wyxchari Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, ivanbuto said: Is anyone facing a problem with a never-ending "checking for update" status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanbuto Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, wyxchari said: So do I understand correctly that after installing KB4052978 manually, Windows (Microsoft) Update will work again and give me results of the update check? What exactly happened that the update check doesn't finish, when a few months ago it worked? In your post, you wrote that "updates this month take a long time", from this sentence it is not clear whether in your case the update check actually finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyxchari Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ivanbuto said: So do I understand correctly that after installing KB4052978 manually, Windows (Microsoft) Update will work again and give me results of the update check? What exactly happened that the update check doesn't finish, when a few months ago it worked? In your post, you wrote that "updates this month take a long time", from this sentence it is not clear whether in your case the update check actually finished. - Yes. - I do not know why it fails. I always update with Internet Explorer and Microsoft Update. When one month I see that it takes more than 3 hours to finish, I manually download IE8 update of that month from the catalog, I install it, I look for updates again and then in about 5 minutes it finishes and shows the rest of the updates. Remember that this month's the updates come out today (Tuesday). Maybe you should wait until they leave to finish updating and not repeat it 2 times. Edited January 9, 2018 by wyxchari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The catalog shows 3 Framework updates are available. My MU has been running for a while now and hasn't picked them up yet. I'll let it run a good portion of the day just to see what happens. If nothing by the EOD, I'll just manually download them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyxchari Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) If it does not end in 3 hours, I will manually install the 2 Office compatibility updates and search again. Edited January 9, 2018 by wyxchari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Horror Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, ivanbuto said: What exactly happened that the update check doesn't finish, when a few months ago it worked? I have a theory about this: any update that replace 29 or more previous updates cause a serious delay in WU/MU update routine. For now, any new IE8 cumulative update and some of office updates are subject to the bug. I call them "troublesome updates". 9 hours ago, ivanbuto said: In your post, you wrote that "updates this month take a long time", from this sentence it is not clear whether in your case the update check actually finished. I am unsure if a "troublesome update" search on WU/MU website via Internet Explorer may be really finished. One time i wait more than a day w/o positive result. The search via automatic update service (known as "yellow shield in system tray") is more effective, but also very long. For a single "troublesome update" it may take from 1.5 hour to more than a day, depending of PC parameters. In any case the search consume one CPU core for all that time. 9 hours ago, ivanbuto said: So do I understand correctly that after installing KB4052978 manually, Windows (Microsoft) Update will work again and give me results of the update check? It depends of MS software and patches you have installed. Your system may require more "troublesome updates" than just KB4052978. Edited January 9, 2018 by Yellow Horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bersaglio Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Direct links for January 2018 updates: .NET Framework 2.0SP2-3.0SP2-4.0, Office 2007 Compatibility Pack, Office 2007 Suites. http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/01/NDP20SP2-KB4054178-x86_C0D933409D0128AD7DF07C0EAF71AE01F49C48C3.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/01/NDP30SP2-KB4055229-x86_45C6C6C58DE4C40A6AB5C31CCA4C685E289493AD.exe http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/01/NDP40-KB4054173-x86_A223C7D77B86086E3FD412E816EDC47E31458F96.exe http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/F/1/6F1A5B9A-ED3B-4C63-BDDA-26D762C51A37/wordconv2007-kb4011607-fullfile-x86-glb.exe http://download.microsoft.com/download/D/4/B/D4B3FAE6-FC50-4366-A631-07F7652433FC/xlconv2007-kb4011605-fullfile-x86-glb.exe http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/C/6/AC6D693D-2508-426F-B159-D9888814C26D/mso2007-kb4011201-fullfile-x86-glb.exe 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SD73 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On a fluke I checked the Office 2003 catalog and there's one there for us older users too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bersaglio Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, SD73 said: On a fluke I checked the Office 2003 catalog and there's one there for us older users too. This update (KB4011641) can be installed only over (still supported until April 2018) WordViewer application and useless for Office 2003 users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thanks for the head-up, Bersaglio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyxchari Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) After manually installing the 2 updates of the Office compatibility package (wordconv2007-kb4011607-fullfile-x86-glb.exe and xlconv2007-kb4011605-fullfile-x86-glb.exe), when searching again it shows in 4 minutes: Edited January 9, 2018 by wyxchari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Horror Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 KB4011607 replace 33 of previous updates. KB4011201 replace only 20 of previous updates. KB4011605 replace exactly 29 of previous updates. Its predecessor was KB4011205, that was released in November 2017 and replace 28 of previous updates. Did it cause a delay in updating at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyxchari Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yellow Horror said: Did it cause a delay in updating at the time? Since October 2017, it is usual to update hours and hours, such as 8h, 12h and in November 2017, even days. I always manually install the IE8 and the 2 Office compatibility. For the rest I use WU/MU and it takes very little. Edited January 9, 2018 by wyxchari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnz Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Thanks to experts here, it all makes sense. Subject to anyone pulling me back from edge of cliff, on my XP with Office 2003 and (for the moment) trouble-causing Avast, I shall be installing only: First, manually: Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4052978) Then, using the shield or MU: 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 4 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054173) 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 2.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054178) 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 3.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4055229) NOT INSTALLING YET (due to Avast file-copy problems clarified by heinoganda): KB4056615 and KB4056941 Nothing to install for the Office 2003 But ... I wouldn't MIND if everyone else went FIRST and let me know if it's ... safe. HEY - does the Avast annoyance interfere with the good updates (my first four above)? Heinoganda - what do you think? Edited January 9, 2018 by glnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, glnz said: Thanks to experts here, it all makes sense. Subject to anyone pulling me back from edge of cliff, on my XP with Office 2003 and (for the moment) trouble-causing Avast, I shall be installing only: First, manually: Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4052978) Then, using the shield or MU: 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 4 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054173) 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 2.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054178) 2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 3.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4055229) NOT INSTALLING YET (due to Avast file-copy problems clarified by heinoganda): KB4056615 and KB4056941 Nothing to install for the Office 2003 But ... I wouldn't MIND if everyone else went FIRST and let me know if it's ... safe. HEY - does the Avast annoyance interfere with the good updates (my first four above)? Heinoganda - what do you think? I got tired of waiting for MU. I waited a respectful 8 hours out of courtesy for it to do it's thing and I lost patience. Anyway, I manually installed the 3 .Net updates and nothing else. The first 2 took about 5 or so minutes each. The last one took probably about 20 minutes, but no problems to report and it rebooted fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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