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Hi, thanks for report. I can confirm that Win98SE works well on P31+ICH7 (GA-P31-DS3L). I used modified INF files by Peter and all HW components was detected. I don't have any /!\ in device manager. On prevoius MB I had one ! for LPC interface. But I have now other 2 problems: 1) I extend RAM 1GB -> 2GB even if I tweak Vcache size in system.ini I cannot boot windows in normal mode and safe mode. Normal mode hangs with blinking cursor on text scree. Safe mode will not boot due to not enough memory 2) Onboard 1Gbit ethernet Realtek 8111B. There's Win98SE driver on Realtek site but after I installed it, windows cannot boot. It hangs with message about corruption of memory protection in textmode. I can boot in safe mode an disable network controller in CPL. Then it boots in normal mode again. Interesting is that when I enable the network controller in CPL windows enables it without restart and I can use network normally unitl next reboot. Maybe I could try older driver.

Yes, I already had asked him.

I think foppy size is derived from its physical geometry, so you should write 80*18*2*512 = 1474560 instead meaningless 1.44*1024*1000 even if the result is same. Anyway I don't bother about MB and MiB, it's not serious difference compared e.g. to nowdays HDD sizes. From your experience you will know where is used MiBs and MBs. But sometimes I wonder too, e.g. I would expect that CF card will use MiBs because it contains flash chips which are surely 2^N sized but they probably save this capacity for badblock relocation and other hidden storage for CF controller.

Hm, interesting. Maybe shutdown problem is only releated to PCI-E graphics? I use this drivers without problems except the shutdown. When I switch to BearWindows Win9X universal VESA driver beta it shutdown normally so it seem the problem is in nvidia drivers.

When I look into control panel/SCSI adapters I can see driver is not running but runs standard ATAPI.SYS. But when i go to control panel/devices and seek for uniata it is set to run on startup and when I tried to startup manually it says driver allready running, so what is true? Probably is not running, fallback to atapi.sys. I tried contact author but no reply.

Hi, does anybody tried to install Win98 on mobos with new intel chipset P31/P35? The major advantage is 1333MHz FSB support for new 45nm Core 2 Duo CPUs. E.g. Gigabyte sells some nice and cheap mobos: http://www.czechcomputer.cz/product.jsp?artno=48787 This mobos combine P31 with well proven ICH7® which is not problem in Win98. I didn't studied differences of P31 and i945 but maybe very similar and INF would be possible to modify easily - add new PCI VID & DID. P35 is used in combination with ICH9® which hasn PATA port. This is done via Jmicron controller and I don't know if there are drivers for it.

Hi, I have installed NT 4.0 on my PC for long years and works fine but I run into trouble with last update of MB and HDD. Now I have mobo with ICH7 (using IDE mode) and new 500GB SATA HDD. I moved partitions from old HDD and all my OSes can boot except NT 4.0. For Win98SE I had to update esdi.pdr to have LBA48 support and works fine too. NT 4.0 just displays a BSOD saying unacessible boot device. But I found if I move them (and edit boot.ini of course) on slave HDD which is less 128GB they can boot. So I tried to install UniATA driver. It was installed successfully but when moved back to 500GB disk it still didn't boot I also tried to replace original NT .sys driver by uniata.sys but it hangs during boot. Anybody was successfull with >128G HDD?

I must give a warning for everybody: according to this intel's document it's clear that since ICH6 ISA DMA is not supported by chipset and then any ISA souncard will not play sound in DOS games, etc. under DOS or Windows 9x. Unfortunately I find this too late...

Yes but this is much aditional work messing with drivers. Pure DOS is da best for this kind of playing. IO port access is quite easy to get but much harder is access to MSR registers or physical memory access under NT-based OS. I wrote my own kernel mode driver for MSR access in mingw32 so I know what I'm talking about. If you are not familiar with windows kernel programming (like me) it's not a piece of cake. And even if it now works through a driver the IOCTL calls adds heavy overhead to this simple operations making it much slower than in DOS/Win9x.

I think there are extract.exe and makecab.exe (not sure of 2nd name) freely available allows you to extract and rebuild CAB files. But I did only extraction not rebuilding new cab.

Oh sure, I don't support this kind of hazards and agree that integrating patch into installation is a good idea. Just wanted to say that it should't be catastrophic if you know what you are doing. About recycled - I have disabled it and when use my favorite file manager to delete fiels even recycle.bin directories are not created. And I didn't try to delete anything from those partitions anyway. BTW does anybody know why Win98 don't like (hang at boot) SATA enhanced mode (enabled in BIOS to use more than 4 IDE drives [2 on PATA, 2 on SATA]). It works fine in DOS and safemode because then BIOS int 13h extension is used and take care about it.

>Forgetting to apply this patch before exceeding the 137GB of your hard disk would be a catastrophe. Not so catastrophe. I booted my win98 before applying this patch (1st I needed to download it from somewhere and it didn't caused any damage to data on other two big FAT32 partitions. One partition was even accessible and fully readable because I didn't filled it up to 128G limit. Other partition was reported as unknown. Of course I didn't try to write anything there before patching.

>Sorry I overlookd this. But I want to try some experiment with it Hm, so I tried to modify INF file from IAA (supports up to ICH4) to add ICH7 support, then it was installed successfully, copied intelata driver to system directory but after reboot it didn't worked. In device manager I can see 82801DG controller with primary and secondary channel with /!\ warning. It seems that limitation is in intelata.mpd driver itself so I give up. Anyway modified esdi_506.pdr seems to work fine.

Did it install using 82.69 without you having to change the inf file? Any issues with this driver and the 7600? I used this version of 82.69 drivers from ZakMcKracken84: http://windows98.ic.cz/vga/fw9x8269.rar and don't need to modify inf file.

Hehe, I sometimes had put my fingers into fire (or s***?) when bought new hardware with unknown compatability So I learned to be patient and take a wisdoms from others failures. I'd like to bought GF8600 but I find anybody who has tested 8xxx card. I only knew about 7300 so I hoped 7600 would be very similar and luckily it works. So go ahead, thrash your money for 8800 and tell us

No, intel no longer support IAA 9x version. So latest usable chipset with IAA is i860 (i think ICH4 or 5).

It's not necessary, it's working now! It was caused by my confusion of driver versions. My original esdi_506.pdr was 4.10.2225 and that I used was patched 4.10.2226 and this caused the BSOD. Now I replaced it by correct patched version and everything seems to works OK. I didn't filled FAT32 partitions yet but if LBA48 was not active I cannot see the second partition and now I can. Here's my volumes BTW I didn't meant Kouwell adapter as a PCI card but as a small PCB which is attached to PATA drive and have SATA connector on other side (bought in CzechComputer per 250,-Kc). I used it for HDD mobile rack and to have ability to easy handle PATA drives. >IAA doesnt work od 856PE chipset, look Sorry I overlookd this. But I want to try some experiment with it BTW what about DOS Scandisk from WinME? Is it safe to run it in >128G partitions? Somebody say yes others no... I tried it and test succeed but there was not any bugs to fix so cannot say if it can corrupt something. And I don't fill partition over 128G. Should I rather rename/remove scandisk to prevent running it during boot? I have Norton utilities to do the job anyway...

I don't know exact driver version because I was installing new mobo during weekend and no network working yet and had some ?? ver. So I downloaded latest version from here and try it when back at home. I also readed from other users that enhanced mode doesn't work. BTW I use 2nd PATA HDD with Kouwell IDE/SATA adapter and is seems to be perfectly transparent to the system. You say you have 865 chipset, then you wouldn't need this patch because of intel application accelerator should provide own LBA48 bit enabled driver for you if you installed it. Maybe it would be possible to patch intel's driver to force it work on ICH7 too.

Hi, I just bought big SATA HDD WD 500GB. I set "IDE/combined" mode in SETUP (chipset: i945G+ICH7R) to operate 2 SATA ports like standard IDE channel (PATA have attached CDW+DVDW, SATA - HDD). I made here 1 FAT16 and 2 FAT32 (192GB) partitions. It's well accessible from DOS 7.1 but I can access only 1st FAT32 from Win98se. So I installed LBA48 patch (~100kB self-installation exe which should replace ESDI_506.PDR) The problem is a BSOD I got on next boot (translated from CZ): "Bad call of dynamic connection of VxD ESDI_506.PDR(03) + 000017EB to device 0026 service A. And ask if I want to continue". When I continue it boot OK and even LBA48 works - I can access all partitions. But I got this nasty BSOD on every startup. Is there some alternative and fully working LBA48 patch? Another question to SATA - why Win98SE cannot work with IDE/enhanced mode (1 PATA channel + 4 SATA ports?). In DOS 7.1 it works but Win98SE hangs during boot but works in safe mode. It's not too important now I can live with combined mode.

Plase could you link me to this thread? I searched for "LBA48" in thread titles and nothing else found... Aha, you probably meant "Enable48BitLBA | Break the 137Gb barrier!" OK EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED (I USED WRONG VERSION), MODS PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD

But on what hardware? I also didn't have problems to run SB or other ISA soundcards under DOS/9x on various PII/PIII systems with intel BX440 PCI/ISA mobos. But this is a P4 board with new chipset and some kind of PCI/ISA bridge chip and I'm not sure if it is compatible.

Hi, I just bought big SATA HDD WD 500GB. I set "IDE/combined" mode in SETUP (chipset: i945G+ICH7R) to operate 2 SATA ports like standard IDE channel (PATA have attached CDW+DVDW, SATA - HDD). I made here 1 FAT16 and 2 FAT32 (192GB) partitions. It's well accessible from DOS 7.1 but I can access only 1st FAT32 from Win98se. So I installed LBA48 patch (~100kB self-installation exe which should replace ESDI_506.PDR) The problem is a BSOD I got on next boot (translated from CZ): "Bad call of dynamic connection of VxD ESDI_506.PDR(03) + 000017EB to device 0026 service A. And ask if I want to continue". When I continue it boot OK and even LBA48 works - I can access all partitions. But I got this nasty BSOD on every startup. Is there some alternative and fully working LBA48 patch? Another question to SATA - why Win98SE cannot work with IDE/enhanced mode (1 PATA channel + 4 SATA ports?). In DOS 7.1 it works but Win98SE hangs during boot but works in safe mode. It's not too important now I can live with combined mode.

X-Fi has newer DSP than EMU10K2, hasn't?

Hi Mathias, I finally got this mobo from Commell yesterday. They sent it to me directly by EMS for quite good price in USD (220+50). I tried it very quickly but seems to have problem with soundcard in ISA slot. Did you managed to run any soundcard and games in DOS with sound? I have ESS1868 and SB AWE64 ISA to try. This soundard worked very well in DOS on my previous PIII mobos. SB drivers was initialized properly, assigning 220/5/1/5 resources as usual but any DOS program cannot play sound. It didn't find the soundcard or when it find it hanged when would started to play. Does I miss some important option in SETUP or is the ISA crippled in hardware/BIOS to not be true ISA but some cheap PCI emulation? Does it support ISA PnP devices? Soundcard was not listed during boot-up like other PCI devices. And under win98, can you play DOS games with sound?

Sorry, but I think the latest Creative's souncard supported in win9x was Audigy2. Running 2k/XP drivers in 98 would be near impossible.