j7n Posted May 17 Posted May 17 I tried to visit a website called a-z-animals.com today. It initially displayed, and then a moment later changed to a message about adblock being active. https://a-z-animals.com/animals/giant-wood-moth/ It turns out that it makes use a dedicated service to ensure advertisements don't get blocked. It makes a gazillion requests to multiple domain names. Some of them seem to be comprised of nonsensical words and likely will keep changing. I have noticed this strategy used by ad providers before. The ad-system is protected by CloudFlare and therefore cannot blocked by IP ranges without also blocking other CloudFlare sites. CloudFlare is becoming a menace of the Internet in multiple ways. I guess the only way is use an in-browser adblocker who will fetch the ads but hide them, which I don't want to use for non-essential websites. Blocking by IP has successfully worked for me with other ad networks that have many domains. I use a NAT rule to redirect IPs from a list to a dummy server. An error is returned immediately and the website opens without delay. After blocking all domains that I found, I can read the website in New Moon. But in Supermium I am interrupted by a message "There was a problem loading the page." .*html-load\.com .*content-loader\.com .*unfreezehuge\.com ad-delivery.net error-report.com report.error-report.com Even if I wanted to disable adblock for this particular site, I couldn't do it because it is implemented in DNS.
Nokiamies Posted May 17 Posted May 17 For that site using eMatrix with Palememe/NewMoon all it seems all required is CSS and images to for the domain a-z-animals.com, nothing else needed for subdomains. It loads just fine. Sadly this method is getting more and more hard to do as developers implement more intrusive means of identifying users. Most websites wont even load anymore unless you enable javascript, even to show row or two worth of text. Even more to add insult to injury many sites automatically accuses you for being bot or even goes to harrash you if fail their collective hive mind test that is laughed by anyone who knows or worked with modern day rogue bots 100% hacker and scraper proof test or crash your customized browser setup (anubis and cloudflare loves to do that). Let just say this way that big kids told me that there may be slight change you may be able to spoof headless bot setup to look like regular setup. While currently yes it takes bit of extra cpu time, in long terms as prices per instruction comes down on processors it is only extremely short term solution. As for machine learning model scraping, I can admit that is problem and those do bombard sites a lot. But I doubt the big players are stopping it just because of it. They likely already got workarounds with methods that I may or may not know. In long term this will only make web more and more hostile to end user and forcefully limit freedom of browsers. Even some ecommerce sites I used say I am bot when try access them. Well I guess I can buy stuff from your competitor and hopefully make you go bankrupt! Would you be fine if when going to store guard would do cavity search for you and interrogate you and then turn you out from the store since you like wear different type of clothes than others? Well I used to say not likely, but way world is going I am sure 99% of people would bow into that and even love cavity search and being treated like scum in name of catching few thieves. But for those who would not why would you accept same treatment on web then? This all reminds me bad old days when needed Internet Exploder 4 to view site for no good reason. I guess history repeat itself again... At this point I quit using 98% of the Internet, I do research on paper books or sometimes using old digital offline dictionaries on my old workstation. Aside from this forum I mostly login into bank and visit few small personal websites and few message boards that have not gone totally mad yet. I hate to say it but going offline is way to go forward... 1
j7n Posted May 17 Author Posted May 17 The site indeed can be read with JavaScript disabled. In classic Opera you could disable JavaScript at any point after the initial load and formatting. With today's browsers it can only be disabled entirely. Apparently this company is called "Ad Shield" and it's been around for a year or so. But I encountered it for the first time. I'm getting the repeating error message even on New Moon after a full reload. "PiHole" is a DNS blocker like what I am doing with Mikrotik. This works really well with freeware smartphone games, in combination with a sniffer to discover the domains. https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/1sw89js/psa_the_anti_adblock_service_ad_shield_is_coming/ "Ad Shield" seem to be really upset about "dark traffic" because we don't load Google analytics. Maybe they should have not overloaded a page with a hundred calls to such analytics to upset us. 1
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 17 Posted May 17 I didn't have to "do" anything special to access that site. My uBO defaults let me in with no "It initially displayed, and then a moment later changed to a message about adblock being active" happening here. Perhaps the bloated problem here is NOT the normal Google Analytics and Cloudflare "insights", but that this site is, if left alone to do its crap, using FACEBOOK CRAP in the background. (can't post screen cap, going to submit reply, delete profile attachments, and then post screencap)
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 17 Posted May 17 This is kind of cool. A web site that you give it the URL and it analyzes for bloat -- https://www.ranknibbler.com/ 1
EliraFriesnan Posted May 17 Posted May 17 18 hours ago, j7n said: in Supermium I am interrupted by a message "There was a problem loading the page." You like to torture yourself? Why do you stilll use them? I advise you to finally stop using those odd, highly questionable. heavily outdated browsers. There's a good Chinese port (link} of the REAL (Official Build, ungoogled-chromium, unlike Supermium claims to be) for XP and Vista! Proof - 1
EliraFriesnan Posted May 17 Posted May 17 12 hours ago, Nokiamies said: At this point I quit using 98% of the Internet, Good boy! I too quit a long time ago and buy all offline. CloudFlare can go and screw themselves, don't worry, we shall soon bankrupt them. After all, you and I live in rich countries that make most purchases, I convinced my friends and neighbours to boycott them. Do the SAME! 1
EliraFriesnan Posted May 17 Posted May 17 4 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: I didn't have to "do" anything special to access that site. Me too!!! The problem actually is inside of the outdated Java engine of the odd, highly outdated browsers he uses. Of course, CloudFlare can easily scan and block those. But some people still want to believe Supermium and the such are "new". There already was a rather detailed explanation by @D.Draker and @mjd79! 1
user57 Posted May 18 Posted May 18 supermium is still an elite achievement, i remember the discussions with the Skia Engine in a Chinese forum "TAO-KAISEN" or something like that. here the discussion was still with Chrome 49 - that was the last official version of Chrome to XP. they actually failed to revert it back to GDI, but I had made it back then - since then I haven't seen the website anymore. Only then did I see many Chrome versions appear for XP from version 49 to 144 is way of a gap the jump is like very huge i wonder it even got that far actually there is also the firefox question, but it seems that things are not easy there either - but people are trying - from what i remember it was over 320 functions without the one-core.dll´s (not the one core api from sam) with one-core.dll i mean the side dll´s that compilers compile up its not simple stuff, if it would redfox would already have done the goal of v144 firefox it often sounds like every problem related in xp around can be solved in like 1 second without any problems first thing that came to mind is that xp needs a browser - if i had to choose firefox or chrome i certainly would have choosen chrome other things would be a better solution for the PAE/PSE or even more then 4 GB space in only 1 executable, the 4 k sector question, a h.266 codec, maybe WPA3, maybe a newer nvida driver, a smaller idea would be TLS1.3 for the IE8 without a proxy (but we have chrome so why) a second browser would at least be for me not on the priority list because there is one around already, first when the other things are solved then at least for me the firefox quesiton would apear if not we need just more people doing these things, then more things could be solved quickly i think everybody has a open eye what we can do for a chrome in xp, maybe you can offer some code too
EliraFriesnan Posted May 18 Posted May 18 2 hours ago, user57 said: 144 Do you mean Supermium "144"? Why then it can't load the page, if it's indeed 144, and not 109 with a faked version number, like many people think? On 5/17/2026 at 6:08 AM, j7n said: in Supermium I am interrupted by a message "There was a problem loading the page."
user57 Posted May 18 Posted May 18 39 minutes ago, EliraFriesnan said: Do you mean Supermium "144"? Why then it can't load the page, if it's indeed 144, and not 109 with a faked version number, like many people think? you can compile it up yourself ? it is open source the link you showed is not for windows XP its for windows 7, its not a chinese version above supermium windows have internal numbers where XP is version 5.1 it came to a lot of changed when gone to 6.0 (vista) 6.1 (windows7) and 6.2 (aka win8 and 8.1), windows 10 suppose to be 6.3 but they called it 10 win7 is not far away from 8 and therefore not far from 10, while going back to xp is a lot more, windows 7 is just a improved vista
EliraFriesnan Posted May 18 Posted May 18 2 hours ago, user57 said: the link you showed is not for windows XP its for windows 7, its not a chinese version above supermium windows have internal numbers where XP is version 5.1 It works with XP! Please bother to read the description before posting. Attaching the screengrab in case you're blocked on github, https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7-REWORK/releases
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 18 Posted May 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, user57 said: the link you showed is not for windows XP its for windows 7 Members in this discussion are permanently on my ignore list (via userstyle, so blocked/hidden even if I am not logged in!), so I apologize if this is a repeat. But I can confirm that Supermium linked v150 (I only extracted the mini-installer, I never execute "installers") does indeed work in XP. Supermium's "About" screen no longer shows it as "Supermium", but this is the extracted mini-installer. In fact, I couldn't find "Supermium" branding referenced anywhere, not in file properties, not in "About", not in "flags", but I can't claim to have spent a lot of time hunting. This is the most recent Supermium v150, not installed, just extracted, and running in XP. Edited May 18 by NotHereToPlayGames
EliraFriesnan Posted May 18 Posted May 18 2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: But I can confirm that Supermium v150 does indeed work in XP. It's NOT Supermium. It's ANOTHER browser made by e3kskoy7wqk and @mjd79!
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