StartAllBack for Windows 11

[dacrone]

10 hours ago, Uiti P. Uszer said:

I was wondering if possibility the capability may be added to SAB to export & import your SAB settings list. That would be great not have to manually configure SAB on other computers.

backup registry 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\StartIsBack

and

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\StartIsBack

[Tihiy]

18 hours ago, A Warthog said:

Updating any Microsoft Store app results in a broken icon in the taskbar when launching

That's improbable; those icons have three layers of fallbacks. Do you experience blank icons in other parts of shell?

18 hours ago, A Warthog said:

Sometimes, the app will disappear from the taskbar (even after restarting File Explorer) until brought back into focus manually

Modern apps which are not really launched are not displayed. But UWP is dead who cares? I'm not aware of any major scenario where app launches hidden and should be on taskbar.

[A Warthog]

On 2/5/2025 at 10:59 AM, Tihiy said:

That's improbable; those icons have three layers of fallbacks. Do you experience blank icons in other parts of shell?

This is the only scenario under which I experience blank icons in shell, and this behavior is consistent across all of my computers running StartAllBack. I can try to get a screen capture of it when I'm home over the weekend.

On 2/5/2025 at 10:59 AM, Tihiy said:

Modern apps which are not really launched are not displayed. But UWP is dead who cares? I'm not aware of any major scenario where app launches hidden and should be on taskbar.

This scenario only seems to happen with applications that can update and relaunch themselves afterwards (i.e. Microsoft Store and Microsoft Teams). It tends to happen if I restart File Explorer before interacting the with relaunched window (i.e. to fix other update Windows Store app icons). It's a very niche scenario, I will admit...

[Tihiy]

3 hours ago, A Warthog said:

This is the only scenario under which I experience blank icons in shell, and this behavior is consistent across all of my computers running StartAllBack

No need, I found the case - if you use native start menu, cache does not get updated properly. Will fix others too

Edited February 6 by Tihiy

[A Warthog]

@Tihiy

Found one more app that exhibits odd behavior on the new taskbar, similar to iCUE. The new NVIDIA app tends to remain on the taskbar after the main window is closed about 50% of the time, usually showing just an icon with no label (normally says NVIDIA). It will disappear if left clicked on or if you right click → close.

 

[Tihiy]

53 minutes ago, A Warthog said:

The new NVIDIA app tends to remain on the taskbar after the main window is closed

Please test https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe

[A Warthog]

1 hour ago, Tihiy said:

Please test https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe

I can confirm that the issues with broken icons on Microsoft Store apps and the iCUE pop-up issue are both resolved. Good stuff!

The issue with the NVIDIA app that I reported earlier today persists, so seems the fixes for the prior issues didn't resolve this one.

[Tihiy]

No idea how to reproduce NVIDIA issue. Maybe your system is overloaded with crappy apps like iCUE and NVIDIA

[User77111]

A suggestion to make this line more visible? Maybe darken the entire selection highlight to match the window 11 taskbar selection?

 

Could we also get the start button colors (a bit darker blue) to match better with the light and dark mode? Like the original windows 11 one?

[Alex K]

Anyone struggling with animations while hovering over an opened app taskbar icon? I wish there wasn't any kind of animation but just a plain appearance of app windows thumbnails, just like in stock windows. I couldn't find any registry tweak to do that, and I remember that before a specific StartAllBack version there wasn't such animation. After updating from likely 3.6.* version to 3.9.* there are now animations when you hover over an opened app icon in taskbar and it's sooo disturbing to me as thumbnails are appearing very slowly. It slows down my productivity drastically and I wish there was a workaround to turn off any kind of such animation. Any advice will be much appreciated. Hope I'm not the only one who has struggled with those irritating animations.

[Tihiy]

56 minutes ago, Alex K said:

Anyone struggling with animations while hovering over an opened app taskbar icon? I wish there wasn't any kind of animation but just a plain appearance of app windows thumbnails, just like in stock windows.

That's like the most insulting take ever. Out of perverted use cases, OCD and BPD frequents here you've frustrated my precious little animation the most. 

56 minutes ago, Alex K said:

I remember that before a specific StartAllBack version there wasn't such animation

That's not correct.

 

Disable taskbar animations in SystemPropertiesPerformance:

Edited February 9 by Tihiy

[Alex K]

28 minutes ago, Tihiy said:

That's like the most insulting take ever. Out of perverted use cases, OCD and BPD frequents here you've frustrated my precious little animation the most. 

That's not correct.

 

Disable taskbar animations in SystemPropertiesPerformance:

Thank you for digging into the issue! In fact, it really turn that kind of animation off, along with all other animations, but then I discovered that there's still that super irritating interval between the moment after you hover your mouse pointer over an app running and the moment its thumbnails section appears. Eventually, it seems that it wasn't the animation itself what has been disturbing, it is the delay of thumbnail section appearance in general. Is there any way to adjust it? It seems that actually this is something rather the whole os-related than just StartAllBack app itself.

And regarding my take that was insulting for you - sometimes it is a bit difficult to clearly understand what really disturbs you in a particular case. And in this case it was a super irritating delay of the thumbnails' appearance. And what I'm looking for now is how to minimize this delay that slows down my workflow.

Edited February 9 by Alex K

[Mikaelo]

36 minutes ago, Alex K said:

Thank you for digging into the issue! In fact, it really turn that kind of animation off, along with all other animations, but then I discovered that there's still that super irritating interval between the moment after you hover your mouse pointer over an app running and the moment its thumbnails section appears. Eventually, it seems that it wasn't the animation itself what has been disturbing, it is the delay of thumbnail section appearance in general. Is there any way to adjust it? It seems that actually this is something rather the whole os-related than just StartAllBack app itself.

And regarding my take that was insulting for you - sometimes it is a bit difficult to clearly understand what really disturbs you in a particular case. And in this case it was a super irritating delay of the thumbnails' appearance. And what I'm looking for now is how to minimize this delay that slows down my workflow.

Do you mean something like this?
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/21005-change-delay-time-show-taskbar-thumbnails-windows-10-a.html

[Alex K]

52 minutes ago, Mikaelo said:

Do you mean something like this?
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/21005-change-delay-time-show-taskbar-thumbnails-windows-10-a.html

That was definitely the culprit, thank you! For some reason, the default value was too long for me and caused sort of distraction. Now that I've changed the parameter it feels way smoother, I see thumbnails instantly, and that's exactly what I needed. In case anyone may be interested: I set my value to 15 ms. For me that's a comfortable option. 

I left StartAllBack 'precious little animation' on, by the way. Nevertheless, it feels good to know how and where I can disable the animations any time I might need that.

StartAllBack is something that really helps. I tried Start11 as well, and that one couldn't even maintain correct spacing between tray icons on a two-monitor setup with 2k laptop screen and Full HD AOC monitor, and it looked just awful.

Edited February 9 by Alex K

[是LinJie呀]

我想知道“托盘图标”的增强模式能不能增加一个开关，因为他和我使用的“MyDockFinder”有冲突，所有能不能给他也加一个开关

I would like to know if it's possible to add a toggle for the 'enhanced mode' of the tray icon, as it conflicts with the 'MyDockFinder' I am using. Could you please add a switch for it?

Я хотел бы узнать, можно ли добавить переключатель для 'расширенного режима' значка в трее, так как он конфликтует с 'MyDockFinder', который я использую. Не могли бы вы добавить для него переключатель?