X99 board without PCI slot, PCI-E only, almost no HW device detection after PCI bus device addition - dead end? PCI is working, but..

[LoneCrusader]

4 hours ago, ragnargd said:

When trying to download the drivers for the Soundcard from some "Dynamode" site, to see if it's actually a w9x-compatible driver, i caught a version where the readme.txt is actually an executable. Thank god i was using linux, so it just crashed because of lack of rights and wrong platform...   ... Never let your guard down... (now, again, something to sink my forensic-teeth into...).

 

1 hour ago, ragnargd said:

The soundcard... well, if LoneCrusader said it's fine, it is fine. The page where i found the driver is definitely fishy... or was pwned (just more likely). Just why someone put a trojan into a driver of such an obscure item, that goes just beyond me. On the other side, he had a near-hit with me...

 

1 hour ago, ragnargd said:

For the soundcard, i think drivers will either be on an accompanying disk, or can be acquired directly from CMedia.

Ouch. Looks like you can never be too careful.
I used the driver CD that comes with the card. If need be I can upload the driver somewhere.
rloew mentioned a PCI card using this chipset to me before. The driver should be usable with a PCI-E version.

[98SE]

1 hour ago, LoneCrusader said:

 

 

Ouch. Looks like you can never be too careful.
I used the driver CD that comes with the card. If need be I can upload the driver somewhere.
rloew mentioned a PCI card using this chipset to me before. The driver should be usable with a PCI-E version.

Do you have a confirmed link matching the driver from the CD that came with the sound card matching on the C-media site?  I don't think the main site carries the 9X/ME drivers anymore or maybe I missed it.

IS this SoundWave 5.1 PCI 9X/ME driver compatible?  Photo shows a PCI card.

SoundWave 5.1 PCI

IC-510012-S2

http://www.siig.com/download/search/?keyword=IC-510012-S2

Hardware Version: 1

VXD http://www.siig.com/media/files/drivers/0005/sw51_95-me_v1.1.exe

WDM: http://www.siig.com/media/files/drivers/0005/sw51_xp-2003_v1.1.exe

Edited August 20, 2017 by 98SE

[ragnargd]

LoneCrusader, as well as the Trader, say/show a PCIe card. Technically, it's perfectly doable, so i'm waiting. I'll report.

[ruthan]

16 hours ago, rloew said:

Run the attached Program from DOS. Post the results.

SCANPCI.EXE

 Here is log:

 0  0  0:  8086:2f00 1462:7885 0600 00  02 
 0  1  0:  8086:2f02 0000:0000 0604 00  02 
 0  3  0:  8086:2f08 0000:0000 0604 00  02 
 0  5  0:  8086:2f28 1462:7885 0880 00  02 
 0  5  1:  8086:2f29 1462:7885 0880 00  02 
 0  5  2:  8086:2f2a 1462:7885 0880 00  02 
 0  5  4:  8086:2f2c 1462:7885 0800 20  02 
 0 17  0:  8086:8d7c 1462:7885 ff00 00  05 
 0 20  0:  8086:8d31 1462:7885 0c03 30  05 
 0 22  0:  8086:8d3a 1462:7885 0780 00  05 
 0 25  0:  8086:15a1 1462:7885 0200 00  05 
 0 26  0:  8086:8d2d 1462:7885 0c03 20  05 
 0 27  0:  8086:8d20 1462:d885 0403 00  05 
 0 28  0:  8086:8d10 0000:0000 0604 00  d5 
 0 28  3:  8086:8d16 0000:0000 0604 00  d5 
 0 28  4:  8086:8d18 0000:0000 0604 00  d5 
 0 29  0:  8086:8d26 1462:7885 0c03 20  05 
 0 31  0:  8086:8d47 1462:7885 0601 00  05 
 0 31  2:  8086:8d02 1462:7885 0106 01  05 
 0 31  3:  8086:8d22 1462:7885 0c05 00  05 
 2  0  0:  10de:0295 1462:0663 0300 00  a1 
 4  0  0:  1106:3483 1462:7885 0c03 30  01 
 5  0  0:  1b21:1142 1462:7885 0c03 30  00 

No more its whole, created trough scanpci.txt  > Log.txt i hope that it is ok.

[rloew]

These are all standard PCI objects. They should all be detected by PCI Bus.

Your Hard Drive Controller is set to AHCI.
I see two USB2 Controllers, a Video Card, and 7 Bridges that should be recognized.
There are a lot of items that will be reported as Unknown.

[ruthan]

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Your Hard Drive Controller is set to AHCI.

  Its only second not used controller, i was just trying AHCI patch, i will write details to our patches thread.  Mistake only 1 controller.

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I see two USB2 Controllers, a Video Card, and 7 Bridges that should be recognized.
There are a lot of items that will be reported as Unknown.

 So explain me why they arent recognized and i did at least 2 installations, so no some cosmic error, i also did hardware tree removal a redetection multiple times..

Edited August 26, 2017 by ruthan

[rloew]

I only see one PCI/PCI-E Hard Disk Controller in your list. I see no IDE Mode Controllers anywhere.

The USB 2 Controllers will not be recognized by standard Windows 9x, you need to add the USB 2 Drivers first.
The Video Card would show up as standard VGA.
The Bridges should be visible as is.

If the Bridges are appearing with errors. let us know what the Error is.

[ruthan]

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I only see one PCI/PCI-E Hard Disk Controller in your list. I see no IDE Mode Controllers anywhere.

   Oh sorry too many machines, only 1 here, but i device manager i none, i never managed to detect it.

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The USB 2 Controllers will not be recognized by standard Windows 9x, you need to add the USB 2 Drivers first.
The Video Card would show up as standard VGA.
The Bridges should be visible as is.

  I never saw any device errors on this board, only "clean" device tree, if is not detected it cant report errors, no USB at all is correct..

   Standart VGA is detected ok.
  Brigdes you can check pictures above only generic ones, no PCI BUS etc..

Edited August 21, 2017 by ruthan

[LoneCrusader]

9 hours ago, 98SE said:

Do you have a confirmed link matching the driver from the CD that came with the sound card matching on the C-media site?  I don't think the main site carries the 9X/ME drivers anymore or maybe I missed it.

IS this SoundWave 5.1 PCI 9X/ME driver compatible?  Photo shows a PCI card.

Don't confuse the SIIG card that I linked that uses the same chipset with the PCI-E card I linked before on eBay. They are not the same. I only said they have the same chipset so they should work with the same driver.

8 hours ago, ragnargd said:

LoneCrusader, as well as the Trader, say/show a PCIe card. Technically, it's perfectly doable, so i'm waiting. I'll report.

Miscommunication created somehow above. The one on eBay is definitely PCI-E.

[LoneCrusader]

I split the posts concerning the X99 system from the Compatible Hardware thread and put them in this thread where they make more sense.

The Compatible Hardware thread is meant to be for confirmed hardware, not hardware under experimentation.

Let's try to keep on topic in different threads.

[rloew]

You won't see the Hard Disk Controller without using the SATA Patch and the ATA0106.INF File.

There are no USB 1 Controllers, so you will not see any USB Devices until you add the USB 2 Drivers. Older systems had shared USB 1 and USB 2 Ports, newer ones don't.

Did it say "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" or "Standard VGA Display Adapter" or both?

How many Bridges do you see?

[ruthan]

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You won't see the Hard Disk Controller without using the SATA Patch and the ATA0106.INF File.

   Ok, thanks.

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Did it say "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" or "Standard VGA Display Adapter" or both?

  One card but its typical even on other boards, during installation is added Standart VGA adapter and after is detected PCI Graphics Adapter - first device could be removed.

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How many Bridges do you see?

    Few minutes ago, its starting to detected devices.. But analysis why would be complicated for know..
  I just migrated some storages (SATA II SSD for other experiments finally arrived ) so i just for fun tried boot AMD970 install on X99 and its detecting new hardware new.. 
  I have new BIOS, because i have still 9xx MB RAM in all available OS i have received some beta Bios which had to fix it, it didnt but other this changed too.
  I have copied LoneCrusaders inf files.. and got detection right after boot.. 

     I will try my "proper " debugging 8GB SD card storage with clean install to verify where was a difference later..

Update: I even Geforce 7950GT finally started working, just detected and its running at least for 1st reboot..

Edited August 23, 2017 by ruthan

[rloew]

Mixing systems again.
Don't expect me to debug it "just for fun".

[ruthan]

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Mixing systems again.
Don't expect me to debug it "just for fun".

  I wrote that i tried it, before i will continue to use proper installation.. It was worth of try and was right it proved that it can somehow work. This machines is just for have to some between between suffering to make other machines to work with you patches, im sick of it and i not gave up.

but feel that i should now return you something acidic and write something about quality of your patches, but i will almost silent for now, i invested quite time to proof that clean system is not solution for lots of problems and patches use had lots of catches and hooks.. and its not about other cheap arguments like bad memory, bad storage etc..

Edited August 23, 2017 by ruthan

[ruthan]

Update:
- it wasnt Bios thing
- infs not helped detection too
- so use existing installation was best thing which i could to do, otherwise i would simply say that this board is no go

  What is else on existing installation, it could be USP3 or something else. I have tried to install USP3, but i cant because of USP3 is using command.com and it means - black screen on my Geforce 7950GT, i have to try other GPU..