SAV 9 - Symantec AntiVirus 9.0

**1chaoticadult** · August 29, 2004

@mazin I hope you get the latest virus defs to work for ya. @cee-kay I'm testing SAV now to see if it works. I will report any errors if I find any. Later.

**1chaoticadult** · August 29, 2004

@cee-kay Bad news I'm still getting the error I reported earlier when trying to install SAV. I tried both my Main OS (on my laptop) and a Virtual OS (VMWare).

**mazin** · August 29, 2004

Bad news about extracting V.Defs will come soon!

**killerbee** · August 29, 2004

hi,

just downloaded the actual i32.exe and ran this:

20040828-003-i32.exe /Extract .\viri

copied it over to the admin install point and all runs fine...

hope this helps a bit

cya

Killer Bee

BTW: 1400-patch was applied and i ran a quiet LU v2.5-setup after it and no updates were available...

**mazin** · August 29, 2004

==========================================================
-- Orig Defs Files -- | i32 Defs Files -- | x86 Defs Files
==========================================================
01 X ---------------- | UPDATE.TXT ------ | UPDATE.TXT
02 VIRSCAN1.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN1.DAT ---- | X
03 VIRSCAN3.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN3.DAT ---- | X
04 VIRSCAN4.DAT ----- | VIRSCAN4.DAT ---- | X
05 VIRSCANT.DAT ----- | X --------------- | X
06 X ---------------- | X --------------- | DEFATTRS.DAT
07 X ---------------- | X --------------- | ECOMSRVR.NLM
08 X ---------------- | X --------------- | INSCANM.DAT
09 X ---------------- | X --------------- | LIC.DAT
10 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVENG.NLM
11 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVENG16.DLL
12 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.EXP
13 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.NLM
14 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.SYS
15 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX.VXD
16 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX15.NLM
17 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX15.WLD
18 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX16.DLL
19 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX16A.DLL
20 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVEX32.DLL
21 X ---------------- | X --------------- | NAVLIC.DAT
22 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VERSION.DAT
23 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN.DAT
24 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN1.DEF
25 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN2.DEF
26 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN2.PAM
27 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN3.DEF
28 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCAN4.DEF
29 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRSCANM.DAT
30 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD1.DAT
31 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD2.DAT
32 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD3.DAT
33 X ---------------- | X --------------- | VIRWILD4.DAT
==========================================================

X means not found.

As seen from the table, we're fooled by the idea of extracting virus definitions files. Neither i32 files nor x86 files are capable of performing REAL updating!

Well, you might say that you used i32 files successfully. And I'd say that you're fooled! Why?

Because you overwrote the existing files, thus, you left the old "VIRSCANT.DAT" and added "UPDATE.TXT" which wouldn't be installed, of course.

If you want to believe me, do the following:

1- Go to: C:\Program Files\Symantec AntiVirus\Virus Defs\, and you'll be surprised! "UPDATE.TXT" isn't there. HUH!?

2- Get connected to the Internet, run LiveUpdate, and you'll be surprised! SAV downloads updates that are supposed to be, already, on your computer. HUH!?

What if you use x86 files? The worst, of course.

What if you delete all old files before pasting extracted files of i32 or x86? Installation of SAV will be interrupted asking for "VIRSCANT.DAT". This was exactly what happened to me!

There are worse events, but this is enough for now.

Solution? Maybe!

**killerbee** · August 29, 2004

hi,

but i think it is working, because LiveUpdate(v2.5) says that everything is up to date and don't want to download anything...

hope this helps a bit

cya

Killer Bee

**killerbee** · August 29, 2004

hi,

just done a second installation and LU says everything is up-to-date...

what i have done:

1. created a admin install point with setup.exe /A

2. downloaded newest i32-virus definitions from here.

3. created a folder named viri in the same dir as the virus-defs are

4. ran virdefs with ...-i32.exe /Extract .\viri

5. copied everything from .\viri to the admin install point \Program Files\Symantec Antivirus\virus defs

6. downloaded SAVCE_9.0.0.1400_AllWin_EN .msp

7. integrated the update within the main program with this one

msiexec /p "SAVCE_9.0.0.1400_AllWin_EN .msp" /a "Symantec AntiVirus.msi" /QB

8. put it on my CD and ran it with

Symantec Antivirus.msi /QB

9. downloaded and extracted the Liveupdate v2.5 update and installed it with

lusetup -q

thats it and it works perfect

hope this helps a bit

cya

Killer Bee

BTW: it gets installed @ T-12min and is ofcourse unattended

**1chaoticadult** · August 29, 2004

Well for me mazin the virus defs say they are updated and works like killerbee said. I did what killerbee did and everything was fine.

**mazin** · August 30, 2004

@killerbee

@drthawhizkid

Thanks for the confirmation.

There may not be updates available for LU itself because you didn't integrate it, but performed live installation instead.

But did you try checking V.Defs updates more than one time? If you did and there were no updates available, then i32 works fine for you given that you overwrote the source, but not cleaned the source as I explained earlier.

However, can you tell me why people complained with SAV trying to download updates after installation despite V.Defs were integrated?

If my explanation did not provide the answer, then I'm completely wrong, despite the fact that MSIs install files by name!

Thanks.

**1chaoticadult** · August 30, 2004

@mazin I ran LiveUpdate more than once to see if it would show updates and it didn't. I don't know why its not working for ya. Sorry I hope you find an solution.

**1chaoticadult** · August 30, 2004

Also it seems VIRSCANT.DAT IS not updated when I extracted the files to virusdefs directory, but it didn't affect SAV reporting the current date of virusdefs (my case 8/28/2004) and LiveUpdate still didn't see any new updates.

**mazin** · August 30, 2004

@mazin I ran LiveUpdate more than once to see if it would show updates and it didn't. I don't know why its not working for ya. Sorry I hope you find an solution.

Well, thanks.

I downloaded the new V.Defs update (28/8). I'll try your steps (you & killerbee) and see if it works.

But I'd like to say that I'm worried about other people, too.

**killerbee** · August 30, 2004

hi,

i had it a long time that it wanted to download new vir-defs after i "slipstreamed" them, but it came from extracting the virdefs manually and not via the /Extract-switch. Ater i switched to the /Extract-method all is fine now. and even after calling LU 10 times it don't want to download anything new...

hope this helps a bit

cya

Killer Bee

**mazin** · August 30, 2004

i32 worked fine for me, too. Thank you all.

I think the guide on the first page must be updated now. Updates should be:

- Use i32 not x86.

- Overwrite not delete then extract.

@killerbee

You can enhance extraction process to be short and completely silent:

ECHO Updating AIP Virus Definitions
attrib -r "%systemdrive%\SAV91400\program files\Symantec AntiVirus\Virus Defs\*.*"
start /wait 20040828-003-i32.exe /Extract /Q "%systemdrive%\SAV91400\program files\Symantec AntiVirus\Virus Defs"

NB: I created a batch file to do all the job silently. B)

- Creating AIP.

- Patching AIP.

- Extracting V.Defs to AIP directly.

**1chaoticadult** · August 30, 2004

I'm glad to hear it worked for mazin. Now if I could just get LiveUpdate working using cee-kay' modified installer everything would cool.

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