Overall performance comparison between different computers under Windows XP

[NotHereToPlayGames]

39 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

Small interim info. All scores are displayed except for the PCMark score. It seems that one test from the systems test suite fails, and therefore no score can be calculated as a multiple of the geometric mean of all individual test results in the systems test suite.

I will calculate the PCMark Score from the successfully performed tests in the systems test suite myself. 

So are you going to fill in a "zero" for the failed tests?  Or just geomean a smaller subset?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Test just completed.  32 minutes and some odd seconds.

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

1 hour ago, AstroSkipper said:

Small interim info. All scores are displayed except for the PCMark score. It seems that one test from the systems test suite fails, and therefore no score can be calculated as a multiple of the geometric mean of all individual test results in the systems test suite.

I will calculate the PCMark Score from the successfully performed tests in the systems test suite myself. 

So are you going to fill in a "zero" for the failed tests?  Or just geomean a smaller subset?

A geometric mean is the nth root of a product with n factors. If you set one value to zero, the whole product will be zero and the nth root of zero is zero. My answer to your first question is therefore no. You can't set a value from your data to zero. And yes, you have to reduce the set of values, i.e. you have to build a smaller subset by removing characteristics.

Edited September 7, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[UCyborg]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

I'll have a score in 34 minutes, starting "now".  But something also tells me that if this is "estimated" at 34 minutes, it's going to be much MUCH worse than that!

I think this is hardcoded. It completed in 22 minutes here.

Edited September 7, 2024 by UCyborg

[AstroSkipper]

Test completed. Unfortunately, as reported, no PCMark Score was calculated due to two tests in the System Test Suite that failed:

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Multithreaded Test 1:
    Audio Compression: N/A
    Video Encoding: Initialization failed

Here are my results:



My self-calculated PCMark Score gained by reducing the discrete characteristic values is 1290. Of course without any guarantee, as it is not quite clear which units PCMark05 uses in its algorithm. But I think I did it right.
Here are my detailed values:

<<< System Information >>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    System Model                       MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6391
    Processor                          Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
    Physical Memory                    1.5 GB
    Graphic                            NVIDIA GeForce 6200
    Video Memory                       256 MB
    Operating System                   Microsoft Windows XP (5.1.2600) 32-bit
    Application                        PCMark05


<<< Result >>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  < Main Test Results >

    PCMark                             0,0                 PCMarks
    CPU                                3.049,0             
    Memory                             2.034,0             
    Graphics                           1.335,0             
    HDD                                5.107,0             

  < System Test Suite >

    HDD - XP Startup                   11.035.388,0        B/s
    Physics and 3D                     76,2                FPS
    Transparent Windows                391,1               windows/s
    3D - Pixel Shader                  33,5                FPS
    Web Page Rendering                 1,6                 pages/s
    File Decryption                    54.567.500,0        B/s
    Graphics Memory - 64 lines         354,6               FPS
    HDD - General Usage                7.412.013,0         B/s
    Audio Compression                  0,0                 
    Video Encoding                     0,0                 
    Text edit                          42,1                pages/s
    Image Decompression                8.869.950,3         pixels/s
    File Compression                   2.236.637,5         B/s
    File Encryption                    14.321.510,0        B/s
    HDD - Virus Scan                   17.429.826,0        B/s
    Memory Latency - Random 16 MB      4.948.194,5         accesses/s

  < CPU Test Suite >

    File Compression                   8.475.572,0         B/s
    File Decompression                 92.539.640,0        B/s
    File Encryption                    61.333.580,0        B/s
    File Decryption                    51.141.084,0        B/s
    Image Decompression                19.719.909,7        pixels/s
    Audio Compression                  2.027.561,7         B/s
    File Compression                   4.393.688,0         B/s
    File Encryption                    29.755.038,0        B/s
    File Decompression                 23.497.330,0        B/s
    File Decryption                    13.191.807,0        B/s
    Audio Decompression                532.577,2           B/s
    Image Decompression                5.039.531,7         pixels/s

  < Memory Test Suite >

    Memory Read - 16 MB                926.653.120,0       B/s
    Memory Read - 8 MB                 928.947.840,0       B/s
    Memory Read - 192 KB               21.672.546.304,0    B/s
    Memory Read - 4 KB                 39.685.492.736,0    B/s
    Memory Write - 16 MB               901.376.320,0       B/s
    Memory Write - 8 MB                900.723.200,0       B/s
    Memory Write - 192 KB              12.219.063.296,0    B/s
    Memory Write - 4 KB                12.250.072.064,0    B/s
    Memory Copy - 16 MB                867.653.760,0       B/s
    Memory Copy - 8 MB                 862.753.856,0       B/s
    Memory Copy - 192 KB               7.173.510.656,0     B/s
    Memory Copy - 4 KB                 12.217.476.096,0    B/s
    Memory Latency - Random 16 MB      4.948.194,5         accesses/s
    Memory Latency - Random 8 MB       5.298.853,9         accesses/s
    Memory Latency - Random 192 KB     143.647.140,5       accesses/s
    Memory Latency - Random 4 KB       1.404.406.372,1     accesses/s

  < Graphics Test Suite >

    Transparent Windows                392,7               windows/s
    Graphics Memory - 64 lines         354,1               FPS
    Graphics Memory - 128 lines        248,9               FPS
    WMV Video Playback                 19,7                FPS
    3D - Fill Rate Multi-Texturing     1.334.127.441,4     texels/s
    3D - Polygon Throughput Multiple   8.536.705,0         triangles/s
    3D - Pixel Shader                  33,6                FPS
    3D - Vertex Shader                 5.565.621,9         vertices/s

  < HDD Test Suite >

    HDD - XP Startup                   10.599.348,0        B/s
    HDD - Application Loading          8.399.760,0         B/s
    HDD - General Usage                7.344.671,5         B/s
    HDD - Virus Scan                   63.417.920,0        B/s
    HDD - File Write                   43.694.524,0        B/s

For my PCMark Score calculation I took MB/s instead of B/s as shown in the details here:





Comparing my values with @NotHereToPlayGames's ones, his Intel Atom CPU seems indeed to be weaker than mine.

[George King]

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[NotHereToPlayGames]

12 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

his Intel Atom CPU seems indeed to be weaker than mine.

Today is the first time that I've ever ran Speedometer 2.1 scores on this POS.

Single-digit scores!

[NotHereToPlayGames]

24 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

his Intel Atom CPU seems indeed to be weaker than mine.

Your Pentium 4 is "3 to 4 times faster".  I think I even saw some side-by-side numbers where yours is close to FIVE times faster.

Edited September 7, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[AstroSkipper]

38 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Your Pentium 4 is "3 to 4 times faster".  I think I even saw some side-by-side numbers where yours is close to FIVE times faster.

That seems exaggerated to me. I have disclosed all my values in detail, even from the CPU Test Suite. Where are yours?  Without these values, your statement is just conjecture and not statistically proven. You just wanted to set a value for calculating a geometric mean to zero, and now you want to be able to read from an artificially, completely arbitrarily obtained value how many times faster my CPU is than yours. That's very funny. 

Edited September 7, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[NotHereToPlayGames]

30 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

Where are yours?

Mine are posted BEFORE YOURS via screencap.

This post  --  https://msfn.org/board/topic/186451-overall-performance-comparison-between-different-computers-under-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1272354

And post immediately following it.

If your ad-blocker or something is blocking the screencap, um, that's not "my fault", lol.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

33 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

That's very funny. 

It's true that I "forgot" what a geomean was, but I would have refreshed my memory, I am not stupid.

And again, MY RESULTS WERE POSTED BEFORE YOU POSTED YOURS.  I only screencap'd the first section because you cited we were going to perform a geomean and multiply by 87.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I can run the tests again and post ALL but you yourself even stated that you agreed, this Intel Atom is a PIECE OF SH#T.

I'd really really really hate hate hate to have to spend the half an hour just to run these tests again.

Especially considering another member is suggesting a Windows 2000 install and I am considering it.

This Acer Aspire One is a total and complete PIECE OF SH#T.  I think I have jumped through enough hoops to PROVE THAT.

[AstroSkipper]

13 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Mine are posted BEFORE YOURS via screencap.

This post  --  https://msfn.org/board/topic/186451-overall-performance-comparison-between-different-computers-under-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1272354

And post immediately following it.

If your ad-blocker or something is blocking the screencap, um, that's not "my fault", lol.

Unfortunately, nonsense. You didn't provide your values. Only the values from the System Test Suite via screenshot. Where is the list of all values? You only get them via exporting from PCMark05. Look at my post:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/186451-overall-performance-comparison-between-different-computers-under-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1272362
I mean the detailed values I posted in the code area. And the values in the section CPU Test Suite have to be compared to get information how many times faster my CPU is than yours. 

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by AstroSkipper
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[NotHereToPlayGames]

And please take a step back.  It was YOU YOURSELF that said we needed to not base comparisons on CPU BENCHMARKS but use this "test suite" instead.

We can (and did, but you didn't believe their numbers) cite CPU comparisons strictly by visiting web sites that perform those comparisons.  No need to run a half hour test.

I think we're done here, agreed?  My Intel Atom is a PIECE OF SH#T.