Overall performance comparison between different computers under Windows XP

[Multibooter]

1 hour ago, Saxon said:

Those era notes usually had 8MB of real VRAM, the rest was borrowed from the system.

I also have an internal 4MB video card for the Inspiron 7500. My Inspiron 8000, the successor model to the Inspiron 7500, has a 32MB video card, but if I remember right it doesn't fit physically into the Inspiron 7500 and, if it did, it might damage the DC-DC board in the Inspiron 7500 because of the higher power consumption. The Inspiron 7500 is my favorite oldtimer laptop, it works with three internal HDDs/SSDs, which do use already a lot of current. The DC-DC board is the 2nd most fragile part in the Inspiron 7500, after the cracking hinges and the cracking plastic.

Edited September 10, 2024 by Multibooter

[AstroSkipper]

<<< System Information >>>
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    System Model                       MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-6391
    Processor                          Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
    Physical Memory                    1.5 GB
    Graphic                            NVIDIA GeForce 6200
    Video Memory                       256 MB
    Operating System                   Microsoft Windows XP (5.1.2600) 32-bit
    Application                        PCMark05


<<< Result >>>

The value 1.5 GB was edited by me. Due to my nature, I hate wrong values. 

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But if we are keeping track, that's one "for" 'all necessary updates' and two "against". 

I am like a rock in the surf (German saying).  BTW, from a statistical point of view, the sample size is too small for any meaningful conclusions. 

Edited September 10, 2024 by AstroSkipper
correction

[UCyborg]

Thought I'd see some faster computers here. Mine really isn't all that fast. 4K video, MadVR, that puts really good load on it. I ran ls -all command through ADB shell to list one folder content on my Android smartphone while video was playing, the output was nice and slow then.

Found another metric where there can be relatively large difference - pushing file to the phone, eg.:

adb push some_larger_file.xyz /dev/null

ADB version is important and of course Windows XP would be stuck with some ancient long obsolete version. There are probably numerous other factors at play and different phones and their software, but in my case, the computer is a bottleneck.

I happened to have an old version from 2019 on my 10 install, it manages 4,7 MB/s. Upgrading ADB to the latest version speeds it up to 5,3 MB/s. Linux from 2020 with whatever version was in Ubuntu's repos then shows the rate of 6 MB/s.

2018 laptop at work running Windows 10 1809 pushes data at 11,5 MB/s!

Edited September 13, 2024 by UCyborg

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I consider my computer to be "average".  But I am "not interested" in installing PCMark on my primary comptuer.  Maybe in a VM.  My OS is bloatware-free.  Why install bloat to my bloatware-free computer just to post "results"?

Probably "faster" than the typical MSFN Member but that's because MSFN is over-populated with Vista and XP users.

Nothing "wrong" with that, just saying those of us on this forum are probably significantly "below average" as far as the "average computer owner".

Personally, in my opinion, all that this round of PCMark results comparisons really did was to PROVE that websites like this (my CPU) are already SPOT ON, without the need to install PCMark and post "results".

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Compared to the AMD Phenom II X4 920 that you screencap'd, my computer runs circles around you, lol.

[AstroSkipper]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But I am "not interested" in installing PCMark on my primary comptuer.  Maybe in a VM. 

You can't do any meaningful hardware performance tests with PCMark inside a VM. You already did that, and as expected, it didn't turn out well.

On 9/6/2024 at 11:33 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Ugh!  All my results are BLANK.  Says I must select System Tests and they ARE selected.

Appears to be VM related.  UNFORTUNATE.

BTW, all your posted images are no longer available. Providing images in this way actually makes no sense at all.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

7 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

BTW, all your posted images are no longer available. Providing images in this way actually makes no sense at all.

Agreed ("net etiquette").  But also "do not care".

My discussions are "here and now".  I paste into the reply box.  When I can no longer paste, all previous pastes get deleted to make room for the new pastes.

I will not turn a 15-second reply into a 2-minute reply and use an image-hosting service.  When I am retired and have more free time, sure, I'll jump through those hoops.

In the meantime, sorry, but "do not care".

Show me a Forum Rule where each and every image that I paste into a reply is to be accessible for the next DECADE.

Edited September 14, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[Saxon]

12 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Agreed ("net etiquette").  But also "do not care".

My discussions are "here and now".  I paste into the reply box.  When I can no longer paste, all previous pastes get deleted to make room for the new pastes.

I will not turn a 15-second reply into a 2-minute reply and use an image-hosting service.  When I am retired and have more free time, sure, I'll jump through those hoops.

In the meantime, sorry, but "do not care".

Show me a Forum Rule where each and every image that I paste into a reply is to be accessible for the next DECADE.

Don't post if you don't care, it has nothing to do with anything you wrote. It's just common sense, not everyone can visit the site daily like you do every day, several times per day.

Keeping the screens for one month, at least, it's more appropriate and makes sense. You again over-exaggerate about "decades".

[NotHereToPlayGames]

This topic is clearly DEAD.  Just a bunch of OT rambling now.

@Saxon - Why not post your PCMark05 scores and bring us back ON-TOPIC?

[Saxon]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

This topic is clearly DEAD.  Just a bunch of OT rambling now.

@Saxon - Why not post your PCMark05 scores and bring us back ON-TOPIC?

Because I agree with you, and don't want to install the crappy DX9 on my PC. I actually agree with you sometimes, but not in the case with attachments.

And I think D.Draker was the first one here to point out to DX9 being a severely outdated, buggy, bloated piece of garbage.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

44 minutes ago, Saxon said:

but not in the case with attachments

Life is too short.  You have your priorities.  I have mine.  Jumping through hoops for image-hosting or how long an attachment has been allowed to be viewed is NOWHERE near the top of MY priority list.

I do agree, images should stay long enough for proper flow of the discussion.  I personally think they DID stay long enough.  Folks that show up "a month" from 'here and now', not my problem.  

To each their own, of course.

Besides, if we started pointing out net-etiquette mischief, it would only take about a month for MSFN to dwindle down to "next to nothing".

Trolls would move on.  Bad grammar folks would move on.  Rep Farming folks would move on.  All of these folks do post very useful content.  But they also violate net-etiquette here and there.

If we started banning the violators, we would still exist, but our numbers would be "next to nothing".

Again, to each their own, of course.

[AstroSkipper]

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Agreed ("net etiquette").  But also "do not care".

My discussions are "here and now".  I paste into the reply box.  When I can no longer paste, all previous pastes get deleted to make room for the new pastes.

I will not turn a 15-second reply into a 2-minute reply and use an image-hosting service.  When I am retired and have more free time, sure, I'll jump through those hoops.

Which hoops?  TBH, there are none.  Of course, only if you have chosen a well-functioning image hoster. In any case, I don't have to permanently delete pictures so that I have storage space for others. 

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Life is too short.  You have your priorities.  I have mine.  Jumping through hoops for image-hosting or how long an attachment has been allowed to be viewed is NOWHERE near the top of MY priority list.

Life is too short for posting images via an image hoster, but life is not too short for posting permanently off-topic treatises. Of course!  That really makes sense! 

[NotHereToPlayGames]

6 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said:

Of course!  That really makes sense! 

How do you spell "too shay"?  

[Saxon]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

How do you spell "too shay"?  

"too shy"

[UCyborg]

On 9/10/2024 at 1:46 PM, Multibooter said:

Maybe the main benefit of this "pinewood derby" was the social effect, adding to the feeling of community here at msfn.org.

Meh, all I still feel at this place is alienation.