This is my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, 256MB, 128bit... wait...

[ragnargd]

Ok, have i been scammed or not? All of you Sherlock Holmes` of the Hardware world, please engage ...

Cheers,

P.S.: If any thing looks too good to be true... i´d make some bucks on ebuy ...

(128bit, 256MB, no power connector... ATI Radeon 9600 XT ? But the inscription on the GPU looks genuine... And just now my last working AGP-board died... )

[Saxon]

Greetings to Germany! The chip looks legit. RV360 (215R9JCGA13F)

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-9600-xt.c30

[Saxon]

14 hours ago, ragnargd said:

no power connector...

Indeed right, it doesn't need one since it's 22w only. Suggested PSU 200W.

[ragnargd]

12 hours ago, Saxon said:

Greetings to Germany! The chip looks legit. RV360 (215R9JCGA13F)

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-9600-xt.c30

Saxon, i should have googled that myself. THANK YOU! So this is a true chinese fake...

Cheers,

[jumper]

Fake of what? Looks like a no-name clone of the ATI reference design. "Accelerate" LOL

 

[Karla Sleutel]

11 hours ago, jumper said:

Fake of what? Looks like a no-name clone of the ATI reference design. "Accelerate" LOL

 

Probably, you didn't pay enough attention to the screenshots, The VRAM modules do look different on the China knock-off (much bigger).

[Karla Sleutel]

On 10/4/2024 at 6:22 PM, Saxon said:

Greetings to Germany! The chip looks legit. RV360 (215R9JCGA13F)

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-9600-xt.c30

Yes, the chip looks the same, but it's obviously a much cheaper design, with some very old memory modules. Prolly slower VRAM.

If it isn't borked, it may work.

[Karla Sleutel]

I never liked the Nvidia partner board designs, they can easily cheap out on the manufacturing process and the resulting product is slower than the default design.

[Rod Steel]

On 10/5/2024 at 1:03 AM, ragnargd said:

(128bit, 256MB, no power connector... ATI Radeon 9600 XT ?

Why don't you use GPU-Z to find out. Also, did you buy this new on ebay? Why? There is ton of original super-cheap used AGP videocards on used market. Like Radeon X800GTO\XL\XT or Geforce 6800\GT\Ultra. So why buy this?

The original Radeon 9700 PRO have 256 bit memory by the way.

[jumper]

22 hours ago, Karla Sleutel said:

Probably, you didn't pay enough attention to the screenshots, The VRAM modules do look different on the China knock-off (much bigger).

Actually, I did. It's a slightly different implementation of the reference design, but still exactly what it claims to be on the box.

 

[Karla Sleutel]

12 hours ago, jumper said:

Actually, I did. It's a slightly different implementation of the reference design, but still exactly what it claims to be on the box.

 

Those look very much older, most likely used to get the costs down. Very similar to the items from the 80s/90s, not 2003. 

[jumper]

Agreed. Possibly made or refurbished with recycled parts.

 

[ragnargd]

I bought it many years ago, before i was even on MSFN (around 2006? Still might have the receipt around here... dunnow...), and it was dirt-cheap, regarding what it claimed to be.
Still, the chip-id correctly names this is a 9600 XT (kudos @Saxon), and everything else makes sense with THAT chip, and that chip alone.

It worked for many years, i was able to cool it passively without a sweat, triple-boot with w98SE, XP Pro and W7 Pro 64 bit (this would not have been possible with less than 256MB of memory!), played i played Diablo (1) on it (on W7 in a VM! Don't do this at home... ;-( ), so in the end, who am i to complain?

So I had lots of fun with it, and that's what counts, correct? Kudos to the chinese engineers playing this joke on me!

I only discovered this strange effect when my last working AGP-board died, so i have no reference-MoBo to test it on anymore, that's why i look up, instead of testing it.
I now just bury my AGP-era hardware on ebay, offering condolences while sending them off, and send a prayer to rloew (as much as it is possible, as i'm an atheist, which would fit that 'ole hacker).

Thank you for all your assistance and thoughts, that's why i love being on MSFN!!!! ;-)
 

Edited October 16, 2024 by ragnargd

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Well, the R300 and the die size look right for a Radeon 9700, the rv350 and rv360 are much smaller and have half the pixel pipes as also seen on that linked techpowerup page . I have a similar board, only with an R350 and a power connector.

[173a]