shaddam Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) hello got the chance to get an powermeasurement device for an day and do tests on my 2 win98se systems.system specs1:k6-2 500, 64mb Sd-ram, via mvp3 board, 40gb ibm hdd, s3-whatever 2d only card, 300watt powerdevicewin98se german + usp2.1 + dx9 + via driver results1:'off' = 2,2 wattboot = ~65watt idle(desktop) = 58 wattidle(kcpucooler) = 37 watt (34% overall saving!)(measurement of complete pc without monitor)system specs2:amd64 3000+(venice), 1gb ram, nforce3 board, 250gb samsung hdd, 120 gb hdd, geforce5700 fx, pci ide extension card, 350watt powerdevicewin98se german + usp2.1 + dx9 + nforce driver+ amds gemback cool&quiet driverhttp://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_ty...CNQ_1_0_8_1.EXEresults2:'off' = 6,4 wattboot = ~110watt idle(desktop+Amd C&Q) = 82 wattidle(kcpucooler+Amd C&Q) = 75 watt(measurement of complete pc without monitor)win98se seems not to do any cpu power savings (even when acpi enabled?) when the systems idles, so, perhaps a kind of software cpucooler should be added to the uSP , maybe as option.also intressting was , that even with the amd powernow driver, the softcooler (which uses the HLT command only) can get another 7 watt saving....kcpucooler (free and small and robust)http://www.kt2k.com/software.php?id=8greets Edited May 19, 2006 by shaddam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyShadow Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I'm using Another Task Manager as a cpucooler, it's a great program to have. The only drawback is that it's shareware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLXX Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Rain is a small one that I used to use... http://www.freedownloads.be/downloaddetail...Rain-CPU-cooler (despite what it says in the link, it's actually 121Kb and not 121Mb )Here, where power is $0.03USD / kWh there is little need for power-saving devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Is a CPU cooler software that automatically scales back CPU power based on workload? Because if it's not, then your Athlon64 can seriously reduce its wattage by using AMD Cool'n'Quiet technology. I think it's possible for it to use as little as 30W system idle if you enable it. Only supported under XP though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihiy Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Only supported under XP though.NO!! http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...71_9706,00.htmlAMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Cool'n'Quiet Software for Windows ME and Windows 2000 Edited May 19, 2006 by Tihiy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainyd Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Tihiy, you're right! Shaddam, have you ever tried this software?Judging by this article - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/128 you can enable Cool'n'Quiet technology on Win98SE (look at third screenshoot!).Btw, I know excellent tool made by Russian programmers called RMClock Utility: http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtmlUnfortunately, this program requires at least Windows 2000 (the only chance to run it under Win98SE would be a kernel update which is done by Xeno86. Edited May 19, 2006 by rainyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaddam Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 Tihiy, you're right! Shaddam, have you ever tried this software?Judging by this article - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/128 you can enable Cool'n'Quiet technology on Win98SE (look at third screenshoot!).Btw, I know excellent tool made by Russian programmers called RMClock Utility: http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtmlUnfortunately, this program requires at least Windows 2000 (the only chance to run it under Win98SE would be a kernel update which is done by Xeno86.yes, this software driver from AMD was installed (and active, have seen the frequency toogling with some tools), but this driver seems not install an idle process which execute all the time HLT ...like the software cooler do... so for maximum powersaving both should be installed. has someone done also some measurement with an amd64 system?Rain is a small one that I used to use... http://www.freedownloads.be/downloaddetail...Rain-CPU-cooler (despite what it says in the link, it's actually 121Kb and not 121Mb )Here, where power is $0.03USD / kWh there is little need for power-saving devices ...ok maybe extended lifetime of cpu and noise reduction is a point for you energywasting americans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainyd Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Shaddam, there is something I don't understand. If this technology (Cool'n'Quiet) is enabled it automatically reduces CPU clock to 800 MHz from 1,8 GHz as in your case. (if you haven't overclocked it). It has to cause a significant drop of power consumption and therefore of temperature as well. Have you enabled this function on Power Option in Control Panel (in automatic mode)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camarade_Tux Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 (edited) Are you sure your CPU speed decreased ?I *heard* it was not possible with 98 because CPU was always used at 100%. Edited May 20, 2006 by Camarade_Tux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaddam Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Are you sure your CPU speed decreased ?I *heard* it was not possible with 98 because CPU was always used at 100%.not 100% ... but i see in 2 tools for mhz detection toggling between 1000 & 1800mhz .... (misdetection?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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