difference in everyday work putting on an ATA33 bus a 7200 RPM instead of a 5400 RPM one, BUT if the drive onboard cache is bigger, then you will notice it. http://www.wdc.com/en/library/eide/2579-001043.pdf http://www.storagereview.com/articles/9808...ataroundup.html http://www.storagereview.com/articles/9907...oundup1999.html http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200511/notebook_1.html Please note that 7200 vs 5400 is a bit pointless, a "good" 5400 can have so similar performance to a "bad" 7200 that you won't be able to tell the difference. jaclaz

Interesting problem. Though the actual "good" way to backup a CD is to make a .iso file of it. (please read as dd-like copy), remember that a .iso is a CD and a CD is a .iso. jaclaz

Just checked, VFD: http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html can create/mount AND format 2.88 images allright (but of course they'll have NT bootsector, so you need anyway an utility to change the bootsector). Let's see what's comes out of this: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=10410 jaclaz

Same here , it seems like there is a new (lower) timeout when you reply. jaclaz

To begin with, why did you used a "customized" version of the floppy? (without saying so, and I had to "extort" this info) Anyone is wondering WHY in the suggested and referenced batch: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...18045&st=25 I have written the following?: @dencorso Nice to meet you again, Mr. de La Palice jaclaz

It means ALL tokens. Here: http://www.robvanderwoude.com/batchfiles.php http://www.robvanderwoude.com/for.php http://www.robvanderwoude.com/ntfor.php http://www.robvanderwoude.com/ntfortokens.php jaclaz

Problem is that XP will only be able to create a 1.44 floppy with "Bootable MS-DOS" in it's "Format" dialog. In Winimage: Options->Settings->Image->Uncheck all check boxes and set compression to None File->New->Format 2.88 File->Save As->288.ima Image->Bootsector Properties->Windows 95/98 ->OK Image->Inject-> (Inject FIRST, and in this order: IO.SYS MSDOS.SYS COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT) theln all other files File->Save OR, open a copy of your floppy image, then: Image->Chnage Format->2.88 Save as Otherwise get these: http://www.nu2.nu/mkbt/ http://www.nu2.nu/bfi/ In IMdisk: Mount New Input 1474560 Bytes in "Size of Virtual Disk" set "device type" Floppy Input Letter "B" Select drive Format->Check "Create bootable MS-DOS" Select drive -> Save Image->C:\bootfiles\144.img Open a Command prompt: mkbt -c B: C:\bootfiles\bootsect.bin bfi -v -t=288 -b=C:\bootfiles\bootsect.bin -f=C:\bootfiles\288.img In IMdisk: Mount New Select C:\bootfiles\288.img set "device type" Floppy Open the mounted drive and copy files to it Unmount both drives This way you will have the 288.img with the "XP MS-DOS" bootsector (please read as "DOS 8.0/Windows Me"). You can use mkbt on "another" floppy image (like the one you already have in your hands) to get it's bootsector. jaclaz P.S.: However you are right, there is something that looks like "not right" when you try to format/extend a floppy image in IMDISK, I'll submit the issue to Olof.

2K seems just right to me also. If you only have XP, if you remove some of the fluff with nlite and remove the unneeded services, it should run (let's say conventionally "walk" ) decently as well. It's a bit "asymmetric" IMHO, slow CPU/plenty of RAM, machines of that period usually have a 600 Mhz CPU and 128/256 Mb of Ram. jaclaz

It seems like down. Since it is still in google cache, it may be a temporary problem. Wayback Machine: http://www.archive.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://bhashaindia.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bh...com/Downloads/* Zip: TBILConverter05122006.zip giving data retrieval error right now. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bh...egory.aspx?ID=4 Maybe these help: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_hindi..._type_font.html http://rajbhasha.nic.in/unicode_solution.pdf http://www.ildc.in/ jaclaz

That's exactly what you think, which can (or cannot) be accurate . As long as you don't want the partition anymore and you are sure about it, you don't need to read the given thread (which theme is actually the opposite, how to recover a recovery partition after the user had botched the original MBR with PM or Acronis). If you trust Acronis, go on and remove the recovery partition. jaclaz

You can make a 2.88 Mb floppy image allright. Maybe there is some error in the procedure you are following. You can use IMDISK allright: http://www.ltr-data.se/opencode.html#ImDisk Maybe easier would be if you create your 2.88 Mb image with this: http://www.nu2.nu/mkbt/ http://www.nu2.nu/mkbt/#buildimage http://www.nu2.nu/bfi/ Or with the Shareware WinImage: http://www.winimage.com/ Which actual type/release of DOS would the image use? What is the "dos-prog" ? Can you name it and possibly provide a link to it's home site? jaclaz

@chinbender The linked to .exe is nothing but a "self-burning" .iso image, El-torito floppy emulation DOS 2.88 Mb image. I creates an 8 Mb ramdisk, and unzips to it: brnkmoos.cfs FDL.bat fdl.exe flash.BAT HP26CE2D.bin HP26CE3D.bin HP2ACE2H.BIN Contents of flash.BAT are pretty much straightforward: cls Echo off set model=%model1% Echo ************************************************************ Echo * * echo * WARNING! F/W update will take approximately 1 minute! * echo * DO NOT REMOVE POWER DURING THIS TIME!! * echo * * echo * You will see the command prompt when it is safe * echo * to remove power. * echo * * echo ************************************************************ echo Seagate Firmware Download Utility v4.71 set softrst=none fdl -s -b -x -v -h BrnkMoos.cfs if errorlevel=9 goto ALREADY if errorlevel=4 goto error if errorlevel=2 goto WRONGMODEL if errorlevel=0 goto done :done echo. echo **************************************************************** echo * * echo * Eject the CD and power down your PC. * echo * * echo * After you power down the firmware update will be complete * echo * and you can restart your PC. * echo * * echo **************************************************************** goto end :ALREADY cls echo. echo ()========================================================() echo () () echo () You drive already has correct firmware version. () echo () () echo ()========================================================() goto end :WRONGMODEL cls echo. echo @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ echo @ @ echo @ Specific hard disk model not found or not a Seagate drive @ echo @ @ echo @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ goto end :error cls echo. echo ************************************************************ echo ************************************************************ echo ** ** echo ** DRIVE NOT DETECTED ** echo ** ** echo ************************************************************ echo ************************************************************ :end Which ultimately sums up to: echo Seagate Firmware Download Utility v4.71 set softrst=none fdl -s -b -x -v -h BrnkMoos.cfs if errorlevel=9 goto ALREADY if errorlevel=4 goto error if errorlevel=2 goto WRONGMODEL if errorlevel=0 goto done It seems to me quite obvious that if - for any reason - the drive is not detected, you get the "error". Is this what you get when you run it? The CD seems to me like pretty much "portable", in the sense that it doesn't *look* like making any check about running on HP hardware, so the easiest solution is: buy, rent, borrow, steal ANY other PC which has in it's BIOS a "IDE compatibility mode setting and flash your drive on that PC The HP tool in other words, seems very like the "normal" Seagate ones: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/self...&NewLang=en (I mean the .iso's there) JFYI, and in case of further problems: http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/messag...ssage.uid=37144 An alternative would be getting the Seagate .exe and modify it's contents (look into "config.xml" ), but it is however risky business, and I would not personally update the firmware of anything under Windows, as there are more things that can go wrong than those that can go right, unless you have a very, very clean system disconnected from anything, etc., etc. jaclaz

IMHO: The KB977165, yes. Microsoft hosing a number of PC's with a wrong update, and the phone support sucking, NO, these are not "news". jaclaz

What the heck! Good morning Monsieur de La Palice : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_la_Palice That is EXACTLY what the menu.lst entry Lonecrusader used does (and that most probably creates the error), and that I suggested avoiding, (having command prompt working as a result) jaclaz

Uh-uh!!! (Probably) Won't work!!! Original is only (proabably) good for CD's. Have you tried the Bart's JO.SYS Replacement? Not sure if this will work, but hey (and I believe it WILL work)... Have any of you considered the possibility that JO.SYS (whichever version) is ONLY working on a "direct" floppy-emulation booting CD and that it won't work with grub4dos mapping, and that I intentionally gave the commands to bypass it? Besides, with grub4dos it is ALSO unneeded: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16980&st=5 jaclaz