PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) I installed Service Pack 3 on a Dell Latitude C610, which has a Crystal sound card. After installing the service pack I lose sound.Under device manager I get the following error message, The NTKERN.VXD, MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for this device could not load the device driver (Code 2)I have a Canon USB printer which had been working perfectly. I downloaded and installed the Unofficial Service Pack updates. When I restarted, I got a "new hardware" window and it wanted to install the printer. I said okay and it went through the motions. However, the printer wouldn't work. I uninstalled the printer from the device manager and the software from add/remove programs. I reinstalled the drivers, turned the printer on, new device recognized, but when it went to make a connection, none was made. I went into device manager, found the reliable yellow problem marker, clicked on properties and got a "NTKERN.VXD" could not load driver" message. I have tried everything out there including reloading windows 98SE. To no avail. Any advice?Although this was related to the earlier service packs, I am having a similar problem, only it is not USB related. Deleting drivers, etc is not working. Edited May 8, 2012 by PROBLEMCHYLD
submix8c Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Hmmm - same problem but no solution given.Searching...edit - Got a "chipset" value to search on? ARRG!!! NM... it's a Laptop... Can you find the Ven/Dev in the Registry? (may help...)edit2 - found the specsAudioAudio Type – AC97 (Soft Audio)Audio controller – ICH3, Cirrus Logic SC4205...and I believe this actually should be "CS4205" (a misprint?)Try here (and have no clue what you already have installed...) Edited May 8, 2012 by submix8c
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 Thanks for helping. I already have Crystal CS4205 v.6.13.10.4159 installed. Everything works fine until I install any version of the Service Pack. Crystal CS4205 v.6.13.10.4159 drivers are the ones that came with the system. Once I install SP then I lose sound and get the ntkern.vxd error.
LoneCrusader Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 I have a feeling this is an example of where the "latest" available files may not necessarily be the "best" available files. See this quote from MDGx regarding Q242937 / 269601USA8.EXE:Microsoft Windows 98 SE WDM/USB Audio Driver WDMAUD.DRV 4.10.2223, KMIXER.SYS 4.10.2223, PORTCLS.SYS 4.10.2223, SBEMUL.SYS 4.10.2223, SYSAUDIO.SYS 4.10.2223, USBAUDIO.SYS 4.10.2224 + WDMAUD.SYS 4.10.2226 Fix:Direct download [374 KB, English].MUST install current Drivers for your particular WDM/USB Audio device BEFORE installing this Fix!Example:Crystal sound cards require Driver 6.13.10.4140. OLDer ones do NOT work!I'll wager that you have included that HotFix in your USP. Try rolling back the versions of those files to the 98SE originals.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 I have a feeling this is an example of where the "latest" available files may not necessarily be the "best" available files. You are right, but it only causes problems with Crystal Sound Cards.I'll wager that you have included that HotFix in your USP. Try rolling back the versions of those files to the 98SE originals.I have replaced the files below with the original Win98SE files and my sound is back.KMIXER.SYS 4.10.2223PORTCLS.SYS 4.10.2223SBEMUL.SYS 4.10.2223SYSAUDIO.SYS 4.10.2223WDMAUD.DRV 4.10.2223WDMAUD.SYS 4.10.2226 Some people recommend using CWAWDM.SYS 6.13.10.4140, but since neither CWAWDM.SYS 6.13.10.4140/6.13.10.4159works with the newer .SYS files, I think I'll stick with V6.13.10.4159. Thank you very much LoneCrusader/submix8c
LoneCrusader Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 You are right, but it only causes problems with Crystal Sound Cards.I have replaced the files below with the original Win98SE files and my sound is back.KMIXER.SYS 4.10.2223PORTCLS.SYS 4.10.2223SBEMUL.SYS 4.10.2223SYSAUDIO.SYS 4.10.2223WDMAUD.DRV 4.10.2223WDMAUD.SYS 4.10.2226 Some people recommend using CWAWDM.SYS 6.13.10.4140, but since neither CWAWDM.SYS 6.13.10.4140/6.13.10.4159works with the newer .SYS files, I think I'll stick with V6.13.10.4159. Thank you very much LoneCrusader/submix8cNo problem, glad you have solved the issue. Did you happen to test whether or not a specific one of those files causes this, or did you just replace them all at once?I actually need to try and find a system to run some tests of my own on this scenario. I went ahead and slipstreamed those files in my slipstream project, but I hadn't had any issues as I don't have that particular hardware.I wonder, if this issue only presents itself if you UPDATE the files, or whether it still surfaces if those files were ALREADY present when the driver was first installed...
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 Did you happen to test whether or not a specific one of those files causes this, or did you just replace them all at once?Yes, tested every single file. You must replace all files because they coincide with each other.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 I bet the poster tcobb64, that was having USB problemsif replacing USBAUDIO.SYS with the original, all would be fine. I will add notice in 3.1.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 10, 2012 Author Posted May 10, 2012 I wonder, if this issue only presents itself if you UPDATE the files, or whether it still surfaces if those files were ALREADY present when the driver was first installed... I did a clean install, installed all the drivers except the sound card. Then I installed SP3, and then the sound card.Everything worked fine. No need to downgrade the files now. Thank you sooo mucccccccch LoneCrusader
LoneCrusader Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I did a clean install, installed all the drivers except the sound card. Then I installed SP3, and then the sound card.Everything worked fine. No need to downgrade the files now. Thank you sooo mucccccccch LoneCrusader Wow... I was just shooting in the dark with that. Almost didn't post it, I figured people would think it most illogical. Anyhow, you're welcome!
bphlpt Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I guess that's kind of the same concept as removing all the USB devices and installing them back one at a time once all the updated files are in place. Seems to make sense if you think about it that way.Cheers and Regards
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 WinME version of the files (DOES NOT) work
erpdude8 Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 WinME version of the files (DOES NOT) work don't use them on 98se. the ME versions of the six SYS/DRV files you mentioned earlier aren't compatible with win98se and won't resolve your problem.
PROBLEMCHYLD Posted July 24, 2012 Author Posted July 24, 2012 don't use them on 98se. the ME versions of the six SYS/DRV files you mentioned earlier aren't compatible with win98se and won't resolve your problem.Actually the WinME files does work, as they are of part of 98SE2ME. Those drivers works with other sound cards, just not with the Crystal SC.
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