About Vista SP1

[Chrno]

I've searched around the forums for any answer/solution, but didn't find any unless I accidentally searched els were.

I was wondering "if and when" MS was planning to release their "pre-integrated" SP1 Vista. I assume that we cannot expect it before Q3 or so. What I meant was like for example with XP SP2 being a release "candidate" in stores, as for Gold and SP1 were long gone replaced by SP2 "of course".

Now here's the main question:

When we can get our hands on this Vista release (with SP1 integrated), how will vLite work around this? I assume nuhi will make another release when the time comes. but as for those new, unless I heard wrong that only a minor (exluding numerous "junk" hotfixes being integrated within this Service Pack) updates, like performance upgrades and such. How will vLite work around this, when most hotfixes now gets integrated within the System itself, like for example IE updates and so on, when were supposed to be able to remove these. I know that this is almost actually the same case, like when SP1 came out for XP (before, you know when "we" had integrate it "manually")

But since Vista SP1 is the first, (unless I may have misread it) Service Pack what isn't slip-streamable, unless you reverse engineer it and go around the "other solution".

How will this work out?

But then again once SP1 becomes available through stores meaning that it's had it's public release (not the exeutable, but the one integrated into Vista, duh!) I assume nuhi and everyone who know what their best at, will figure out the rest or am I wrong?

[liquidguru]

When we can get our hands on this Vista release (with SP1 integrated)

Vista Business and Enterprise have already been released with SP1 integrated on the Volume Licensing program. Both were available at the same time as the released the SP1 stand-alone update.

As I couldn't just run the stand-alone SP1 update on my present vlited setup, I'm not sure I will vlite the integrated SP1, as I do not want to run into the same problem of being unable to install future Window Vista updates.

[Chrno]

When we can get our hands on this Vista release (with SP1 integrated)

Vista Business and Enterprise have already been released with SP1 integrated on the Volume Licensing program. Both were available at the same time as the released the SP1 stand-alone update.

As I couldn't just run the stand-alone SP1 update on my present vlited setup, I'm not sure I will vlite the integrated SP1, as I do not want to run into the same problem of being unable to install future Window Vista updates.

I see, thanks for the tip. Now we just gotta wait for Ultimate and perhaps nuhi might give us a chance to fiddle with it, once Ultimate with SP1 goes gold.

And since SP2 have been is or have been rumored to have the same problem as SP1 had, perhaps we might be able to skip that problem by not being able to update vLited Vista's with SP1.

I hope for the best.

Edited February 20, 2008 by Chrno

[Guest baturbo]

My understanding is that 6001.18000.080118-1840_x86fre_Client_en-us-FRMCFRE_EN_DVD.iso is the final Vista release with SP1 integrated. It has all versions included i.e. Ultimate, Premium, etc. I vLited this version for both my main PC and my HTPC and install with my legit product keys and (touch wood) have not had a problem.

[Mech0z]

Is SP1 officially out for buisness ? Because I am running Vista 32bit Buisness Eng.

[AlbertS2]

But since Vista SP1 is the first, (unless I may have misread it) Service Pack what isn't slip-streamable, unless you reverse engineer it and go around the "other solution".

This is not true it is slip-streamable like every other Service Pack wait a few days and you will see and i don't talk about reverse integration.

[cluberti]

This is not true it is slip-streamable like every other Service Pack wait a few days and you will see and i don't talk about reverse integration.

Ok, do explain - because Microsoft themselves say you can't slipstream the service pack to an offline image due to the fact that the service pack updates the servicing engine needed to slipstream service packs and updates...

You could reverse integrate it, or install Vista, SP1, and make a different install.wim, but I doubt that's what you mean.

[hclarkjr]

But since Vista SP1 is the first, (unless I may have misread it) Service Pack what isn't slip-streamable, unless you reverse engineer it and go around the "other solution".

This is not true it is slip-streamable like every other Service Pack wait a few days and you will see and i don't talk about reverse integration.

please provide proof of this

[AlbertS2]

please provide proof of this

I will in a few days maybe this weekend .

[sp00f]

Forget it

[Chrno]

My understanding is that 6001.18000.080118-1840_x86fre_Client_en-us-FRMCFRE_EN_DVD.iso is the final Vista release with SP1 integrated. It has all versions included i.e. Ultimate, Premium, etc. I vLited this version for both my main PC and my HTPC and install with my legit product keys and (touch wood) have not had a problem.

Now why would I want an "outdated" Vista for X86 architectures?

If you can't handle or can't afford new hardware, why not go back to XP, unless you only there for "new and improved" performance (barely) and security updates.

I'm just curious, not trying to be offending even if may have sounded like that.

Besides, I should have noted that I was only interested in the x64 architecture, not x86...

Edited February 21, 2008 by Chrno

[Guest baturbo]

Now why would I want an "outdated" Vista for X86 architectures?

If you can't handle or can't afford new hardware, why not go back to XP, unless you only there for "new and improved" performance (barely) and security updates.

I'm just curious, not trying to be offending even if may have sounded like that.

Besides, I should have noted that I was only interested in the x64 architecture, not x86...

For x64 I’m sure you can use the below and enter a valid key:

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My hardware is as follows:

HTPC -E6600, 4GB x DDR2800, Intel DG965OT MB, 2x 320GB and 8600GT

MainPC - E6550 @ 3.15Ghz, 4GB x DDR2, ASUS P5KR, 2 x 500GB and 8800 GTS 640MB

So from your comments above I can assume that, in your own eloquent way, you are suggesting that I should move to x64 architecture (also available in XP). Also that the x86 architecture is only for the those that can’t afford whatever system it is your talking about.

Please clarify your position on this.

Edited February 21, 2008 by cluberti
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[Breathless19]

please provide proof of this

I will in a few days maybe this weekend .

Whatever you may be working on, I just hope it will support X64

[cluberti]

For x64 I’m sure you can use the below and enter a valid key:

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Banned.

[Chrno]

I checked the local shop (were I work at) and another one which I frequently visit, and it seems that are no news about SP1.

So when can we exspect SP1 (x64) to be out on the market for everyone?

I know I didn't make myself self clear on the first post, but I'm eagerly waiting for this release so I can make another vLited version, apart from my Retail one.

But as it seems that people have or haven't gotten their hands on it, perhaps in the States? Or will this be some kind of worldwide release?

I will now bring up the question once more: Just how different will the SP1 (pre-integrated) be, compared to the Retail/OEM ones? Just how much will we be able to remove/tweak? Will it be the same, or will this be something completely different?