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OK ... the reason I asked earlier about Firefof ESR. I had read something earlier about the ESR version still being OK with Win XP into the future. I couldn't find what I had read till just now ... it says well into 2018. "It is unclear as of now for how long XP or Vista will be supported on the ESR channel. Firefox ESR 52 will be supported for quite a while. The new version will become available with the release of Firefox 52 on March 7, 2017, and will be supported until mid 2018. Firefox users on XP or Vista may use Firefox therefore at least up until that time unless Mozilla decides to remove support for those operating systems from ESR at one point before the release of Firefox ESR 59 (which seems unlikely)." https://www.ghacks.net/2016/09/27/firefox-53-no-support-for-windows-xp-or-vista/ Firefox 53: no support for Windows XP or Vista By Martin Brinkmann on September 27, 2016 in Firefox - Last Update:September 27, 2016 Mozilla plans to end mainline support for the Microsoft operating systems Windows XP and Windows Vista with the release of Firefox 53 in March 2017. This means that Firefox 52 will be the last feature update for those operating systems, as Firefox 53 cannot be installed anymore on those operating systems. Mozilla explicitly mentions installations that it plans to block. It is unclear whether it plans to block execution of portable versions of Firefox as well. The organization plans to migrate Firefox users on XP or Vista to Firefox ESR automatically however to extend support. Bug 1305453 on Bugzilla lists the plan to stop stand-alone Firefox 53 and up installers from installing Firefox on XP or Vista machines. We plan to eol XP/Vista by first moving those users out to ESR 52. Once 52 merges to aurora, we should land changes to the stand alone installer to prevent install by XP and Vista users. Initially there shouldn't be an issue with running but eventually we'll import a system dependency that will break browser startup. Another bug, bug 1303827, highlights Mozilla's plan to move XP users to Firefox's ESR branch when version 52 gets released. Firefox 51 is therefore the last version of the browser that is not ESR. We've decided to move Windows XP to the Firefox 52 ESR branch, so that Firefox 51 will be the last mainline version to support the platform. We still don't have an official EOL date for XP support, but moving the platform to the ESR branch means that we will *not* need to worry about new feature support for XP which is becoming increasingly difficult. It is unclear as of now for how long XP or Vista will be supported on the ESR channel. Firefox ESR 52 will be supported for quite a while. The new version will become available with the release of Firefox 52 on March 7, 2017, and will be supported until mid 2018. Firefox users on XP or Vista may use Firefox therefore at least up until that time unless Mozilla decides to remove support for those operating systems from ESR at one point before the release of Firefox ESR 59 (which seems unlikely). Microsoft ended support for Windows XP on April 2014, and plans to end support for Windows Vista on April 2017. Windows XP has not received security updates since April 2014, unless you have applied this little tweak to the machine. Google stopped supporting XP and Vista back in Chrome in April 2016 already. Mozilla Firefox is the last major web browser that supports XP and Vista (when you look at use figures). (via Sören Hentzschel)

OK ... that brings to mind another step with MWB 1.75. If that Window pops up saying your database is over 10 days old and needs to be updated ... don't update that way. I always go into the program and update myself with the Update tab ... then before you do the update, you can go and uncheck all those boxes. Should be no problem after that. I never update from that Window that pops up before the program actually starts. ...

Just to add ... I also still use Malwarebytes v1.75. I mentioned this in another post in Sep 2015. If you don't want v1.75 to upgrade to a new version, follow these steps: "You don't have to upgrade when getting database updates for the older version, you need to take out the checkmarks under the 'Settings' tab. Go to 'Settings' ... then go to 'Updater Settings' and uncheck: Download and install program update if available ... I also uncheck: Notify me when a program update is ready for installation I can get Database updates for the older 1.75 version and no 'Program Updates' are downloaded ... nothing is changed except for the newer Database updates." Then if you want to update another computer "offline" ... just go to ... C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Malwarebytes ... copy 'rules.ref' and in the Configuration folder copy 'database.conf' ... just replace these two files in the 'offline' computer and you have it currently updated. So if you are having problems with an 'offline' computer and you already have Malwarebytes v1.75 installed, just update it and run the program, if you can't get online with that computer. ...

heinoganda ... I use the link that dencorso has supplied earlier in this thread ... it is the full version with no adware. You might want to check that out. I used to download Shockwave from File Hippo but now I just use the site to check for a newer version. monroe

Technology gone amok ... this is maybe something to be concerned about, I don't know. This seems to be along the lines of various gadgets in modern homes keeping track of everything and then being hacked in some way. Younger people still in their teens and early 20's will face the onslaught of being tracked everywhere ... their homes from smart TVs, refrigerators and such ... hotel rooms with various electronics, can you really have any privacy in a hotel room these days? ... then their cars and car rentals. Moving to a nice warm laid back island with some limited modern technology or in laid back middle America, somewhere off the beaten path or a small coastal ocean village where tourists don't stop very often ... just the sound of waves and seagulls. Fitness tracker Christmas prezzies could bump up insurance premiums and leak personal data on the dark web Christmas gift guide favourites like Fitbit, Jawbone, Misfit, Samsung Gear and Apple trackers come with a safety and security warning, according to the experts by MARGI MURPHY 19th December 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2433599/fitness-tracker-christmas-prezzies-could-bump-up-insurance-premiums-and-leak-personal-data-on-the-dark-web/ GADGETS to help you lose weight are being used by private companies to track you and could have terrible consequences in the future, experts have warned. They claim companies’ unprecedented access to smartwatches and fitness band data could eventually bump up your insurance premium, affect your job and even lead to your identity being stolen. A report by the Centre for Digital Democracy warned that all wearable gadgets posed serious privacy and security risks. American manufacturers could be feeding information it collects from gadgets that monitor your heart rate, sleep pattern, calorie consumption and stress levels to private healthcare and insurance companies, it stated. This information can make these companies mega-bucks in targeted advertising. Even if a company has promised not to sell on your data — it’s at risk of a massive cyber hack as crooks eye it up to potentially sell on on the dark web for mind-boggling amounts. The report stated: “Biosensors will routinely be able to capture not only an individual’s heart rate, body temperature, and movement, but also brain activity, moods, and emotions. “These data can, in turn, be combined with personal information from other sources—including health-care providers and drug companies—raising such potential harms as discriminatory profiling, manipulative marketing, and security breaches.” There are fears that personal information could get into the hands of personal healthcare insurance companies and your employers’ too, who may use the information to discriminate against you. The report found that using the personal information "could enable profiling and discrimination—based on ethnicity, age, gender, medical condition, and other information—across a spectrum of fields, such as employment, education, insurance, finance, criminal justice, and social services, affecting not only individuals but also groups and society at large". ...

heinoganda ... thanks for the Flash Player update links. Since that Adobe Flash page was taken away it is not easy to just get the updates sometimes. Also, I know your links will be correct and work. The same goes for others that post various update links ... very handy to have them available here in the forum. monroe *** I might add there hasn't been a Shockwave update since around the end of September ... File Hippo has the last update as Shockwave Player 12.2.5.195 ... September 30, 2016. Seems like a long time ... I guess nothing needed fixed.

Well looking at that picture ... it would have fooled me. It does look like a frozen dead person, what with all the cold air around. I would like to know more why the car owner left something like that so visible in his car ... did he do that to keep someone from breaking into the car? ... let people think someone is actually sitting in the car. If that was the case, then it kinda backfired ... the police broke into the car. Who pays to replace the window ??? ... the car owner or the police? ... they were just doing their job, trying to save an elderly woman from freezing to death ... except she already looked "very dead" !!! ...

I will also add about why I just stopped using the older K-Meleon version for important logins. This just happened in the last two weeks ... in the thread/topic ... Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility Issues started by Dave-H, October 15 ... this post by Mathwiz on Dec 6th had a link to a browser test page. My older K-Meleon browser failed in many areas while Pale Moon and the latest Firefox version passed OK. Here is that link that Mathwiz posted. "You can go to https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html with any browser to see what security protocols, encryption ciphers, etc. your browser supports." So I now only use the older K-Meleon browser for nothing too terribly important ... like banking and such. I think it's OK to use for a forum login. It will be interesting to check out the next new version of K-Meleon ... when it's released. ...

I also use K-Meleon ... although it's an older version ... KM v1.8.2.4. I have changed and experimented with different user agents and never see (or very rarely) any "popup" windows about updating to a newer browser. I do however, run into pages that do not load correctly ... for those I will switch to Pale Moon (last XP version) or Firefox (latest ESR release). I also have hardly no knowledge about Firefox ... just started using it when Pale Moon announced they were dropping WinXP. I have several user agents that I use for K-Meleon ... I have a Firefox UA and I just started using DuckDuckBot ... it has been working everywhere for me so far. My third user agent is Googlebot but at least one site refused to let me enter ... told me to "get the h*ll out of here" ... more or less, so I am going to change that third user agent to a more "friendly user agent". Firefox --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0 DuckDuckBot --- DuckDuckBot/1.0; (+http://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot.html) This article is not very old ... October 2016. Web Crawlers and User-Agents – Top 10 Most Popular Brian Jackson | Updated: October 14, 2016 https://www.keycdn.com/blog/web-crawlers/ When it comes to the world wide web there are both bad bots and good bots. The bad bots you definitely want to avoid as these consume your CDN bandwidth, take up server resources, and steal your content. Good bots (also known as web crawlers) on the other hand, should be handled with care as they are a vital part of getting your content to index with search engines such as Google, Bing, and Yahoo. Read more below about some of the top 10 web crawlers and user-agents to ensure you are handling them correctly. 4. DuckDuckBot DuckDuckBot is the Web crawler for DuckDuckGo, a search engine that has become quite popular lately as it is known for privacy and not tracking you. It now handles over 12 million queries per day. DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (their crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (Wikipedia). They also have more traditional links in the search results, which they source from Yahoo!, Yandex and Bing. User-Agent DuckDuckBot Full User-Agent String DuckDuckBot/1.0; (+http://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot.html) As I said, I'm just experimenting with these Bot user agents and maybe others in the future with K-Meleon. Now there might be some very good news about a new release of K-Meleon over the next week or two ... and maybe not. Over at the KM forum with version 76 ... some are thinking MAYBE Dorian could have a surprise but only Dorian knows for sure. rodocop Date: December 06, 2016 07:33PM I believe Dorian is preparing some sort of Christmas gift for us ;-) .... it's just speculation or hope at this point so check in there over the next two weeks. So my question going three or four months into 2017 ... what browsers are going to be left for WinXP in that time frame? As for myself, I will still use my older version of K-Meleon, the last version of Pale Moon and the last version of Firefox ESR ... as they are needed for various sites. They will all keep working ... I would think for 2017 ... maybe 2018 will be a problem. I guess it will depend on how the newer version of K-Meleon works out. What about SeaMonkey for the future ... I don't know much about it. *** Just to add ... I use Proxomitron also when I'm online ... some people there believe that the browser should supply as little information as possible to web sites ... only what is needed to have the right experience. I have worked with various user agents in this regard. That's why I decided to add the DuckDuckBot user agent to K-Meleon. I no longer use the older K-Meleon version for serious 'logins' ... banking and such. I have Pale Moon and Firefox for that ... but for web surfing or strange web sites ... the K-Meleon browser with the DuckDuckBot ID maybe works for all that. Someone ... I think at the Proxomitron site, supplied a 'stripped down' version of a user agent for an example a few years back. It had just enough information to work on most web sites. Then for something really important, like banking and such, you have a better backup browser for all that. The older K-Meleon version that I am using ... I'm guessing still seems to work 90% ... maybe 95% of the time in 2016. With all the crazy stuff going on with the internet ... I like trying to disguise as much information as possible with Proxomitron and fake user agents. My knowledge is limited on all that so I really don't know for sure how much of that really works. I still do not have a fully working knowledge of all the Proxomitron settings ... usually have to get some help at the forum.

Someone thought there was a woman who had frozen to death in a car ... called the police and the rest is history. I never saw a mannequin that looked so real. She or it has teeth and was also wearing an oxygen mask. The car owner was upset the police broke his window. I guess it's a good way to keep someone from breaking into your car ... except for the police. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/17/police-rescue-frozen-woman-who-turns-out-to-be-mannequin.html Police rescue 'frozen' woman who turns out to be mannequin December 17, 2016 HUDSON, N.Y. – Police in New York broke a car window to rescue a woman who turned out to be an extremely realistic mannequin. The unusual incident happened Friday morning in the city of Hudson. The Times Union of Albany reports that a caller told police there was an elderly woman "frozen to death" in a parked car. Officers rushed to the scene and found what appeared to be a woman sitting in a car's front passenger seat wearing an oxygen mask. A sergeant busted a rear window, opened the door and discovered that the woman was a realistic mannequin. The car owner arrived and said he uses the dummy for his job selling medical training aids. The police chief says the owner was "incredulous" that police broke the window to rescue the mannequin. ...

I hope I can ask a "Firefox with WinXP" question also ... instead of starting another thread. Since the Pale Moon decision to drop WinXP I started using Firefox ... today I switched to the latest ESR portable version ... Firefox v45.6.0. I am currently getting all the personal settings fixed and a few add ons. What I am not completely clear on about the ESR version is this. The regular Firefox version will be dropping WinXP shortly or at version 52.x.x but the ESR version will continue to work and be updated for WinXP? Am I correct on this ... I just have WinXP SP3 with no POS updates? Also, I read about one complaint with Firefox is that it seems to have "larger memory usage and memory leaks" compared to other browsers. I came across this little program for Firefox that is supposed to fix that or at least improve it. Just wondering if anyone is using this program? Firemin - <http://www.rizonesoft.com/downloads/firemin/> ... that's all I have at the moment for Firefox questions ... will be back unless HoppaLong is not happy I sasshayed into his thread. monroe

Wisdom is now 68 yrs old and still looks like a young bird. There seems to be a difference in the number of chicks she has had. She really looks good for 68 yrs. https://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/World-s-oldest-known-wild-bird-hatches-chick-on-13609072.php World's oldest known wild bird hatches chick on Midway Atoll Tuesday, February 12, 2019 HONOLULU (AP) — The oldest known wild bird in the world has become a mother again at the Midway Atoll National Wildlife Refuge, U.S. wildlife officials said. The Laysan albatross named Wisdom hatched a chick earlier this month at the remote atoll northwest of Hawaii, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reported Monday. Wisdom is at least 68 years old and has raised at least 31 chicks, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service officials said. Wisdom was first banded as an adult in 1956. Wisdom and her mate, Akeakamai, have been returning to the atoll to lay and hatch eggs since 2006. Laysan albatrosses mate for life and lay one egg per year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is from two years ago when Wisdom was 66 yrs old .... There's a really nice picture in the article. Wisdom really looks great for her age, expecting her 41st chick. It's amazing that she still has the energy to fly to the breeding area. I took these paragraphs from the article below. "Having healthy feathers is important because albatrosses spend almost 90 percent of their time flying, often covering thousands of miles as they search for food in the north Pacific Ocean, the researchers said." "Wisdom's new chick is unexpected; many albatrosses don't breed for two consecutive years, and Wisdom had a chick last year. Rather, most lay an egg one year and then take a break the next, instead investing their time and energy into molting their feathers, said researchers at the Midway Atoll National Wildlife Refuge and Battle of Midway National Memorial, located about 1,400 miles northwest of Hawaii." "Biologist Chandler Robbins first banded Wisdom in 1956. Robbins, who is now 98, has kept abreast of Wisdom's travels over the years — an estimated 3 million miles (5 million km) in her lifetime — and heralded in the nine chicks she's laid since 2006, including Kūkini, who hatched in February 2016." World's oldest wild breeding bird is expecting her 41st chick By Laura Geggel - December 15, 2016 http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/12/15/worlds-oldest-wild-breeding-bird-is-expecting-her-41st-chick.html Forget about the stork — it's the albatross that should be in charge of baby delivery. That's because the world's oldest wild breeding bird mother, a 66-year-old albatross named Wisdom, is incubating another egg, likely her 41st one, experts say. Wisdom's new chick is unexpected; many albatrosses don't breed for two consecutive years, and Wisdom had a chick last year. Rather, most lay an egg one year and then take a break the next, instead investing their time and energy into molting their feathers, said researchers at the Midway Atoll National Wildlife Refuge and Battle of Midway National Memorial, located about 1,400 miles northwest of Hawaii. Having healthy feathers is important because albatrosses spend almost 90 percent of their time flying, often covering thousands of miles as they search for food in the north Pacific Ocean, the researchers said. [Adorable Photos of Baby Shorebirds] For whatever reason, Wisdom chose to lay an egg this year. The last time researchers saw the famous mom, she was sitting on her egg, waiting for the return of her mate, Akeakamai (a Hawaiian word that means "a love of wisdom, scholar"). Albatrosses often tag-team, with one parent incubating the egg while the other goes out to sea to hunt for food. Every year, the duo returns to the wildlife refuge at Midway Atoll, an albatross hotspot . Kristina McOmber, the refuge's biology program volunteer crew leader, discovered the expecting bird on Dec. 3. McOmber spotted Wisdom thanks to the bird's bright-red leg band placed there by scientists. Akeakamai was seen by the nest on Nov. 23, refuge volunteers said. "I find it impressive that not only has Wisdom returned for over six decades as the oldest living, breeding bird in the wild, but also that biologists here on Midway have been keeping records that have allowed us to keep track of her over the years," Charlie Pelizza, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's acting project leader for Midway Atoll Refuge and Memorial, said in a statement . "The staff was abuzz with the news that Wisdom was back and incubating. It's amazing what a bit of good news can do to brighten the day." Biologist Chandler Robbins first banded Wisdom in 1956. Robbins, who is now 98, has kept abreast of Wisdom's travels over the years — an estimated 3 million miles (5 million km) in her lifetime — and heralded in the nine chicks she's laid since 2006, including Kūkini, who hatched in February 2016. Wisdom may be a celebrity, but she's not a prima donna. Instead, she shares the National Wildlife Refuge with about 70 percent of the world's Laysan albatross (Phoebastria immutabilis) population, and almost 40 percent of the world's black-footed albatrosses (Phoebastria nigripes). The short-tailed albatross (Phoebastria albatrus), which the International Union for Conservation of Nature classifies as a vulnerable species, also occasionally nests on the Sand and Eastern islands within the refuge. The birds typically arrive at the refuge in late October, and they number in the hundreds of thousands by the end of November, the biologists said.

Tarun ... the first I have heard about Malwarebytes 3.0 ... I see it just came out a few days ago. It will be a yearly subscription for people or companies that would need this product. I still will use the older Malwarebytes, if they will still be providing updates. Will have to read some reviews as people try it. "With the combination of our Anti-Malware ($24.95), Anti-Exploit ($24.95) and Anti-Ransomware (free, beta) technologies, we will be selling Malwarebytes 3.0 at $39.99 per computer per year, 20% less than our previous products combined and 33% less than an average traditional antivirus. But don’t worry, if you are an existing customer with an active subscription or a lifetime license to Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, you will keep your existing price and get a free upgrade to Malwarebytes 3.0. If you have both an Anti-Malware and an Anti-Exploit subscription, we will upgrade you to a single subscription to Malwarebytes 3.0, reduce your subscription price and add more licenses to your subscription. More on that below! As always, we will be keeping malware remediation absolutely free." Announcing Malwarebytes 3.0, a next-generation antivirus replacement https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2016/12/announcing-malwarebytes-3-0-a-next-generation-antivirus-replacement/ ...

Mcinwwl ... OK, I guess I did not fully understand how ransomware works. I thought a person could not get into their computer ... but I guess it makes sense that the person would have to know the amount to pay and how to send the money. In that first link about the hospital ... there is this paragraph about another hospital. "Earlier this month, Methodist Hospital in Henderson, Kentucky was struck by Locky as well, an attack that prevented healthcare providers from accessing patient files. The facility declared a “state of emergency” on a Friday but by Monday was reporting that its systems were “up and running.” Methodist officials, however, said they did not pay the ransomware; administrators in that case had simply restored the hospital’s data from backups." As you say den ... stay sharp and be prepared with good data backups. ...

I've been wondering about this in relation to a computer having been attacked and shutdown with a ransomware attack. I have heard about two hospitals and a police department having to pay to get their systems working again. Let's just take a home personal computer that has been attacked and no longer able to fully start up. If that person has a DVD backup ... Ghost comes to mind or it could be any of the other programs that will store a backup to a disc or USB flashdrive. Would that type of backup get the computer started again? I can't find an exact answer to that question ... maybe there are various versions of ransomware that could be defeated that way ... maybe not. ...

Wonder how long they were all posing as mannequins? ... no coughing, no sneezing, no restroom trips, not getting hungry ... and many other 'no this or that' thoughts ! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/home-alone-thieves-conned-staff-9408744 'Home Alone' Thieves Conned Staff by Posing as Mannequins Until Store Shut Before Stealing £10k of Designer Clothes They posed alongside real dummies until the doors were locked - then were seen on CCTV perusing the aisles at their leisure, stealing whatever they wanted ByJessica Haworth - Jim Hardy 7 Dec 2016 A gang of crafty thieves pretended to be mannequins when a department store was locking up for the night - before they made away with £10,000 worth of designer clothes. They posed as dummies at a Beales store in Worthing, Sussex, alongside the real models on display. As soon as staff had shut up shop , they browsed the stock at their leisure picking out what they wanted. Sussex Police were baffled as to how the gang - who are still on the run - got in without setting off alarms at the upmarket store. This comes as one of the workers likened the raid to a heist seen in film Home Alone 2: Lost in New York. They also called the incident a “very well-orchestrated crime” as police appeal for any information. The alarm only sounded when they left the building via a fire escape with thousands of pounds worth of gear. An assistant said the heist was a copy of the film, in which bad guys Harry and Marv plot to rob a toy store by hiding amongst the mannequins as it is locked up at night. Beales is fitted with a sophisticated alarm system of sensors that should detect movement, and would have 'spotted' the burglars had they tried to break in. The assistant, who asked not to be named, said: “It was only triggered when they left the store - it was a very well-orchestrated crime. "They must have secreted themselves and pretended to be mannequins. "They probably dressed in clothes identical to those worn by the mannequins and stood there, not moving a muscle till the shop shut and everyone went home. "They took oilskin jackets, high-end designer clothes and the like. "It showed incredible nerve - the store is equipped from top to bottom with sensor alarms and cameras. "They must have stood there with the mannequins not daring to move a muscle - imagine if they wanted to sneeze or had an itch they couldn't scratch!" A spokeswoman for Sussex Police said: "We are investigating after the break-in was reported at Beales store in South Street. "Clothing was stolen and the burglars left the store through the fire escape which set off the alarm. It is not clear how they got in. "Officers are continuing to investigate. Anyone who saw anything or has any information is asked to contact police on 101 or on Crimestoppers anonymously." A Beales spokesman said: "We do not wish to comment at this time." In Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, Harry Lime and Marv Merchants, played by Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern, hide out in Duncans Toy Store on Christmas Eve. But the hero Kevin McCallister, played by Macaulay Culkin, turns up and takes a picture before throwing a brick through the window to ruin their plot. ...

I wasn't sure where to place this topic ... I was going to just mention that anyone familiar with Proxomitron might be interested in knowing that it seems to work OK in Window 8 and Windows 10. Proxomitron goes back many years to the time Windows XP was arriving on the scene. I will post this link to a discussion about Proxomitron still working in 2016. Maybe you never heard of this program ... the developer, Scott R Lemmon passed away many years ago at a very young age but his program lives on. So there might be some people here that could want to check it out. If you have questions ... the two administrators JJoe and ProxRocks will help with answers and solutions. proxo and newer windows http://prxbx.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=2272 A few posts from that topic: Sep. 14, 2016 JJoe Administrator ******* RE: proxo and newer windows I use it on windows 10 64bit, home and pro. Proxo lives in C:\Users\Public\Public Programs. ------------------------------------------------------- Sep. 21, 2016 ProxRocks Administrator RE: proxo and newer windows i just recently upgraded to Win10 and Proxo works excellently... lives in C:\My No-Install Programs\Proxomitron... don't think Win10 really cares "where" you put it... i think Microsoft "finally" got it right! been running WinXP for years because Vista, 7, and 8 were TERRIBLE... i do highly suggest NOT installing all of the d@mn "metro apps"... they can be removed/uninstalled AFTER a Win10 installation, but it's tricky... works best to remove them DURING a Win10 installation - https://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-10-lite/files/ i also recommend Winaero Tweaker - http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.1836 DWS Lite seems to work really well also - https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Window...g/releases Windows Privacy Tweaker is also a must-have - https://www.phrozensoft.com/2015/09/wind...-tweaker-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sep. 23, 2016 Mele20 Member RE: proxo and newer windows I'm shocked. How could you possibly like Windows 10? Microsoft owns your computer if you have Windows 10. Plus, you realize it is impossible to get rid of all the Microsoft tracking? The ONLY version of Windows 10 that one who has any self respect in regards to privacy can even think of using is Long Term Enterprise version. Even the new Enterprise E3 and E5 versions that are now available to all users (not just corporations) are a sham as when you read the extremely lengthy tomes at Microsoft regarding on Enterprise E3 and E5 how to rid your computer of all the spying and tracking it becomes obvious that even with Enterprise version (has a monthly fee on it $7 currently) you are still totally OWNED by Microsoft. You, of all people, I would have thought would hate this and JJoe too. I am well aware of all that you linked to. All that helps but it DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO RIDDING YOU OF ALL THE TRACKING BY MICROSOFT. Besides, with the exception of 10 Long Term Enterprise that none of us can get, Microsoft forces updates on you and you cannot decline..yeah, on Pro version you can delay, but there is a HUGE difference between delay and full control where you can pick and choose what IF ANY updates/patches you wish to install (like you could do on ALL PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF WINDOWS). Even Woody says move to Linux. Plus, Microsoft just defanged Group Policy in 10 Pro....what will they do next to gain absolute, full control of your computer? I loved XP Pro and came to Windows 8 from it and it was HARD to gain full control over Windows 8 (and I still cannot uninstall all the crap metro apps even though Microsoft says I have after countless number of hours of extreme tediousness to do so...but Microsoft lies and so do authors that say you can...Microsoft just hides them and really buries them and then tells you they have been uninstalled...nope. The best you can do is break them so they cannot phone home but hidden deeply they still try so you have constant errors in Event Viewer. You want that on Win 10? Edge? Sergei says you can uninstall it. Nope. It will just be reinstalled in the Windows 10 update that you have NO control over except possible delay if using Windows 10 Pro. But even that tiny bit of control is going away unless you subscribe to monthly Enterprise E3 or 5 versions and even those will shock you when you read in Microsoft's own words about all the tracking and spying and how YOU can try to control it but it will be a FULL TIME JOB just to keep up with it all and all the new tracking coming from Microsoft in the future. Everyone I know in IT and other experienced users all feel we must move to Linux. BTW, Windows 8.0 Pro is a million times better than Windows 10 because you can control it and have privacy on it...it is not easy but it can be done. It canNOT be done on Windows 10 unless you are a very lucky Long Term (10 year) Enterprise user. I am getting old and I don't want to have to learn Linux but I see no other choice especially since I come from a generation where I was raised to greatly value my privacy. I don't want to lose Proxo but it doesn't work right now 50% of the time so with no one writing current public configs for it, I think very sadly that it may be time to let it rest in peace. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sep. 23, 2016 JJoe Administrator RE: proxo and newer windows Careful with that brush. "I use it" is not praise. Otherwise, the situation is as always, work around and lobby. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sep. 24, 2016 ProxRocks Administrator RE: proxo and newer windows Mele20... Dig deeper! You *CAN* disable all of the tracking and you *CAN* disable the auto-updates... Yes, it means that i'll run 6 *MONTHS* between "updates" because i will ***NOT*** be updating "every month" like PARANOID folks think they 'have to do' in order to "be safe"... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The main filter set in use today seems to be the Sidki filter set. The one I use and it is active with questions. Proxomitron Config Sets http://prxbx.com/forums/ Proxomitron Config Sets / Sidki http://prxbx.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=44 ... it can seem to be confusing at first but I mosly figured it out many years ago ... also with help from the administrators along he way.

Just started reading about this Firefox ESR version today. After the news about Pale Moon dropping WinXP had come out ... I decided to find the latest Firefox portable version ... I did this last week. I was searching for a portable ESR version just now and came across this download page with several language downloads. It the portable apps versions ... still looking for a stand alone ESR portable version to work with. I posted this page for anyone interested in working with the ESR version now. Index of /portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox ESR, Portable Edition 45.5.0 ... (16 Nov 2016) http://mirror.ufs.ac.za/portableapps/Mozilla Firefox, Portable Ed./Mozilla Firefox ESR, Portable Edition 45.5.0/ ...

Always hope for old electronics - satellite launched in 1965 ... stopped transmitting in 1967 ... back online. When I first started reading the article, I wondered how a 50 yr old satellite could still be in orbit. The article says that it's stuck in it's orbit, which I guess must be very high above the Earth with no drag to slowly bring it down. If I remember, isn't that at least or around 24,000 miles above the Earth? The article doesn't mention any of that. http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/22/satellite-abandoned-in-1967-mysteriously-comes-back-online/ Satellite Abandoned In 1967 Mysteriously Comes Back Online Andrew Follett - Energy and Science Reporter 11/22/2016 An American satellite abandoned in 1967 suddenly came back online and began transmitting again for the first time in 50 years. Amateur astronomers first suspected that they’d found the satellite in 2013, but needed years to confirm that it was still occasionally transmitting. The satellite, dubbed LES1, was built by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and launched into space in 1965. A mistake in the satellite’s circuitry caused it to never leave its circular orbit, and it eventually stop transmitting in 1967. The satellite’s signal now fluctuates widely in strength, meaning that it’s likely only transmitting when its solar panels are in direct sunlight. Scientists expect that the satellite’s onboard batteries have disintegrated. This is not the first a NASA solar probe was lost and found again. In 1998, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory lost contact with NASA but was eventually reacquired. NASA successfully rediscovered its Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatories (STEREO-B) probe after 22 months of searching in August, establishing contact with the $550 million probe for several hours. The STEREO-B probe was launched in 2006 to observe solar and space weather phenomena from deep space. The probe was lost in October 2014, but was only supposed to remain operational for two years. The spacecraft was set to pass directly behind the sun right before it was lost. NASA is unsure STEREO-B is still functioning well enough to be scientifically useful, but its sister spacecraft STEREO-A is functioning normally. The space agency will likely need to study STEREO-B with the Hubble Space Telescope to get it back in working order, which can’t happen until at least 2019 due to research schedules and orbital issues. ...

Nasa has a new asteroid tracking system called Scout ... it's finding around five asteroids every night ... so the article says. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/11/01/scout-nasas-new-asteroid-tracking-system-just-passed-important-test.html Scout, NASA's new asteroid-tracking system, just passed an important test By Dyllan Furness Published November 01, 2016 An asteroid passed by Earth Sunday night but, thanks to a new asteroid-spotting system, it didn't catch astronomers off guard. The space rock was discovered a few days ago by NASA's new computer program, Scout, which sifted through telescope data to identify the Near Earth Object and run a quick calculation to determine that it would pass at a safe distance of 310,000 miles from the planet. "The NASA surveys are finding something like at least five asteroids every night," Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) astronomer Paul Chodas told NPR. "When a telescope first finds a moving object, all you know is it's just a dot, moving on the sky," he added. "You have no information about how far away it is. "The more telescopes you get pointed at an object, the more data you get, and the more you're sure you are how big it is and which way it's headed. But sometimes you don't have a lot of time to make those observations." Scout is still in its testing phase but, by analyzing data from the Panoramic Survey Telescope & Rapid Response System in Hawaii, it was able to identify the asteroid on the night of October 25-26, according to NPR. Scout's analysis determined that the asteroid would pass safely by Earth. Three more telescopes confirmed the finding. Although Scout is primarily focused on locating small objects -- last night's asteroid was somewhere between 16 feet and 82 feet in diameter -- it's older relative, Sentry, is tasked with identifying asteroids that pose more serious threats to Earth, like the potential to destroy entire cities. Chodas told NPR Sentry has probably identified 25-30 percent of asteroids over 460 feet wide, with a goal of identifying 90 percent. They're a while off from that goal, but that hunt may be a bit easier when the Large Synoptic Survey Telescope in Chile comes online in the early 2020s. ...

Well, I don't really have a theory ... I just posted the story in case some people missed it from other sites. The sad thing is that most of us who might find this news very interesting are just hearing or reading about it now ... 43 years have passed and so also have many people who might have had some decent ideas or theories about all of this. I wonder how many scientists and others from around the world really knew about this ... and the story just comes out in 2016. Even reading about this in the 1990's would have been great news ... I'm usually into all this odd type news and I don't recall ever any mention of this metal object. There is one more interesting sentence from the article: "Lab tests concluded it is an old UFO fragment given that the substances it comprises cannot be combined with technology available on Earth." ... forget the UFO part, they are saying that those other metals ... "the object is made of 12 metals, 90% aluminium" cannot be done by humans on Earth. So the object may not be 250,000 years old ... a lab in Lausanne, Switzerland says it is or could be that old. However, since humans on the earth knew nothing about the metal until after 1800 ... it was suspected to exist in 1787 but I guess no one actually saw aluminum until 1825. From this article: The Element Aluminum http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele013.html "Although aluminum is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust, it is never found free in nature. All of the earth's aluminum has combined with other elements to form compounds. Two of the most common compounds are alum, such as potassium aluminum sulfate (KAl(SO4)2·12H2O), and aluminum oxide (Al2O3). About 8.2% of the earth's crust is composed of aluminum. Scientists suspected than an unknown metal existed in alum as early as 1787, but they did not have a way to extract it until 1825. Hans Christian Oersted, a Danish chemist, was the first to produce tiny amounts of aluminum. Two years later, Friedrich Wöhler, a German chemist, developed a different way to obtain aluminum. By 1845, he was able to produce samples large enough to determine some of aluminum's basic properties. Wöhler's method was improved in 1854 by Henri Étienne Sainte-Claire Deville, a French chemist. Deville's process allowed for the commercial production of aluminum. As a result, the price of aluminum dropped from around $1200 per kilogram in 1852 to around $40 per kilogram in 1859. Unfortunately, aluminum remained too expensive to be widely used." ... although I like science fiction films from the 1950's and when I was younger ... I was all into the UFO craze, along with Bigfoot, the Bermuda Triangle, the Loch Ness monster, any and everything ... but here it is 40 or 50 years later and none of these mysteries have really been solved or 'put to rest'. We have better cameras and scientific equipment today but these mysteries (and others) still exist. So if the aluminum metal object is even only 50,000 to 100,000 years old ... who really did make it, where did it come from ... could some really smart early cave inhabitants been making and working with this metal and then the whole process was forgotten until the 1800's? Open for discussion ... if that metal object was there with those bone fossils all that time ... that's a mystery, it really does look like it was made by somebody. ...

... or somewhere in between 400 to 250,000 years old. The article mentions that ... "Metallic aluminium was not really produced by mankind until around 200 years ago". It does look like an axe but it's probably too soft to be of much use unless it is hardened from the other metals ... from the article: "According to tests, the object is made of 12 metals, 90% aluminium, and it was dated by Romanian officials as being 250,000 years old. The initial results were later confirmed by a lab in Lausanne, Switzerland." Experts believe mysterious aluminium object dating back 250,000 years 'could be part of ancient UFO' 20 Oct 2016 ... By Kara O'Neill http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/experts-believe-mysterious-aluminium-object-9086060 Metallic aluminium was not produced by mankind until around 200 years ago - but this appears manufactured making the object a baffling find. A piece of aluminium that looks as if it was handmade is being hailed as 250,000-year-old proof that aliens once visited Earth. Metallic aluminium was not really produced by mankind until around 200 years ago, so the discovery of the large chunk that could be up to 250,000 years old is being held as a sensational find. The details of the discovery were never made public at the time because it was pulled out of the earth in communist Romania in 1973. Builders working on the shores of the Mures River not far from the central Romanian town of Aiud found three objects 10 metres (33 feet) under the ground. They appeared to be unusual and very old, and archaeologists were bought in who immediately identified two of them as being fossils. The third looked to be a piece of man-made metal, although very light, and it was suspected that it might be the end of an axe. All three were sent together with the others for further analysis to Cluj, the main city of the Romanian region of Transylvania. It was quickly determined that the two large bones belonged to a large extinct mammal that died 10,000-80,000 years ago, but experts were stunned to find out that the third object was a piece of very lightweight metal, and appeared to have been manufactured. According to tests, the object is made of 12 metals, 90% aluminium, and it was dated by Romanian officials as being 250,000 years old. The initial results were later confirmed by a lab in Lausanne, Switzerland. Other experts who conducted later tests said the dates were far alter, ranging between 400 and 80,000 years old, but even at 400 years old it would still be 200 years earlier than when aluminium was first produced. The object is 20 centimetres (7.8 inches) long, 12.5 centimetres (4.9 inches) wide and 7 centimetres (2.8 inches) thick. What puzzled experts is that the piece of metal has concavities that make it look as if it was manufactured as part of a more complex mechanical system. Now a heated debate is going on that the object is actually part of a UFO and proof of visitation by an alien civilisation in the past. Gheorghe Cohal, the Deputy Director of the Romanian Ufologists Association, told local media: "Lab tests concluded it is an old UFO fragment given that the substances it comprises cannot be combined with technology available on Earth." Local historian Mihai Wittenberger has tried to claim that the object is actually a metal piece from a World War II German aircraft. However, this does not explain the age of the artefact. The metal object has now gone on display in the History Museum of Cluj-Napoca with its full history causing heated speculation after it was noted that museum officials had added a sign saying: "origin still unknown". ...

OK ... from now on I will just install the new Shockwave Player version over the older version ... sure will be a lot easier than all the steps I have been doing. Yes, I only use that link since you posted about it several months back ... but some newer readers may not know about it. ...

Seems to be a new Shockwave Player update released from the last one ... March 2016. Shockwave Player 12.2.5.195 September 30, 2016 ... I have a question about updating with a newer version of Shockwave Player. How do some of you install a newer version? For years I have always used the Shockwave Player Uninstaller to remove the current version on my computer and everything connected with that version that may be in various areas on the computer ... then I install the new version. Do some of you just install a new version over the older version without cleaning or removing the older version? TIA ...

Just came across this article about Revo Uninstaller Free 2.0.1 which is dated September 19, 2016. I didn't know the earlier version Revo Uninstaller 2.0 had been released ... apparently there is an ad in version 2.0 that pops up every third time Revo Uninstaller is opened ... and in the new 2.0.1 version that was removed. http://www.ghacks.net/2016/09/19/revo-uninstaller-free-2-0-1-removes-ad-panel/ Revo Uninstaller Free 2.0.1 removes ad panel By Martin Brinkmann on September 19, 2016 in Software Revo Uninstaller Free 2.0.1 is an update for the free program remover that gets rid of the advertisement panel that VSRevo Group introduced in version 2.0 of the application. Revo Uninstaller 2.0 was the first update of the popular software uninstaller in three years. It introduced full support for 64-bit applications, a much requested feature as lack of it limited the program's use on PCs running 64-bit versions of the Windows operating system. The new version improved the tools integrated in the application, changed the user interface, and added new features such as a details pane to it. Another change introduced in Revo Uninstaller 2.0 was an ad panel that popped up on every third launch of the program. It advertised Revo Uninstaller Pro, the commercial version of the program. While you could close the panel whenever it popped up, it would appear again on the third launch of the program. ** Further down the page is this: Revo Uninstaller 2.0.1 does away with the ad panel. That's without doubt a good thing as it improves the user experience quite a bit. While you won't get the ad for Revo Uninstaller Pro pop up in the interface anymore, you may notice that the company has added new promotions to the interface that advertise the pro version. If you look at the interface of version 2.0.1 of the program, you will notice two locations that advertise the Pro version. First through an "upgrade to Pro" button in the main icon toolbar at the top, and then as a text link in the status bar that reads "upgrade to Revo Uninstaller Pro". Both options are less intrusive than the ad panel that the company used in version 2.0 of the application. Additionally, both can be ignored easily. You may hide the main toolbar if you don't require it at all. Simply right-click on the toolbar and select "main toolbar" to hide it in the interface. You can bring it back at a later point in time by right-clicking on the status bar and selecting main toolbar again. The only other changes in Revo Uninstaller Free 2.0.1 are minor in comparison. According to the changelog, language files were updated and minor bugs fixed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't see any link on the page to download this new version ... there is a link to Revo in the Summary page at the bottom ... then if you click on "Downloads" at the top there is a portable version available. http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html Other Downloads Revo Uninstaller Freeware Portable I have not worked with new portable version yet ... I downloaded and unzipped it ... it is listed as the new version 2.0.1 ... I will try this newer version but for me ... I don't "install and uninstall" many programs these days. Pretty much have everything set up the way I want it and backed up to a DVD. So it will be up to someone else to really test this newer portable version and post any comments. At first glance, it seems to be OK. ...