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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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Hi Jaclaz

Finally I managed Unlocked two HDDs 320GB and 160GB .. But The two processes have the same problem, i receive the messagem: ((No Phy: Staggered spin bypass)) what is wrong

 
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The message "No Phy: Staggered Spin bypass" should have no relevance.

Now if you can recover your data, good :), then perform the Seagate tests, BOTH the Short and the Long ones, and if any of the two fail, the disk is no good (cannot and shouldn't be re-used).

jaclaz
 

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26 minutes ago, BSker said:

This post helped me a lot to repair my Seagate Barracuda ES.2 HDD which had BSY issue similar to 7200.11 series so I would like to tell you what I did. I followed instructions of this video

Unfortunatelly what is sugested in this post doens't work with ES.2 series HDDs so I decided to buy this tool which claims (and seems) to work with all Seagate SATA HDDs.

I have this feeling that you are *somehow* astroturfing. :w00t::ph34r: but I will pretend that there is somehow a language barrier instead. :unsure:

This thread (the WHOLE thread, not any single post in it) is NOT about the ES.2, but ONLY about the 7200.11, and rather obviously it didn't help you.

I will repeat, in case you failed to read that it is ONLY for the 7200.11. (this info is written EVERYWHERE)

There is another thread with some info about ES.2 drives, which you may have found, and of course the video is about a tool consisting in a few bucks worth USB to TTL adapter, a small piece of plastic and a crappy "user friendly" interface to terminal that these nice greek guys - in their simplicity - sell for a mere EUR 56.99 apiece, without specifying how it won't work with ES.2 drives, simply because you won't have access to terminal, unless you briefly short two pads on the PCB:
 

In a nutshell:

1) the procedures described in this thread are for 7200.11 ONLY (NOT ES.2)
2) the video is about a 7200.11 (NOT ES.2)

So, if you decided to buy that tool, but you haven't actually used it to attempt recovery of an ES.2 drive, WHY did you post here? :dubbio:

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So I just purchased http://www.ebay.com/itm/191972621801

I have a seagate stuck in the BSY mode. Now I'm attempting to do the loopback test however it isn't showing me any reply back for the RX at all. It's just blank. Would anyone have any suggestions would I'm doing wrong or missing here? I have the card stuck under the PCB just like the tutorial shows and everything but when it comes to the loopback test, it just doesn't want to co-operate.

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For the loopback test you don't even need a hard disk, what has the presence or not of the card under the PCB to do with it? :unsure:

The loopback test is made by connecting the Rx and Tx together and sending some data to the (virtual) COM port and see if these data is echoed back correctly in terminal, to make sure that the adapter and the setup is correct BEFORE even touching the hard disk.

It is a rare occasion (but it can happen) that the adapter is simply not working (DOA or Dead On Arrival), and as well even if the setup is usually very simple, it can happen that the device driver or however *soomething* in the OS is improperly set and makes it not functional. In your profile you state you are using a Windows 10, mybe that is part of the problem, ideally these instructions are (were) intended for a computer running XP (that has somehow a more direct/less complicated access to hardware) though it has also been used successfully with 7 (using a Terminal tool and - I believe - with no UAC and/or with Administrator credentials) so it may work fine in 10 or it may not. :dubbio:

jaclaz

 

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11 hours ago, jaclaz said:

For the loopback test you don't even need a hard disk, what has the presence or not of the card under the PCB to do with it? :unsure:

The loopback test is made by connecting the Rx and Tx together and sending some data to the (virtual) COM port and see if these data is echoed back correctly in terminal, to make sure that the adapter and the setup is correct BEFORE even touching the hard disk.

It is a rare occasion (but it can happen) that the adapter is simply not working (DOA or Dead On Arrival), and as well even if the setup is usually very simple, it can happen that the device driver or however *soomething* in the OS is improperly set and makes it not functional. In your profile you state you are using a Windows 10, mybe that is part of the problem, ideally these instructions are (were) intended for a computer running XP (that has somehow a more direct/less complicated access to hardware) though it has also been used successfully with 7 (using a Terminal tool and - I believe - with no UAC and/or with Administrator credentials) so it may work fine in 10 or it may not. :dubbio:

jaclaz

 

So good news on this front. I found a little jumper to connect the rx and tx, that worked just fine in the loopback test so it leads me to believe it's probably one of the wires that came with the kit that connects to the usb to ttl adapter to the hard drive jumper pins that's probably faulty. I have hope yet!

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Hi all,

i think i have now also this d*** bug with my 500 GB Seagate 7200.11 . As i recognized a blue screen (pc was on power the night) next day no sata detection for this drive. But i hear its working as normal with power.

Checked all with other pc and so on. Same behaviour. So last way for me is to check the BSY issue. I would purchase such adapters like you said.. but why are the pictures are not seen anymore for me?? It would be a great help as i am not really doing often such thinks. :)

So do you think its worth and someone can help me ?

Thanks and Regards

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4 hours ago, Cyberurmel said:

Hi all,

i think i have now also this d*** bug with my 500 GB Seagate 7200.11 . As i recognized a blue screen (pc was on power the night) next day no sata detection for this drive. But i hear its working as normal with power.

Checked all with other pc and so on. Same behaviour. So last way for me is to check the BSY issue. I would purchase such adapters like you said.. but why are the pictures are not seen anymore for me?? It would be a great help as i am not really doing often such thinks. :)

So do you think its worth and someone can help me ?

Thanks and Regards

Pictures were most probably hosted here and there and they are not available anymore, expired hosting or whatever :(.

But you can still read the READ ME FIRST and the FGA's (that never had images) and download the PDF (with images) of the guide by CarterinCanada:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/143880-seagate-barracuda-720011-read_me_first/

 

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/147532-fga-for-the-seagate-720011-drives/

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133387-debricking-the-seagate-drives/

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=38656

And don't worry, as long as your issue is one of the two we have some experience with, BSY or LBA0, it is not that difficult, and even if you find any difficulties, someone will try and help you with them.

jaclaz

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Hi Jaclaz ,

 thanks - i will read that content .. also i already purchased a usb stick to navigate in the HDD. (a  recommended one sure)

Hope i will get luck and it will let me have access to the data soon :)

greetings

Cyber

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Hi

My Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped working in 2009. I never tried to fix it until now.  I came across this forum and read up on the solutions, but I can't get past my first road block. I am running windows 10, and I purchased a FT232BM/BL Seagate barracuada 7200.11 firmware fix tool, complete usb from ebay

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First Road block:

My USB 3.0 to SATA Adapter Cable cannot power my HDD. I know it works because it powers my other HDDs

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Second Road Block:

USB 3.0 to SSD/2.5a Sata Dual Bay Hard Drive Docking Station can power my HDD but it's a docking station so it's impossible to connect the firmware fix tool.

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Please advise

Thanks

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Generally speaking, 10 it is not the best OS in the world to do this kind of things, for a number of reasons, that might become Road Block 0.

If you have (or can borrow from a friend) an old PC (desktop) you will go past all two three roadblocks in a whim, and also the possible fourth :w00t: one. that might be grounding problems if power comes from different power supplies (nothing particularly difficult, but a lot of people had issues in the past in grasping the concept of grounding).

I doubt that *any* USB 3.0 to SATA adapter can power *any* 3.5" SATA hard disks, they are made for 2.5" hard disks, you need a power supply with both 5 V and 12 V, the adapter you posted most probably is 5 V only.

If you have not access to a Desktop PC, get an el-cheapo USB 2.0 SATA/IDE to USB adapter with a power brick, such as (example):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-S-ATA-2-5-3-5-Hard-Drive-HD-HDD-Converter-Adapter-Cable-/131139498971

or get a USB SATA 3.5" case and use it temporarily.

jaclaz
 

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Thanks Jaclaz...just to make sure I understand you perfectly:

Desktop >Laptop (because I have a laptop)

Windowns XP > Windows 10 (What other OS can I use if I can't get a windows xp desktop?)

Am I right to assume that everyone is powering their HDD with their desktop power supply through sata cables?

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1 hour ago, jaclaz said:

Generally speaking, 10 it is not the best OS in the world to do this kind of things, for a number of reasons, that might become Road Block 0.

If you have (or can borrow from a friend) an old PC (desktop) you will go past all two three roadblocks in a whim, and also the possible fourth :w00t: one. that might be grounding problems if power comes from different power supplies (nothing particularly difficult, but a lot of people had issues in the past in grasping the concept of grounding).

I doubt that *any* USB 3.0 to SATA adapter can power *any* 3.5" SATA hard disks, they are made for 2.5" hard disks, you need a power supply with both 5 V and 12 V, the adapter you posted most probably is 5 V only.

If you have not access to a Desktop PC, get an el-cheapo USB 2.0 SATA/IDE to USB adapter with a power brick, such as (example):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-S-ATA-2-5-3-5-Hard-Drive-HD-HDD-Converter-Adapter-Cable-/131139498971

or get a USB SATA 3.5" case and use it temporarily.

jaclaz
 

Thanks Jaclaz...just to make sure I understand you perfectly:

Desktop >Laptop (because I have a laptop)

Windowns XP > Windows 10 (What other OS can I use if I can't get a windows xp desktop?)

Am I right to assume that everyone is powering their HDD with their desktop power supply through sata cables?

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Yes, you got it right.

The idea is that *any* desktop has (even temporarily) a free power connector for SATA devices with both the +5V and +12V rails and, if you use the same desktop for connecting (via the USB to TTL adapter) to the disk, ground will already be "in common" between all the devices (and if needed adding an additional ground to another unused IDE/Molex connector of the desktop PSU would be very straightforward) and XP already comes with a suitable "Terminal" program and all-in-all is "less picky" with the needed (USB to Virtual COM port) drvers, on later systems you will need Putty (or another similar terminal program) and possibly on 8 and later you will have issues with drivers signing, UAC, and what not.

Most people have a desktop and use its power supply, but as said you can use *any* suitable power supply, I used in the past one similar to the el-cheapo USB/SATA/IDE I posted a link, to, other people used just a spare desktop PSU they had lying around (you need to short two pins on the 20/24 connector to actually switch on an ATX PSU, green wire to *any* black one):
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-power-up-an-ATX-Power-Supply-without-a-PC/

but for all that matters you could use two power supplies, one giving 5V (1A) and another one giving 12 V (also 1A) or a set of batteries, the desktop (or desktop PSU) is just something that is easy to have around or borrow.

jaclaz 
 

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1 hour ago, jaclaz said:

Yes, you got it right.

The idea is that *any* desktop has (even temporarily) a free power connector for SATA devices with both the +5V and +12V rails and, if you use the same desktop for connecting (via the USB to TTL adapter) to the disk, ground will already be "in common" between all the devices (and if needed adding an additional ground to another unused IDE/Molex connector of the desktop PSU would be very straightforward) and XP already comes with a suitable "Terminal" program and all-in-all is "less picky" with the needed (USB to Virtual COM port) drvers, on later systems you will need Putty (or another similar terminal program) and possibly on 8 and later you will have issues with drivers signing, UAC, and what not.

Most people have a desktop and use its power supply, but as said you can use *any* suitable power supply, I used in the past one similar to the el-cheapo USB/SATA/IDE I posted a link, to, other people used just a spare desktop PSU they had lying around (you need to short two pins on the 20/24 connector to actually switch on an ATX PSU, green wire to *any* black one):
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-power-up-an-ATX-Power-Supply-without-a-PC/

but for all that matters you could use two power supplies, one giving 5V (1A) and another one giving 12 V (also 1A) or a set of batteries, the desktop (or desktop PSU) is just something that is easy to have around or borrow.

jaclaz 
 

Copy and thank you. I will try and get a desktop and give it a try.

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