kalavera

I'm not 100% sure, but from the preliminar tests i have done ... only .msi has this problem, maybe because the way msiexec works. But like i told you ... not really sure of this. All the problems i had, was principally with .msi installations, and this fix was effective.

And do you use runonceex to install your apps? Also i didnt told that winrar has any problem ... not at all. Its a general problem in sfx (7z or sfx) when executing the after extract command (they by default, dont wait to finish). Also i told that using Winrar sfx TempMode, winrar does this automatically, not needing to use "startx /w" for example. The reality is ... after changing the installers to use the technic i told, all worked perfect after that. No overlapping of running installers. And since this can be applied also to svcpack-able installers ... its a good practice to use it, since both worlds can benefit from it

This is not related with sfx. Its the "only-one instance" of WinRAR GUI option.

After many time of workarounds and time spend in making windows installs, i have found the problem for some installations based on runonceex, not working 100%. I dont want to copy-paste the explanation, so i put a link to my post: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=558393 And from what i can see, many "runonceex-able" unattended installers aren't aware of this problem. So i ask to their makers, if they can apply the simple fixes i suggest in the post. In resume the solutions: 1 - Use WinRAR Sfx in TempMode, and then just call the command example: Setup=msistub.exe firefox.msi /qb TempMode Silent=1 Overwrite=1 2 - Use StartX or RunHiddenConsole utilities (both freeware). Join them in your sfx pack and invoke the command like this: examples: StartX.exe /WAIT \"msiexec /i netfx.msi /qb-!\" RunHiddenConsole.exe /w msiexec /i netfx2.msi /qn Note: anything related with this subject, reply here. I hope that i could help! Thanks for your time.

One again here i am But this time i found the problem and a solution. The problem: Like i thinked the problem is because of not waiting that the setup of a ware finishes before another one starts. Causing all the problems i mentioned, even the one with firefox. Its not a runonceex problem, because it always waits for the sfx to extract. The problem is inside the sfx. Also notices that there is no difference between having the items in runonceex, all in differente entries or using subcommands (like i used before). Searching this forums i found that someone had the same problem : http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=55193 In the topic there are many solutions ... but none works ... only the last one And is related with the WinRAR SFX TempMode. Winrar when using this mode, automatically waits for the installing program finish. Tested and worked 100%. Without using the TempMode, winrar just executes the command and leaves, so it needs a solution like the one i tell next. Another solution is using StartX.exe freeware utility or the RunHiddenConsole.exe (tried with "start /wait", and like told in the topic ... doesnt work) to run the msiexec or msistub inside the sfx, after the extraction. This technic is used for example in the installation of .net frameworks unattended packs (found at the forum). After this ... all i have to say is thank you to all. And sorry for all this posts and reply's

delete me. sorry

But there isnt a way to create the shortcuts in All Users folder even during runonce? This way wouldnt be a problem. And about the add/remove entries ... its a normal behavior in your installers? Would be nice to have it. I dont like the svcpack method for applications :S So i have all my unattended apps installing in runonceex. Firefox keeps giving me that error and doesnt install :S A sidenote: why do you extract to %systemroot%\Installer instead of using TempMode from WinRAR sfx? For example using this sfx code : Setup=msistub.exe livemess.msi /qb TempMode Silent=1 Overwrite=1

We were writing the reply and editing the post at the same time Please check the edit note in the previous post. Thanks. PS: Its not corporate version (i know it doesnt exists) ... just a modified version by me with some extra themes incorporated & tweaks.

Hi ... thanks for the quick reply. I have tested again my runonceex, with those modifications you suggested (putting each ware in a different entry). The results continue ... none of your silent installers (live messenger or firefox) are installed. Maybe the problem is about the extraction to temp directory or something :S Also during firefox 1.5.0.7 installation there is an error popup "7-zip" "Can not delete output file".. Also note: now only this firefox error appears ... but messenger and firefox arent installed in the end! All the other ware's are installed correctly. But like i told in the previous post ... my old script always worked 100% ... installing frameworks, utilities, office, codecs, etc ... only when i changed from the original messenger msi to your's ... this problems started. here it is part of the modified runonceex script: REG ADD %KEY%\020 /VE /D "[ Utilities Installation ]" /f REG ADD %KEY%\021 /VE /D " - WinRAR 3.60 Corporate Edition ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\021 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\WINRAR\wrar360ce.exe /s" /f REG ADD %KEY%\022 /VE /D " - Windows Live Messenger 8.0812 ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\022 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\MSNMSGS\msglive80812.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\023 /VE /D " - Windows Live Messenger - Ink Installer ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\023 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\MSNMSGS\InkInstaller.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\024 /VE /D " - Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.7 ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\024 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\FIREFOX\firefox1507.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\025 /VE /D " - Mozilla Firefox - Extensions ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\025 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\FIREFOX\ffexts.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\026 /VE /D " - Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\026 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\PDFREADER\AR708.exe" /f EDIT I noticed that live messenger is extracted to the program files folder and works, but there isnt any entry in add/remove programs (messenger or ink installer), and noticed that the only shortcut created is in the administrator account start menu. Thats why i told before it wasnt installed :S Sorry. But even then ... maybe it needs this issues fixed. Like for example the start menu created in the All Users folder. Firefox continues to not be installed. About the modified original .msi ... i just thought it would be easier that way, because it would garanty a fully correct install, and future automatic updates would be smooth (for example when messenger tells ppl that there is a new version, he tried automatically to install it, and this way wouldnt be a problem). Before this was my method ... but now i cant get to modify the original .msi :S So i found your silent installers and used them! Dont want with this to tell that your way is not good ... just different. Thanks!

I'm having problems with installing messenger during runonceex. I notice that if i put it before another installer (using also msi), your installer brokes the installation, because appears a message telling me that another install is in progress. Maybe you launch the installation of messenger but dont wait for it to finish, before continuing. This way the other installers crash. As a note, if i dont put your installer in my runonceex script, my installation is ok. Here it is a sample of my runonceex script: REG ADD %KEY%\011 /VE /D "Utilities Installation ..." /f REG ADD %KEY%\011 /V 1 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\MSNMSGS\msglive80812.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\011 /V 2 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\MSNMSGS\InkInstaller.exe" /f REG ADD %KEY%\011 /V 3 /D "%CD%\INSTALL\PDFREADER\AR708.exe" /f In this case normally breaks in the Acrobat Reader installation (since it also uses MSI). Another question: Is you installer compatible with the original installer? What i mean is, if there is an update or if i try to install a newer version using the original installer over this one, works fine? Thanks for all, and keep the good work!

Hi ZileXa, like you have found, the TileView "trick" is not done, or even possible to be used by a regtweak. I use a technic in .net to send a "change the desktop to a tileview" message. Currently is done by a timer (resending that message only when needed), since when the desktop needs to be refreshed, all changes done after that are lost. The deskview program is done in assembly win32 (xpize settings is done in .net 2.0), and uses a dll memory hack technic to implement the trick. About the transparency thing ... since xpizesettings also changed the icons desktop color, maybe this can be improved ... but right now i dont have time. Just give me some weeks and i will try to improve it. Thanks for the comments.

Hi all. Sorry for the slow response. I have been very busy :S For the moment it isn't possible to do what you want. The settings are loaded based on the current user. So a Allusers approach isnt possible. If i have time, i can try to make a solution in this way: - if exists a XPizeSettings.AllUsers.dat, all other users settings will be ignored and those settings will be loaded. - i cant promise that it will work fully in a unattended environment (i'm thinking for example enabling autorun of xpizesettings, but i will take a look on it) Can't promise a timeline, but i will look for it soon. BTW: Any other suggestions ? Thanks.

Strange ... since you are using the OS i also use ... i will try to investigate further this issue.

I'm the creator of XPize Settings. Can you be more specific with the problems? what is the version of the program? OS? Its as been tested many times but in a 32-bit Windows Pro SP2. And since those features you mention are based on win32 system calls, maybe there is a OS incompatibility or something. A note ... some of the settings are just temporary (its a limitation of Windows), like the desktop view settings (tile, small icons, transparent background), so they need to be "refreshed" by enabled the choosen settings and the timer, and then keep running the program in the background. Sometimes i'm a bit busy, so i'm not always around the forums, sorry for that ppl.

New version of the same idea, a bit more "xpized"

Here it is my idea for the logo ...

I wasnt able to reproduce the bug, and i tried many styles & different DPI. But the next version will have a resizable gui. Thanks to all.

about the changes made in xpize settings : - the desktop view style it isn't a permanent change so this is not the source of the problem; - but i think i know where is the problem : when changing the icons sizes i also "force" the Shell Icon BPP to 32. Like Xpero told normally all the users now use 32bits ... and xpize is intended for those users. I think a way to fix your problem is going to registry manually and revert that setting to 16: HKCU\\Control Panel\\Desktop\\WindowMetrics item: Shell Icon BPP value: 16

xpize settings developer - i can't reproduce the bug here ... i have tested with classic mode, luna theme and luna element 4 and works perfect. almost for sure its a problem with some themes.

i'm not being able to play DRM / WMV-HD movies using the integrated wmp10 (for example the latest doom movie trailer in wmv-hd) After trying to play it with wmp10 an error appears telling that cannot play because of an error verifying the license. Any help to fix it? If i reinstall wmp10 manually over, works ...

Both bugs fixed! (in the version 1.3.7.0 sent to xpero ) The first was related to disabling WMI and my one-instance test (calling the getprocess). Solved by disabling the one-instance test The second (invalidcast exception) was a problem when the HideIcons registry entry didn't exist. Fixed! Sorry all for the slow response but i wasn't at home all this week and i didnt had my notebook (went to repair and still haven't arrived ) Thanks for the bug reports to all!

I'm aware of the problem and i will try to fix it ASAP .. but the problem is that i'm not able to reproduce it here I will try to look at the source code and apply some extra debug layers, but i'm not at home atm (maybe during the weekend).

@recordbreaker: the problem is this: the desktop view's and the transparency are just "memory hacks" to the desktop, so they are not permanent. there are many ways to solve this ... the one i used is to have a timer refreshing those options, if changed, every 5s. There are another more elaborate ways like api hook or dll patching ... but i dont like those. I also added the option to save & restore the selected options and the start with windows feature, so this can help in your problem. More suggestions are welcome

@all: Hi i'm kalavera and i'm the xpize settings program developer. About the Tile mode wasn't active in that version because there was some problems, but its done in the next version with many other features About the hide desktop icons ... i will investigate and see if i can add the feature.

HI! I have found a bug. The generated installer doesn't register the nerocom.dll in the system. This is needed so programs that use Nero API, work. But i also have the solution, its simple. It just needs to add some new registry entries. To manually fix, just edit the register.reg file and add this entries manually. Hope it helps, kalavera PS: the nero install path is the default path and is hardcoded, with a simple script this can be easily integrated. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}] @="Nero Class" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}\InprocServer32] @="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead\\Nero\\NeroCom.dll" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}\ProgID] @="Nero.Nero.1" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}\Programmable] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}\TypeLib] @="{C6E033E3-925F-11D4-8214-420BF9000000}" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F3FBC8E5-93A3-11D4-8217-A85459000000}\VersionIndependentProgID] @="Nero.Nero" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\shared] "NeroAPI"="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead\\Nero"