Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) @Andalu I change on the Ramsey XP the whole HIVE system against my working one. On Safe Mode, the Ramsey XP boots for few seconds to full desktop, without any error message, then reboots. On normal boot, I get the Bsod 7F again. This is really crazy Dietmar EDIT: That the Ramsey XP boots in Safe Mode is an indicator for an driver conflict of the nvme.sys driver. Edited December 27, 2022 by Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andalu Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) @Dietmar to enter on the desktop with the XP from Ramsey you can try to delete winxpup.inf from the prepared ISO. In this way you will encounter many errors for missing files (the first one during TXT mode for winxpup.inf) but by clicking "esc and OK" on the various messages the installation can be completed anyway. XP so installed will be almost unusable, and unfortunately, you will not be able to install the video driver either, which I believe is the factor that causes a change in XP's configuration that leads to the conflict with the nvme driver we are testing. With other NVMe drivers and in XP x64 with installed the driver we are testing the NVMe drive and the video card share the same IRQ 16 but I never encountered the BSOD 7F. Edited December 27, 2022 by Andalu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 @Andalu It looks, as if XP uses only the model for IRQ 0...17 (not enlarged). And with this, about 10 devices have IRQ 16. This does not like this new nvme.sys driver. I catch the moment of fail: 9 devices have already IRQ16. With the graphikcard NVIDIA install, this next device wants IRQ16 also. This is too much, gives Bsod 7F on next reboot. But the compi starts in Safe Mode, without graphikcard on IRQ16. @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you have an idea, how to enable the enlarged IRQ (0...255?) under XP SP3 Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) @Andalu I succeed to boot with this new nvme.sys driver on the Samsung 970 Pro, and graphikcard gt730 Nvidia and all the devices under IRQ16. For this I setup my original XP SP3 *.iso, modd it via Ramsey, but edit all by hand. I use my new acpi.sys with OS fakes. The setup took place via Firadisk and the Kai driver for HD on my Asrock extreme z690 board with 12900k cpu. Then, I install really everything on this HD. And at the end also the new nvme.sys driver by hand. This XP SP3 on HD I "show" to the 970 Pro, means I connect the 970 Pro. In registry I set Start = 4 for the stornvme.sys. Then I copy via AOMEI 7.0 this whole HD to the 970 Pro. Voila, boots very fast via the new nvme.sys, no Bsod Dietmar Edited December 27, 2022 by Dietmar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Here is the succesful acpiLOG of the new nvme driver Dietmar https://ufile.io/0fndmhi6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mov AX, 0xDEAD Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Dietmar said: @Andalu It looks, as if XP uses only the model for IRQ 0...17 (not enlarged). And with this, about 10 devices have IRQ 16. This does not like this new nvme.sys driver. On same IRQ can be many devices, this is concept, when irq signal triggered, windows call handler for each driver in cycle. Driver then check hardware registers of device and if it say "interrupt was not initiated by my device", windows call next driver, etc. i think problem in nvme/storport itself, maybe it expects MSI type of interrupt or uses too much stack memory or some else 3 hours ago, Dietmar said: @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you have an idea, how to enable the enlarged IRQ (0...255?) under XP SP3 cannot help with this, i don't know how pci.sys works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) @Mov AX, 0xDEAD When I compare nvme2.txt with nvme3.txt I see, that the crash belongs to the graphik driver together with the nvme.sys, very near to the end of the boot process Dietmar nvme2.txt MiSessionWideReserveImageAddress: NO Code Sharing on \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxg.sys, Address 0xbf000000 *** Fatal System Error: 0x0000007f (0x00000008,0xBA3D0D70,0x00000000,0x00000000) nvme3.txt MiSessionWideReserveImageAddress: NO Code Sharing on \SystemRoot\System32\nv4_disp.dll, Address 0xbd012000 8A21A080 8 (0x886fb008): ACPIDeviceIrpDeviceFilterRequest - Transition to D2 8A21A080 8 (0x8a0a7730): ACPIDevicePowerProcessPhase0DeviceSubPhase1 = 0x00000000 8A21A080 8 ACPIDeviceCompleteGenericPhase = 0x00000000 8A21A080 8 (0x8a0a7730): ACPIDevicePowerProcessPhase0DeviceSubPhase2 Edited December 27, 2022 by Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) @Andalu This means, that this new nvme.sys driver is not usable on normal XP SP3 install. IF you succeed to install it, it is stable. No crash then, all ok. All nvme devices are recogniced. The Silicon nvme driver you succeed to install, but then behaves unstable, brr.. The Toshiba nvme driver recognices only Toshiba nvme devices, there it is stable. So, until now only the Microsoft stornvme.sys works correct always under XP SP3 with any nvme device, the OFA 1.3 nvme driver (works with most nvme devices), is stable and sometimes the Samsung nvme driver (does not recognice a lot of non Samsung devices), is stable. Until now no trim under XP SP3 on nvme and no working CrystalDiskInfo. Today again I make a very strange discovery with the Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB nvme device: After about 17% zero out with WinHex, it hangs. When you trim it via win10, you can wipe out 50%, again crash. And the most most bad: from 3970 MB/sec speed goes down to 20 MB/sec, much less than any harddisk. When you connect the Samsung 970 Pro with an USB encloser, only about 50% files that you copy, are in real there. When I use the Optane 900P or 905P, such crazy bad things never happen and it is from feeling always faster than any other nvme Dietmar Edited December 27, 2022 by Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnation Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 @Dietmar Regarding only having IRQ 1-15 in XP. Don't you need to be using an APIC to get more than 16 IRQs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mov AX, 0xDEAD Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) @Dietmar I still thinking this is stack problem: Quote .text:00413976 push ebp .text:00413977 mov ebp, esp .text:00413979 sub esp, 0AA8h .text:0041397F lea eax, [ebp+var_AA8] .text:00413985 push esi 1) 413976 - some procedure entry inside nvme,sys, esp at this point is ba294f9c+AA8= BA295A44 or BA295A40 or BA295A48 It allocate local buffer on kernel stack with size AA8 = 2728 Bytes I think stack pool ended at BA295000, 4k aligned ba294f9c is below stack pool so get BSOD when driver PUSH ESI to this memory 2) Win7/Win8 kernels have kernel KeExpandKernelStackAndCallout(), it is emulated by NTOSKRNL Emu_Extender If nvme uses it and some wrong with emulation code (i never tested this procedure) -> driver tried to allocate more stack pool, but really it was not happen, so stack is same size. Edited December 28, 2022 by Mov AX, 0xDEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you have an idea, what I can test more with this new nvme.sys driver? May be, with the working XP SP3 install with this nvme.sys as scsi boot driver? Or what can be changed, tested in the NTOSKRNL Emu_Extender ? It is a nice driver, because it recognices ALL nvme devices and if it is work, it is stable. I also make an try with the last version of the acpi.sys 6666 from outerspace ). This gives exact the same Bsod 7F, (0x08,..) Dietmar EDIT: Can I enlarge the stack by hand in this nvme driver by hand in .text:00413979 sub esp, 0AA8h Edited December 28, 2022 by Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyOC Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 This is all so interesting to me. I'd love to install XP on my MSI Z690-A Pro WiFi D4 for 3DMark01 runs with my 13900K on Ln2! I have no idea where to even start. Would someone be able to provide assistance, or maybe even an image if they've had it working on the same or similar board? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 @RandyOC I have the MSI z690-A Pro DDR4 just without wifi. I succeed after loong testing to install XP SP3 to this board with 12900k cpu. Please tell me, which drivers you want and I make an xp.iso for you Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyOC Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dietmar said: @RandyOC I have the MSI z690-A Pro DDR4 just without wifi. I succeed after loong testing to install XP SP3 to this board with 12900k cpu. Please tell me, which drivers you want and I make an xp.iso for you Dietmar that would be unbelievable mate! thank you!! if you can do USB, that would be amazing, but I'm sure I could work without it. I need an NVIDIA drivers for 900 series, and that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietmar Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) @RandyOC Most easy way is to install via Firadisk on USB stick to harddisk Dietmar PS: You have a message. Edited December 28, 2022 by Dietmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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