D.Draker Posted February 13, 2022 Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Hello , I'm just curious , why Windows 7 still in the current OS list ? While Vista in the "older" ! Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020 (more than two years ago!) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962 In the meantime, Windows Server 2008 (based on Vista) still gets extended rollup packs and they work for ordinary Vista too ! (that's of course if you have a licence) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/february-8-2022-kb5010384-monthly-rollup-44eacd6e-d5bb-43d3-9ac1-0757e588c3a6 Seems to be unfair , don't you think ? I'm pretty sure the ESU licence could be bought for Server R2 too , but that places the two OS in the exact same spot ! Be it "older" or "current" . EDIT: I think it's the question for the supervisors. I'm curious what @Tripredacus thinks about it . Edited February 13, 2022 by D.Draker
Tripredacus Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. 4
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Tripredacus said: The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. also windows 7 usage is huge in comparison to vista/server 2008. Windows 7 still receives newest chrome updates, steam. Got support from microsoft by backporting d3d12 libraries etc.. 1
sunryze Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Yeah, Windows 7 is still considered a major operating system right now. It may not be supported, but there are still a lot of computers out there on 7. Not as much as 10/11 in the personal world, but commonly businesses and Embedded devices especially. Doesn't top how many Linux powered devices there are though. Linux-based things rule every market except the personal desktop space. 1
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: Got support from microsoft by backporting d3d12 libraries etc.. And do you have a link to that microsoft update , thanks.
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Tonny52 said: Yeah, Windows 7 is still considered a major operating system right now. It may not be supported, but there are still a lot of computers out there on 7. Not as much as 10/11 in the personal world, but commonly businesses and Embedded devices especially. Doesn't top how many Linux powered devices there are though. Linux-based things rule every market except the personal desktop space. Still doesn't answer my question . Judging by this logic (amount of users and PCs), Win 8 , 11 and perhaps 10 too should be moved to the "others" section . Yet they are on TOP.
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Tripredacus said: The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. I see , thanks . And what about Windows 8 then ? Two and a half users , yet in the Top charts. Windows 8 market share is at 0.18% (way below Vista) .
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: And do you have a link to that microsoft update , thanks. it is not windows update. It is called d3d12on7 and can be implemented by any game developer 1
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: Windows 8 market share is at 0.18% (way below Vista) . 8.1 exists. it has around 4% of marketshare 1
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: it is not windows update. It is called d3d12on7 and can be implemented by any game developer You wrote "support from microsoft" , implying it's official , now you're saying could be "implemented by any game developer". So there's nothing then , just like I thought. In terms of DirectX level , Vista = Windows 7 (Both DirectX 11).
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: 8.1 exists. it has around 4% of marketshare In 2013 ? Maybe . But now it's : Win8.1: 2.94 % Win11: 2.43 % WinXP: 0.49 % ... https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide/
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, D.Draker said: You wrote "support from microsoft" , implying it's official , now you're saying could be "implemented by any game developer". So there's nothing then , just like I thought. In terms of DirectX level , Vista = Windows 7 (Both DirectX 11). you should do your research before saying that. IT IS official. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/samples/microsoft/directx-graphics-samples/d3d12-12-on-7-sample-win32/ 1
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Tripredacus said: Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. As of lately , seems this is the top one . https://msfn.org/board/topic/178377-on-decommissioning-of-update-servers-for-2000-xp-and-vista-as-of-july-2019/
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: you should do your research before saying that. IT IS official. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/samples/microsoft/directx-graphics-samples/d3d12-12-on-7-sample-win32/ Well , I asked you . I have no reason not to trust you . Yet what you say is NOT implemented yet . I mean , there is nothing for us , ordinary customers . (no update packages , no such "games" , nothing). Just articles , empty promises and rumours. Don't you remember the twenty-years-long story about DX10/11 being ported to XP ? LOL !
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, D.Draker said: Well , I asked you . I have no reason not to trust you . Yet what you say is NOT implemented yet . I mean , there is nothing for us , ordinary customers . (no update packages , no such "games" , nothing). Just articles , empty promises and rumours. Don't you remember the twenty-years-long story about DX10/11 being ported to XP ? LOL ! cyberpunk implemented it, red dead redemption 2 etc.. it is being utilized 1
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