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smokeyjoint

98se life cycle?

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:hello: first off i luv 98se and with the sp2 and killer replacement its pretty fast and stable .hats off to gapes and mgdx great job.But with more and more apps reliling on nt base will appz 4 98se be phazed out soon or will a all windows format continue 4 a few more years?.plz comment on your views .as far as 98se goes i install it often on friends newbies pcs because its simple quick and easy 2 tweak.even when i offer them xp home with activation crack they opt 4 98se go figure. u tell me?

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as far as 98se goes i install it often

:no: (hey smokeyjoint ya mights wants ta edit your post before you ummmm "get moderated" I just got finished reading a thread that heavily was.)

Yeah I have to install 98 often ... on the same PC (over and over) with the restore disc or use whatever their code is from their OEM sticker. Too bad MS' Antispyware won't run on 98, it's the OS that REALLY needs it!!! Well the real time component anyway.

I see more software (including games) requiring Win 2000/XP @ a minimum....

I too like 98 (Well FAT32) since I can access it without a GUI. However I wouldn't sacrifice XP's stability for it. NTFS all the way. But it's simply not worth my time resintalling it. I will rarely reinstall 98. Either they (my clients) get XP or it's not worth my time and their money. At that point it is a "hobby computer" still worth it if you don't have to pay someone else to work on it. Sure drop some ram in. Make 98 go faster (if you can do it yourself).

XP is relatively easy to tweak. If you know how to double click on a text file with a .reg extension. A text file forged with notepad or other text editor. Yeah ok you don't need to hex edit some dll file to allow 98 to play nice with your custom theme.

98 will be around for quite a while since even the $500 or so for bargian computers might be out of someone's range to upgrade and some even run Win 3.1 or DOS (dosshell).

But I'd say that as far as mainstream, it will be become very difficult to find any new software supporting non 2k or up OSs (as far as windows goes). Just like the DVD blank media section has grown (larger) than the blank CD section at the computer store. Floppies are still there (barely). Same thing goes with the OS.

But if it still does what you need/want at a speed you can tollerate.... "it ain't obsolete!"

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I too like 98 (Well FAT32) since I can access it without a GUI.  However I wouldn't sacrifice XP's stability for it.  NTFS all the way.

Windows XP does not have to be installed on NTFS. You can install it on a FAT32 partition.

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giant antispyware works on 98 wheras ms antispyware does not

xp can indeed be installed under fat32 but officialy to a max of 32GB,there is a way around that 32GB limit

windows 98 will be around for many more years to come because of many reasons

some software like office 2003 don't work under 98 wheras office xp(2002)will work with 98 but in like 5 years from now, no new software will work for 98 unless companies still support 98.

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:rolleyes: realizing new software wont support 98se is kinda scarey if u enjoy 98se and if the messengers ,yahoo msn etc go that route itll be sad but time marches on and one day well be forced 2 use xp longhorn whatever piece of crap ms shove down our thoart but 4 now 98se is still doin the job the average job needs so lets party on dudes.

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:hello: hail 98se

... the main reason for dropping WIN98 SE support is a political one.... MS want to bring the customers to go to XP ...

See also Doom 3 ... out of the box it won't run on Win98 but with only few byte fixed it runs nice....

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even when i offer them xp home with activation crack

Um...

eh, AVOID using any XP activation cracks/keygens! Many of them don't work

with the XP home edition I have. Stick to using legit versions of XP. Best to

get Windows XP with a brand new desktop or laptop computer. More expensive

but you won't encounter upgrade hassles with xp when installing it on an older

computer. Certain updates and addons will refuse to install or impair pirated copies

of xp [wmp 10 is one of them].

All versions of Win98 [including WinME] will last beyond MS's extended support

date of june 30, 2006. Windows ME is technically 'Windows 98 Third Edition'.

Win98se & WinME include full WDM [Windows Driver Model] support; Win98fe

(1st edition) does not. Love Win98 SE AND WinME; they rock!

Doom 3 requires at least a Pentium 4 machine, 1.5 Ghz CPU with at least 384 megabytes of RAM.

Can't run it on PCs slower than 1.5 ghz processor. Look at all the minimum

requirements for Doom 3 either on its product box or check its web site.

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even when i offer them xp home with activation crack

Um...

eh, AVOID using any XP activation cracks/keygens! Many of them don't work

with the XP home edition I have. Stick to using legit versions of XP. Best to

get Windows XP with a brand new desktop or laptop computer. More expensive

but you won't encounter upgrade hassles with xp when installing it on an older

computer. Certain updates and addons will refuse to install or impair pirated copies

of xp [wmp 10 is one of them].

All versions of Win98 [including WinME] will last beyond MS's extended support

date of june 30, 2006. Windows ME is technically 'Windows 98 Third Edition'.

Win98se & WinME include full WDM [Windows Driver Model] support; Win98fe

(1st edition) does not. Love Win98 SE AND WinME; they rock!

Doom 3 requires at least a Pentium 4 machine, 1.5 Ghz CPU with at least 384 megabytes of RAM.

Can't run it on PCs slower than 1.5 ghz processor. Look at all the minimum

requirements for Doom 3 either on its product box or check its web site.

are you sure wmp 10 does that?from what i've seen it hasen't

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Please see this site:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19601

and you can't install xp sp2 on pirated copies of XP.

I will say it again to just use LEGIT editions of Windows XP. Microsoft will soon require Windows users to 'validate' their copies of Windows sometime in mid-2005

before downloading any new updates & new addons from the Microsoft download

center. if MS download center detects a bad or bootleg copy of windows, it will

refuse to offer users to download updates. more on this here:

http://bink.nu/Article3345.bink

And Microsoft is not, I repeat, NOT the only one that has product activation on some

of their new products.

Even some of Macromedia's software uses 'activation' similar to MS. noted here:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/activation/

but at least Macromedia's Flash Player & Shockwave Player are free and don't

require activation.

Even the ReGet download manager tool uses its own activation feature to verify

users that they're using an authorized copy of their download manager. The

Deluxe edition of ReGet mentions about product activation here:

http://deluxe.reget.com/en/reg_info_faq.htm

Anyways my brother got a laptop pre-installed with winxp home edition [oem]

sp1 back in late 2003, then update it to sp2.

stick to using win98se, 2000 or me if using older machines as they use less resources than winxp.

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QUOTE Please see this site:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19601

and you can't install xp sp2 on pirated copies of XP.

I will say it again to just use LEGIT editions of Windows XP.  Microsoft will soon require Windows users to 'validate' their copies of Windows sometime in mid-2005

before downloading any new updates & new addons from the Microsoft download

center.  if MS download center detects a bad or bootleg copy of windows, it will

refuse to offer users to download updates.  more on this here:

http://bink.nu/Article3345.bink

First off,

NO I DON”T USE OR OWN ANY PIRATED SOFTWARE - AND I DON”T SUPPORT IT!!! DON”T ASK ME FOR ANY LINKS PLEASE.

However: Since I have a legit copy of Windows XP, as being part of the Microsoft MSDN Members area… I have the right to Crack my own Software and Tweak with it as I please as long as I don’t Distribute it… Or so I think :rolleyes:

Ever hear of Microsoft Windows XP Pro (Corp) Build 2600 v5.1????? (Other Versions work too!)

I assume that you haven't because than you wouldn't be saying what you said... Using the right tools can make a big difference!

Using the "THE BLUE LIST QUALiTY", (XP KeY ReCoVeRER AND DiSCOVErER 5.12) this is no problem... other utility’s like "Win XP De-Activator v1.06" can also be useful, "RockXP v3.0". All are free and can be found via Google.

How do I know about this? Because I tried it... Wanted to know how Secure Microsoft’s WPA was, since they wouldn't shut up about it, (Read Document), as a user I needed to know and checking to see how it works. :whistle:

As far as Windows Loosing Functionally, They are talking more about Critical Updates and add-ons... (For the moment)

However, Microsoft has started to 'Check' into Validating XP CD Keys, (Using the Net), and other Serials via a BIG Serial Data Base, also by downloading and installing Updates/Software; example, SP2 - it checks for the most common Pirated Serials, but it doesn't know all of them... (Microsoft did this on purpose hoping that it would help prevent the So many Virus and trojans Break-outs lately making them more secure.)

Thus because of this you will need to Validate your Product Key or simply buy Windows XP. But this is not necessary at the moment... as long as WPA is still working, and if Microsoft is unable to determine that you have a Pirated copy... then how would they know??.... :D

I have included the whole report in a *.zip file. Read for yourself…

Sorry for making the Main Topic More Off Topic.. :P

Hacking_The_Windows_XP_Product_Activation.zip

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erpdude8 you are 100% incorrect about service pack 2

it can be installed under xp by slipstreaming it and windows media player 10 can be installed under windows xp sp1 &sp2

stick to 98 or 2000 if you don't want xp's activation

the corp editions don't need activation.

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