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@evilvoice: gak! How you do that! Nice work I have also worked out how to set the service to install as disabled, not manual, will post a transform file for the installer. If you want to change yours, if WinstallLE offers a table editing facility : In the 'ServiceInstall' table, for the 'Bonjour Service' set start to '4' in the 'ServiceControl' table, for the 'Bonjour Service' set Event to '162' good work! SP.

@evilvoice: You are very correct! In the raw msi, it is in the 'ServiceInstall' table - dont know how I could have missed that, doh! I think I can modify that to make it disabled, hunting google now. Thanks for the heads-up . Some people may need this service, so will keep the original installed, but probably post a transform to change it. Need to test for a while in a VM first. Did you modify my version, or the original? @rikgale: yeah, I can post both the iTunes and QT localized files on the main page. Edit : QT7 (English Only) link put on main page SP

@rikgale: Thanks for that, and sorry for the inconvenience. I'll wait to put the link on the main page, to see if you get the bonjour-stop script working. @evilvoice: i'll upload the QT-English-only version now then, no probs. Regarding the bonjour service, there is nowhere I can find in the msi that registers the service. I suspect that it is done by a custom action that calls one of their custom dll's, or is done by the compiled installshield script. This new version breaks the inx decompiler that I used to use, so cant edit that . I posted the code above to disable it in a batch though, so once rikgale has put that into a silent installer it will do the job. SP

You can ask Ok, just 35. But, after 16 years working on ships sailing all over the world, I look and feel a lot older, lol. I had a hard paper round too SP

Hi rikgale. There was a problem with the very first version that I posted here, which I fixed about 10 mins later. On that first version I had integrated all the cabs into 1 (called it Data1.cab) and packed that inside the msi, but forgot to change the pointer to look inside instead of out I guess you must have been so keen and got the original version . So, if you have orca, or any other editor that wont destroy the structure, load up the msi , look in the 'media' table, and change the entry for 'Cabinet' from 'Disk1.cab' to '#Disk1.cab'. That should fix it. Otherwise, download again from the first page. Sorry for the trouble. You are correct, I was very gentle with my alcohol intake last nite - guess I'm getting old . SP.

If using a cmd script, just add '>NUL' at the end of each line (without quotes) to hide any output. Or use quick batch compiler in qhost mode.SP

@evilvoice & rikgale: Thanks . Not a bad nite, still capable of typing, lol. @evilvoice: I created earlier an english only version of Quicktime, got the msi down from 25 meg to 16. This also knocks about 20Mb out of the installed version. Problem is, as usual, since all the localized files are so similar to the normal ones they compress very well - so there is very little diference in sizes once compressed into a silent installer - I think it was about 15Mb final size after 7z. So, if you want this version let me know and I'll post it tomorrow. @rikgale: Thanks for doing the installer, no problems from me - I'll put a link in the main topic. The code you are looking for to stop and disable the bonjour service on XP in a batch / script is : sc stop "bonjour service" sc config "bonjour service" start= disabled Note the space before 'disabled' - that needs to be there. This stops then disables the service. Dunno if that works on other os's, than XP though. You can always stop a service using the 'NET' command on most os's but it will start again at boot: net stop "bonjour service" SP.

I use only Orca to mess with msi files - it's pretty low-level access and easier to control the final msi, however it is more convoluted to use. Also, MsiDB.exe from the MSI SDK to get at the cab files. I started taking a look at the msi / cab, and got it down to about 217 files less. Still more to do, I'll take a look later on. Today is my 'one-year-closer-to-death' day, so I may not be in any fit state to touch a computer later on. Hmm. memo to oneself - hide the modem b4 going out! SP

Heh, Thanks . The (eg) 1033.mst file is responsible, at least, for the licence agreement - I applied the transform during installation : QuicktimeSetup.exe /v"TRANSFORMS=1033.mst"Note: the 'QuicktimeSetup.exe' is a renamed version of the 269kb iTunes setup stub, not the full 32Mg installer. Good Luck SP.

@evilvoice: 1st, thanks for the comments! . I didn't take any of your posts in any way other than constructive advice / information - which is always welcome. This is the problem that you are having, in the Setup.ini : [QuickTime.msi] Type=1 Location=QuickTime.msi [Setup.bmp] Type=1 [ISScript.msi] Type=1 Location=ISScript11.Msi The 'Type=1' tells the installer that the files are compressed internally to the exe file, so it should uncompress to a temp location. However, since we have the files in the dir, this aint gonna work. Change all instances of 'Type=1' above to 'Type=0' and the setup runs. I have not got much further in the install, i'll do it in a VM so as not to screw up my QT-Alt installation. Regarding the msi, I think that if you are on the default english install, the mst is not needed since the msi (as far as the install data goes) is english localised anyway. Otherwise, use Orca to load the mst, and then save the transformed file (you may lose the internal Data1.cab file which is embedded in the msi though, so export that first using whichever tool you prefer). Edit : I'll take a look at the msi later on today, see if I can localize it. SP.

The other option is disable the service using the services manager. I set it to 'disabled', and iTunes ran happily without complaining and without this service running. SP

@canuckerfan: Yes, that's right. Run the .exe file, this is the original iTunes installer. I quess it will support all of the normal switches like the last verison too, for silent etc. @all: If you are not using the 'Bonjour' (apparently part of air-tunes and music sharing) it can be safely disabled from the services panel in windows. I set it to 'disabled', run iTunes and no complaint. It will not try to run it either, just wants it installed. Maybe I'll modify the installer so it installs but not register the service. See later. SP.

Check Here in the main applications forum for version 5 SP

UPDATED 15th Jan 2006 : Added iTunes Version 6.0.2.23 Here is the latest version of iTunes, with quicktime removed as before for those who use the QT alternative. I have also completely stripped out all language files except english, so it's not suitable for any other languages. Tested with the latest version of QT-Alt. Important : iTunes Version 6.0.2.23 needs QT 7.0.4 or greater (or the latest QT-Alt). This must currently be installed before iTunes is installed, otherwise you will get a (non fatal but annoying for unattended installs) error. Version 5.0.1 Will work with any 7.x.x version, and QT can be installed before or after iTunes. The latest version of QT-Alternative is also compatible with both iTunes 5 & 6. Edit : It seems the silent install method hides the QT error, so you can install the Silent Installer version without ANY QT installed and it will not fail. Just remember to install QT or QT-alt before trying to run it. I have stopped using RapidShare for the new version, since some people have problems with that, so both 7z and silent installs are now stored on MegaUpload. Note, for the silent install this time I have used a custom installer 'stub' to replace the batch file (so no cmd box visible or flashing). Please let me know if anyone has any problems. I will eventually release a util that will run cmd/bat files silently without compiling them, specifically for use in silent installers. I will state once again, if you un-install any previous versions of iTunes, ALWAYS reboot before installing the new versions - this causes 99% of all problems with this release (and the original apple installer). Thanks Standard Versions. Version 6.0.2.23: Get it from MegaUpload or RapidShare- 7z file, 8,309,937 Bytes. Version 5.0.1: Get it from Rapidshare - 7z file, 7217055 Bytes. Silent Versions. Version 6.0.2.23 : From Megaupload or RapidShare (Installs for All users, adds Desktop Shortcut, iTunes is not made default media player) Version 5.0.1 : From RapidShare (Provided by RikGale) Note : the 7z version is not a silent installation, just 'slimmed-down'. If you want a silent install of this version, use the one above. As usual, let me know of any problems please. SP

@rikgale: Thanks for the offer, and the compliments I'll host it on rapidshare, and my own webspace again, probably tonight, certainly the archive, and maybe a silent installer if I have time. @evilvoice: I've not tried the gear stuff yet, I dont use myself. I do all my testing on a live machine though, not Virtual. I have only removed localization files, and the Gear ones are generic, so there should be no problems (touch wood). Oh yeah : The 7z file is all the other files archived. My msi with the cab integrated is smaller than the original msi alone, lol. SP.

@rikgale: Yes, delete all the *.lproj directories except for the one for your language. Also, edit the Setup.ini file to something like : [Languages] count=1 default=409409 is the code for English (US), so replace that by your own language code. Also, delete all the 0x0nnn.ini files that are not yours - the nnn is the same code as above. You can get language codes from here. Is also possible to delete all the *.mst files except from the code that is for the language you need - the 4 digit codes can be found on the same page as above. If you are doing a standard english install, delete all the mst files. As an update, I have produced a completely localized (english) install version, zipping up at 7.8Mb in 7z . I have : Removed QuickTime. Removed all localizations from the msi, and the related files from the cabs. Combined all the cabs into one cab, just to be tidy. Kept 'Bonjour'. I can remove it easily, but iTunes complains on startup, so not worth it. I'll probably combine the cab directly into the msi also, so only need the msi and setup files to install. Testing it now on a clean (live, not vm) system, it plays, it updates, it sits there looking shiny and fast Maybe people would be interested in my posting it? SP

@evilvoice: There is an install for them, it is taken care of by the installshield script file (inx) embedded in the msi. That is why the installer exe must be run - it creates all the dialogs (this is why there are no dialogs when you run the msi directly), runs the scripting and choses languages. Anyway, since the installer is 269kb, not really a problem to keep it. I've beem playing again this am, and have got a working install, with the msi down to about 3 meg - all language files except english removed. I am still using the original cabs, but once I finalize the msi I'll erase the extra files from the cabs too. That should cut the install down considerably. Bummer is that since all the localized files are similar, the whole install compresses very well anyway, so I may not gain too muh space after it is 7z into a silent install. Oh well, but the experience and knowledge gained is worth it SP

http://unattended.msfn.org/. Go to intermediate users, applications, then office XP or 2003. Chose the advanced method, this stores your details and serial in the installation, plus a lot of other config options. SP

@evil voice: That does not work for a clean install. It does not install the CD burning tools, or CDDB drivers, and so gives errors on each run. It may have worked as an upgrade, cos you still have the 4.9 version of these files and reg entries installed. Also, the ipod and itunes helper services are not installed, so it's pretty useless. It's been said before, you cant install properly unsing only the msi, you ned the setup files also. As a side note, my iTunes.msi is about 3meg, just by taking out some of the localization files. Even if you kept the setup and ini files, it would only work properly in an english install - this installer has 13 other languages in it..... SP

It's part of the Air-tunes and music sharing. Problem is, even if you dont use these, it still installs. I managed to install without them, but iTunes complains each time it runs. Guess te best thing is to block them at your firewall if you dont use these functions. SP

I was waiting for you! Actually, the full version that can be downloaded from the 'english' itunes page is International - 14 languages. So, if you follow the steps above, in my last post, you can have any language you want! I have been playing with this installer, got it without QT (easy) and have also managed to stop the 'Bonjour' service from being installed - the problem is that itunes checks for this (hardcoded into the exe) and complains at startup if the service is not there. It will work properly after, but just that one complaint every time you run it. Give my a few hours to play - i'm working in a totally 'english' version without any of the internationalistations, so I'll post that with info maybe today or tomorrow (insomnia sucks). The more I look at this installation, the more 'thrown-together' it seems. Its installshield 11, msi based, with discreet M$-compatible cab files, packed up in a winrar sfx - an unusual combination SP

i have posted in the iTunes 4.9 topic here a basic method to remove quicktime 7. When i get some sleep i'll look at a proper hack tomorrow. SP

iTunes Version 5 : OK, I'm not going to post a binary for this, cos it's pretty simple! This installer is actually a winrar sfx, and can be extracted using winrar to any directory you want. In this directory, you will notice a file called 'QuickTimeInstaller.exe' (32mb) - just erase this! To install now, just run the file 'iTunesSetup.exe (269kb). It will give no error, and install properly with all the correct drivers and associations. Tested it on my ipod, adding and removing music is all ok. After the fuss with 4.9, this was bizarre - it seems to have been packaged in a serious hurry - is there any competing software released soon? I have not tried the CD burning or CDDB, maybe someone else who uses these can post if all is ok? It still installs the 'Bonjour' service for AirWaves and music sharing. Tomorrow, I'll sit down and try to shrink and package it properly, removing this service and a few other things, put up a proper installer. Oh yeah, the default english installer seems to have all languages included - they are msi transforms, which the installer will apply to the default. You can remove the directories and inf files that are not relevant to your language if you want, remember to remove the reference from the 'setup.ini' also. The localised iTunes files are included in the msi & cab, so are a bit more complicated to remove. SP.

Well I noticed too - and agree with you, it's getting a bit old fast. However, being Scottish myself, I quite liked that last one!

From the docs : Thats what the service is for. I guess if you are not using air-tunes or Music Sharing, this can go. There is however no option not to install it. See if I can edit that out. SP